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Reform lost 6 by elections this week ๐ŸŽ‰

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TheRealSmurfette · 05/10/2026 03:38

Some good news to start the week!
The mainstream media might be quiet about it, but the numbers donโ€™t lie: Reform UK just lost SIX by-elections in a single week.

Their momentum is officially hitting a wall. On Thursday, they failed to win across the UK and even lost the incumbent seats they were supposed to defend:

  • Amble Ward (Northumberland) โ€” LOST (Gained by Labour)
  • Hirst Ward (Northumberland) โ€” LOST (Reclaimed by Labour)
  • Claremont Ward (Blackpool) โ€” LOST (Held by Labour)
  • Long Whatton & Diseworth Ward (NW Leicestershire) โ€” LOST (Held by Conservatives)
  • Wick & East Caithness Ward (Highland) โ€” LOST (Stormed by Lib Dems)
  • Forth & Endrick Ward (Stirling) โ€” LOST (Held by Conservatives) about:blank 1, 2]

The right-wing vote is splitting down the middle, squeezing them out in low-turnout battles. Proof that real, local communities are seeing through the rhetoric.

Keep it up lads! ๐Ÿ™Œ

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BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:49

Islamic terrorism accounts for 75% of MI5s active terrorism case load.

How on earth can you possibly know this?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/10/2026 20:49

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:46

Blair and Straw are yesterdayโ€™s men.

Righhhtโ€ฆbut theyโ€™re not extremists.

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:48

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:45

Islamic terrorism accounts for 75% of MI5s active terrorism case load

And that means Its not exactly right wing terrorism we need to be scared of?

MI5 thinks otherwise.

Both are a big worry

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/10/2026 20:48

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:44

Salisbury poisonings

You mean Putinโ€™s goons? That wasnโ€™t right-wing, it was left -wing, a nerve agent developed by the Soviets and deployed by ex-KGB men on the orders of an ex-KGB head of state.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:47

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:44

Salisbury poisonings

Islamic terrorism accounts for 75% of MI5s active terrorism case load.

Why are we clutching at the meagre straws of other types of terrorism out of interest? It seems to be on here for tribal reasons. Which is fine of course but seems to be not where the main issue lies.

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:46

Traveller1987 · 18/10/2026 20:46

So you don't have a clue about the subject at hand, but you mouth off anyway?

How rude.

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:46

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/10/2026 20:43

Yes. As would a far left government. But thatโ€™s not really the point.

Blair said he would suspend the application of articles of the ECHR domestically if they hindered anti-terrorist policy. And Jack Straw recently proposed change to neuter the HRA, said that the GRA did not rely on the ECHR and called Starmerโ€™s argument that the UK would be a pariah if it ditched the ECHR โ€œnonsensicalโ€. There is a moderate and respectable case for change.

The ECHR is really not the guarantor you think it is, and itโ€™s not extreme to want to reduce or remove its effect.

Blair and Straw are yesterdayโ€™s men.

Traveller1987 · 18/10/2026 20:46

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:45

Strangely I donโ€™t work for MI5 so the director general hasnโ€™t confided in me.

So you don't have a clue about the subject at hand, but you mouth off anyway?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:45

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:42

13 year old radicalised by online far right

Children chanting 'let them drown'

Islamic terrorism accounts for 75% of MI5s active terrorism case load

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:45

Traveller1987 · 18/10/2026 20:42

I was asking for specifics, you know, examples of right-wing attacks on UK soil. But there are none, so you're clutching at straws.

Can you name any Islamist terror attacks on UK soil?

Strangely I donโ€™t work for MI5 so the director general hasnโ€™t confided in me.

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:44

Salisbury poisonings

Traveller1987 · 18/10/2026 20:44

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:42

13 year old radicalised by online far right

Children chanting 'let them drown'

What on earth are you on about? Who have they killed, assaulted, beheaded, bombed or driven cars into?

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/10/2026 20:43

placemats · 18/10/2026 20:28

Do you not agree that a far right government would do everything in their power to diminish human rights?

Yes. As would a far left government. But thatโ€™s not really the point.

Blair said he would suspend the application of articles of the ECHR domestically if they hindered anti-terrorist policy. And Jack Straw recently proposed change to neuter the HRA, said that the GRA did not rely on the ECHR and called Starmerโ€™s argument that the UK would be a pariah if it ditched the ECHR โ€œnonsensicalโ€. There is a moderate and respectable case for change.

The ECHR is really not the guarantor you think it is, and itโ€™s not extreme to want to reduce or remove its effect.

TopPocketFind · 18/10/2026 20:42

13 year old radicalised by online far right

Children chanting 'let them drown'

Traveller1987 · 18/10/2026 20:42

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:02

Ask MI5. Theyโ€™re the experts.

I was asking for specifics, you know, examples of right-wing attacks on UK soil. But there are none, so you're clutching at straws.

Can you name any Islamist terror attacks on UK soil?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:35

placemats · 18/10/2026 20:32

Do you also not agree @Pineneedlesincarpet that 'scrapping' the ECHR would most certainly lead to a dissolving of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

No. The existence of the Union does not depend on the ECHR. Odd thing to worry about.

I do worry that Andy Bs devolution policy does threaten the union tbough. Thats far more causative.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:34

placemats · 18/10/2026 20:28

Do you not agree that a far right government would do everything in their power to diminish human rights?

No idea. Which party do you envisage in government to start off with?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:32

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:05

I expect someone will be along in a minute to throw shade on MI5.

Islamic terrorism accounts for 75% of MI5s active terrorism case load. So no...I dont throw shade at MI5 at all. Its not exactly right wing terrorism we need to be scared of

placemats · 18/10/2026 20:32

Do you also not agree @Pineneedlesincarpet that 'scrapping' the ECHR would most certainly lead to a dissolving of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland?

placemats · 18/10/2026 20:28

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:23

The rights in the HRA do not depend for their existence on the ECHR.

Do you not agree that a far right government would do everything in their power to diminish human rights?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:26

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 18:59

There were a lot of things we didnโ€™t have before the HRA. I donโ€™t much fancy going back to not having them.

Youre cleverer than this, Im sure.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:25

SubstandardMotelsOnTheLa · 18/10/2026 18:55

And we managed between 1951 and 2000 without the HRA

Did we? There were no abuses of human rights during that time?

They weren't enshrined in one law being the HRA obviously. But the law has developed perfectly adequately domestically over the years. We don't need to rely on the judgements of European judges.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/10/2026 20:23

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 18:59

There were a lot of things we didnโ€™t have before the HRA. I donโ€™t much fancy going back to not having them.

The rights in the HRA do not depend for their existence on the ECHR.

placemats · 18/10/2026 20:22

He knows only things he shares with, checks notes, Badenoch whose official title is LEADER OF THE OPPOSITION

BIossomtoes · 18/10/2026 20:17

pointythings · 18/10/2026 20:06

Absolutely. He's only an expert after all.

Yes, what does he know?

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