Will there be a General Election before 2027?

He doesn’t ever have to reconsider, he will cling on.

Yeah I knew he’d not take the risk too chicken shit. Too high a risk the public would boot them out. So not thank god for me,

So, Burnham has answered the original question for us.

My initial thoughts are that it’s the correct decision. However, if there a tax increases in the next budget, he might have to reconsider.

So, Burnham has answered the original question for us.

My initial thoughts are that it’s the correct decision. However, if there a tax increases in the next budget, he might have to reconsider.

Not sure. I was a remainer to the core but the thought of going through wrangling plus the euro issue isn’t looking that enticing.

Burnham said today that there will not be. Thank god for that.

And Starmer and Kwarteng, don't forget the men, it wasn't all on the women.

Although with the performances of Truss and Reeves in recent years putting key parts of our economic policy into the hands of the ECB would be quite appealing!

Not sure. I was a remainer to the core but the thought of going through wrangling plus the euro issue isn’t looking that enticing.

Good! I want Labour out and at least till the rest of my days.

But I'm less optimistic than you are. I'm a staunch Remainer. The middle class, SE/London home owners demographics tend to be Remainers and liberals as well.

So when faced a choice of a chance of joining EU vs yet another tax hit, this choice will be very difficult for many.
So I want you to be correct with your fcst, but let's see.

There isn’t too few of them and when they march they make their voices heard, home owners and older voters vote much more than younger people and renters. And Labour will lose a lot to reform.

id be very surprised if your prediction comes true, the polls right now say you’re wrong, and it’s unlikely to sway in favour of them.

We can’t just “rejoin next year” or in any particular year. We’d have to apply, be unanimously accepted and meet terms.

We have no idea whether all the EU countries would want us or what we’d have to do to join, or whether the country would accept those terms (like joining the Euro and being under the ECB for example).

I realise the government can theoretically take us back in without a referendum but in reality no government would do so if it thought it would be crucified in a GE afterwards, and the EU states wouldn’t want a reluctant or even back-out-again member.

This isn’t an anti-EU point of view - I voted remain - but a realistic one. If we’re ever to rejoin it will take many, many years and be a horrendous process both domestically and internationally.

He will.
He will declare tax reform in manifesto.

The issue is that majority of UK are net takers so will vote for this.

Review threads here a few months ago when there was speculation about replacing council tax with 0.48% property tax. Some of us were saying that studio flats in London will pay more than mansions with acres of land somewhere in e.g. Midlands - how cheerful people outside of SE were on these threads!

So Labour will get benefit street vote, bribe liberal lower middle class with EU promise. Then those higher earners who've been squeezed with income taxes for ages will now be hit by CGT and property taxes, but there are too few of them to make a difference in election. And Labour will get in for another five years and God help us.

ETA: my only hope is Zak getting in and AB being scared of left vote split, this might make him hold off

Think it would be foolish to call it, too risky. Labour should rejoin the EU next year and possibly the single currency. Not vote needed just get on with it and if Reform get in, they won't be able to cause any more damage.

Remember in two years Trump and his awful cabinet will be gone...that will change everything.

He will.
He will declare tax reform in manifesto.

The issue is that majority of UK are net takers so will vote for this.

Review threads here a few months ago when there was speculation about replacing council tax with 0.48% property tax. Some of us were saying that studio flats in London will pay more than mansions with acres of land somewhere in e.g. Midlands - how cheerful people outside of SE were on these threads!

So Labour will get benefit street vote, bribe liberal lower middle class with EU promise. Then those higher earners who've been squeezed with income taxes for ages will now be hit by CGT and property taxes, but there are too few of them to make a difference in election. And Labour will get in for another five years and God help us.

ETA: my only hope is Zak getting in and AB being scared of left vote split, this might make him hold off

I don't think he will call it this year, I believe it's going to be 2027.

They need more time to work on manifesto.

So will offer to end triple lock, reform CGT to include property gains on death, wealth tax incl property (incl prime residence). So they will hit middle classes yet again, but will offer EU referendum or "much stronger cooperation" with EU to still capture liberal vote which will be badly affected by tax reforms. So people like me will have to chose between living something to their DCs and returning their EU access.

Tory will promise to abolish IHT and cut welfare.

LibDems are irrelevant, they will form coalition if Lab don't get outright majority.

But he's have to come out with an actual plan on raising taxes in his manifesto? I'm not sure the press would let them get away with the "no taxes raises for ordinary workers" without asking a lot of questions on the loopholes again.

Anyway would people vote for more taxes for an even bigger welfare state?