2 private donations of £36m each to one political party - is this the future of democracy in a world at the mercy of tech bros?

Stop the ridiculous all rich people are bad rhetoric, which Labour have jacked up in the last few days due their political need for survival and look at tax policy as a way to incentivise people to earn and work.

We need jobs for people, especially young people.

How would lack of vilification make a difference? It’s words. The debt would take forever to pay down and let’s not forget that £1.7 trillion of the £2.7 trillion was incurred by the Tories. And, no, it wasn’t all because of Covid. The debt continued to rise under the coalition despite the slash and burn of public services.

@EasternStandard I'm not asking for a critique of existing policies, I'm asking what you think should be done to sort out the issues?

You want me to specify for Healey ; this is Labour’s hole, he and Burnham will have to decide what to do. This was easily foreseeable, even before the GE.

A party dedicated to spending more but falsely stating it was all “fully funded and fully costed” would always struggle with debt costs piling up.

But if you need something the BoE guy this morning said tax hikes and spending cuts.

Lol, nothing specific then?!

A good start would not be vilifying people who want to move here with backgrounds such as the one below. Even Burnham knows this hence his recent article. Labour tend to sweat, lash out and jump due to Reform.

On debt it’ll probably take a party that isn’t mired with we need to spend ever more at its core.

When did they move back to the UK?

Reform won't confirm they have.

Delo's background hasn't stopped him from pleading guilty to bank Secrecy Act violations

How do you think the debt should be addressed @EasternStandard ?

Yes. It really is something. And yet our debt piles higher and the cost of that is over £100bn in debt servicing. Trying to do the opposite of what Burnham said he wanted will only make that higher.

Mind you the business secretary did the same with hyperbolic language.

There is no doubt that Delo has achieved amazing things. But he pled guilty to a federal crime. Why did the orange one pardon him?

@EasternStandard if they definitely have moved back to the UK, it is only very recently.

I do not necessarily think that they are evil people but they have made their billions and lived overseas for a long time, in Harborne's case for over 20 years. I cannot help but think, if it weren't for Nige's enthusiasm for the de-regulated crypto marketplace, they would not be such keen supporters of Reform.

Sugar coated daddies is right up there with Tory scum for showing a lack of class. What was Burnham thinking.

They’ve moved back to the U.K.

On Delo look at his background. A state school educated, Oxbridge maths student.

University of Oxford (Worcester College):Graduated in 2005 with a First-Class Honours degree in Mathematics and Computer Science.
Lord Williams's School

The Giving Pledge (2019): Became the youngest billionaire to sign the pledge, committing the majority of his wealth to global long-term causes, nuclear security, and preventing pandemics.

Can you imagine any party vilifying this person due to sweating over political survival. Usually attracting someone with these credentials would be wanted. In fact Burnham wrote an article on wanting people like this.

Instead we have Rayner losing it with ‘sugar daddies’. And the business secretary close behind with rhetoric. Incredible how much people will repeat Labour’s vilification.

@Pineneedlesincarpet I have. Their proposals would require a radical and massive overhaul of our current legal system and would also have a significant impact on particular for the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and the UK-EU Trade & Co-operation Agreement. If everything they propose were to be implemented would be hugely radical and complex legislation and the detail would take much time to work out and to draft. I do not understand what it would do to help the economy - hence enquiring how Reform will do things differently and sort our our economic issues?

Please explain to me how overseas crapto billionaires are "wealth creators".

He probably committed no crime himself as he wasn't involved in the actual assault. But his behaviour was disgusting.

Please explain to me how overseas crypto billionaires are "wealth creators".

The choice to bring charges was hers. I guess that would upset her future plans for disrupting conferences though. She certainly seems to know where her priorities lie.

You can't possibly vote Tory and see Reform are way more in tune with the public on immigration. You have to be very black and white thinking according to the proponents of critical thinking. It's really quite bizarre, as well as hypocritical.

Have a look at their policies and judge for yourself. As I said I am a Conservative who thinks Labour is the worst option. Other than the Greens.

Because his victim hasn’t brought charges presumably. We all saw Stephen Cooling set about her with his walking stick and someone else pull her hair. Very strange morals and values Reform supporters have.

I was simply quoting the PP, Blossom. No need to sound so condescending (predictive text put something else there that amused me but has been corrected).

How will Reform solve the immigrant issue and how will that boost our economy?

Why hasn't he been arrested, in that case?

You can tell because the language is so heaped against the donors. Typically attracting wealth creators would be what any party wants. Political survival and sweat.