Farage receives second £36m donation in two days for Reform

The Anyone But Labour vote is much less pronounced than the Anyone But Farage vote. Reform know there is an issue of increased target voting to keep them out.

Are you trying to deflect from my question by asking one of your own?

Anyway, I've already said that I don't think this is about individual tales of woe, but in answer to your question, I would probably say the former colleague who was made redundant at the same time as me and subsequently lost his home as a result.

But the point is, we are not talking about individual sob stories but about the impact on a whole economy. For the vast majority of people, the damage done by Brexit won't be experienced in isolation, because that simply isn't how economies work. The damage done by Brexit will instead be layered on top of many other other factors - it won't necessarily have caused all of the problems that people may be facing, but it will have undoubtedly made things worse because the whole economy is smaller.

So I will ask the question one more time. Are you disputing the broad economic consensus that Brexit has made our economy significantly smaller, and if so, on what basis?

Or are you suggesting that the economy being smaller makes no difference to the lives of ordinary British people? And if so, can you explain your rationale for this?

Yes, your question was the worst thing to happen to someone because of Brexit. Did you mean the worst thing to happen to someone already living in the UK?

They were deported because of Sweden though?

I don’t know them but I imagine these people found being deported back to Britain because of Brexit pretty awful. https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/05/sweden-britons-deportations-brexit

Why are you so angry about that?

Can you give an example of the worst thing that has happened to someone you know because of Brexit?

It’s the same as the local elections attempt and switching leader. Reform cause Labour to do whatever to try to not lose.

Labour increased their net assets in the same year. The Conservatives ran a deficit in 2024 and had a big surplus the following year. Reform have been raking it in for a couple of years. What should we take from that?

Still not actually answering the question then? Never mind.

Most of the problems we face come from the global debt bubble and the unwinding of the globalist agenda, of course economists who work for global banks are going to blame Brexit for everything! Economies shrink and expand, it doesn"t mean that people are in hardship, people in the UK only started to wake up when Iran kicked their mortgage rate up, very few people dwell on Brexit now, it is and was a sideshow.

@BoredZelda , how is it corruption? The people who’ve donated say that they have done so to level the playing field for Reform compared to Labour and the Conservative’s funds. That seems entirely reasonable to me.

So you can't envisage that there might be multiple factors impacting on the economy at any given time, and you think that the only problem that we face as a country is the rate of individual borrowing?

I don't think there is much point in us continuing this discussion. I can't explain basic economics in a mumsnet post, and I'm not really sure that you want to engage with the economic reality in any case.

If you want to tell yourself that Brexit hasn't had an impact, you carry on. For the record, I note that you didn't answer my question about whether you disagreed with the analysis that the UK economy is smaller as a result of Brexit or whether you were instead trying to argue that a smaller economy would have no impact on people. I'm guessing that we shall forever be left wondering.

Labour is now sending out 'begging letters'

https://www.aol.co.uk/articles/panic-labour-hq-party-begs-182600000.html

No, the fact that people were borrowing like drunken sailors for property during the housing bubble makes us more vulnerable to interest rate rises.

It's no different than the unions donating to Labour.
Currently £142 Million since 2010, Will Labour have to hand some that back as well?

Only some people are pissed off with trying to overthrow brexit. 60% of people with an opinion either way want to rejoin the EU. Pro Brexit voting is linked to being older and many of those who voted leave are no longer with us.

It’ll buy canvassing, advice and data. It doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll get enough votes.

The back dating is typical for Labour and is annoying. But even if some are ok with that it might not always be Labour in power and backdating legislation from a party they don’t like would go down badly too.

I haven't said anything about tales of woe or starving people, and that's an incredibly reductive way of looking at it. I'm talking about the overall damage to our economy and the knock-on impact of that on all of our lives.

If you want to bury your head in the sand and pretend that a significantly smaller economy has no impact on people's everyday lives, then by all means, keep telling yourself that. But that still doesn't mean that we aren't all affected by it.

You don't seem to understand that the damage done by Brexit to our economy makes us significant less resilient as a nation and therefore much more vulnerable to interest rate rises and other economic pressures.

If they don"t backdate they can"t stop Nigel, it is all very sad and obvious. They can"t stop Reform now anyway because whatever rule they cobble together funds will appear from people who are within the new guidelines because the attempts to stop a political movement are just echos of the attempts to overthrow Brexit and people are getting very very pissed off with it.

I’m curious what effect this money might really have on such a new party. It can’t really buy experience or quality, like a football club. I suppose it might attract more candidates and enable a better vetting process. They’ve said no more Tories but there might still be some to cross over I guess.

It might if more sensible less ideologically driven EU leadership emerges.