Page 12 | Farage receives second £36m donation in two days for Reform

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 09:25

Theseagullwhisperer · 14/09/2026 09:05

If that is your perception, then I think you need to get out of your echo chamber. Public opinion on these kind of enormous individual donations is really clear. https://www.transparency.org.uk/news/public-demand-clear-cap-big-donations-now:

“More than four in five Britons (83%) believe wealthy individuals use political donations to influence the government in their own personal interests.”

“Asked how they would feel about a party that introduced a limit on large donations, nearly half of Britons (47%) said they would feel more positively about it. Just 7% would feel more negatively. That support reaches into every corner of the electorate Among Reform UK voters, supporters of a cap outnumber opponents by almost ten to one, 38% to 4%. There is no political group amongst those polled that did not support caps.“

I’m not quite sure why you started a thread on this if you didn’t want to hear any opinions different to your own.

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Feel free to hide the thread or scroll on by.

Ps. There is another similar thread, evidently - feel free to jump on it.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 09:24

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 09:16

I do think there should be a cap on individuals. But there isn't at present so I would be quite happy for Greyrock to take a hammer to his piggy bank and donate his money to Nige. But only if I get to watch his face when Reform don't win the next GE.

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Leaving aside how creepy that comes across…

Ah, you see - that’s the nature of risk, something alien to socialists. Let’s say I do back Reform and they lose the next GE, you will not hear me moaning. Equally, if they were to win, I would not brook any moaning from socialists who failed to fund Labour.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 09:21

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 09:05

Did you forget your own question? Here's a handy reminder: You asked: If I were a UK resident and gave Reform 65m quid, would you object?

My response: If you want to waste money on a grifter, you should be free to do so.

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So, no objections, then?

Noted, thanks.

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EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 09:17

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 09:16

I do think there should be a cap on individuals. But there isn't at present so I would be quite happy for Greyrock to take a hammer to his piggy bank and donate his money to Nige. But only if I get to watch his face when Reform don't win the next GE.

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Do you want a cap on the amount given or would you try to exclude the unions so they alone can donate millions?

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 09:16

EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 09:08

So no to a cap on donations?

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I do think there should be a cap on individuals. But there isn't at present so I would be quite happy for Greyrock to take a hammer to his piggy bank and donate his money to Nige. But only if I get to watch his face when Reform don't win the next GE.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 09:08

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 09:05

Did you forget your own question? Here's a handy reminder: You asked: If I were a UK resident and gave Reform 65m quid, would you object?

My response: If you want to waste money on a grifter, you should be free to do so.

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So no to a cap on donations?

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 09:05

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:55

A bit harsh on Burnham, that, but OK.

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Did you forget your own question? Here's a handy reminder: You asked: If I were a UK resident and gave Reform 65m quid, would you object?

My response: If you want to waste money on a grifter, you should be free to do so.

Theseagullwhisperer · 14/09/2026 09:05

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:51

It seems dodgy because people are anti-wealth? Not in the circles I move. Wealth is often a by-product of endeavour, which is to be celebrated.

As to big money, Labour benefitted from 65m quid in union money in just five years.

If I were a UK resident and gave Reform 65m quid, would you object?

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If that is your perception, then I think you need to get out of your echo chamber. Public opinion on these kind of enormous individual donations is really clear. https://www.transparency.org.uk/news/public-demand-clear-cap-big-donations-now:

“More than four in five Britons (83%) believe wealthy individuals use political donations to influence the government in their own personal interests.”

“Asked how they would feel about a party that introduced a limit on large donations, nearly half of Britons (47%) said they would feel more positively about it. Just 7% would feel more negatively. That support reaches into every corner of the electorate Among Reform UK voters, supporters of a cap outnumber opponents by almost ten to one, 38% to 4%. There is no political group amongst those polled that did not support caps.“

I’m not quite sure why you started a thread on this if you didn’t want to hear any opinions different to your own.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 09:04

Theseagullwhisperer · 14/09/2026 08:47

Sure, but in the real world, it really isn’t just Labour voters who are troubled by unprecedentedly large donations from ultra wealthy individuals. To most people, it just does seem dodgy.

And whatever people’s party political allegiance, I don’t think anyone who respects the traditions and history of our democracy wants to see an Americanisation of our politics, where how much big money you can attract becomes the only thing that matters.

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If Labour had their way they’d keep union millions and stifle other large sums for the other parties. There’s no way that’s a good idea. To constrict all other parties bar their own.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:55

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:53

If you want to waste money on a grifter, you should be free to do so.

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A bit harsh on Burnham, that, but OK.

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MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:53

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:51

It seems dodgy because people are anti-wealth? Not in the circles I move. Wealth is often a by-product of endeavour, which is to be celebrated.

As to big money, Labour benefitted from 65m quid in union money in just five years.

If I were a UK resident and gave Reform 65m quid, would you object?

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If you want to waste money on a grifter, you should be free to do so.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:52

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:51

I am not confident that you are able to engage without being patronising. I do understand how important it is. But the sky isn't falling in quite yet. It is strange how you seem to actively want to see financial turmoil in the UK.

People were busy predicting the IMF stepping in after the last budget. But here we are.

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Please share the importance of gilt yields, for the benefit of other posters on this thread - not being patronising.

I don’t see an IMF bailout on the horizon, frankly.

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MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:51

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:47

I’m not confident you grasp just how important this is.

No matter, just wait for the budget.

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I am not confident that you are able to engage without being patronising. I do understand how important it is. But the sky isn't falling in quite yet. It is strange how you seem to actively want to see financial turmoil in the UK.

People were busy predicting the IMF stepping in after the last budget. But here we are.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:51

Theseagullwhisperer · 14/09/2026 08:47

Sure, but in the real world, it really isn’t just Labour voters who are troubled by unprecedentedly large donations from ultra wealthy individuals. To most people, it just does seem dodgy.

And whatever people’s party political allegiance, I don’t think anyone who respects the traditions and history of our democracy wants to see an Americanisation of our politics, where how much big money you can attract becomes the only thing that matters.

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It seems dodgy because people are anti-wealth? Not in the circles I move. Wealth is often a by-product of endeavour, which is to be celebrated.

As to big money, Labour benefitted from 65m quid in union money in just five years.

If I were a UK resident and gave Reform 65m quid, would you object?

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Theseagullwhisperer · 14/09/2026 08:47

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:28

Look at many of the threads on MN - Labour supporters are positively obsessed with Reform. Others might call it ‘frothing’.

Otherwise we both know that Labour are fond of trying to rearrange goalposts. Changing the rules at half time, will not help them.

I recoiled at Rayner of all people, attempting to take the moral high ground yesterday. Brass neck doesn’t begin to describe it.

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Sure, but in the real world, it really isn’t just Labour voters who are troubled by unprecedentedly large donations from ultra wealthy individuals. To most people, it just does seem dodgy.

And whatever people’s party political allegiance, I don’t think anyone who respects the traditions and history of our democracy wants to see an Americanisation of our politics, where how much big money you can attract becomes the only thing that matters.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:47

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:44

Governments are always under pressure. You do like to be dramatic!

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I’m not confident you grasp just how important this is.

No matter, just wait for the budget.

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MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:46

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 14/09/2026 08:38

Yes, under the current legislation. But under the new legislation, residency will be relevant, and I understand that there will also be a qualifying period after someone moves to the UK - presumably to prevent people claiming to be resident for short periods only in order to bypass the rules.

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That's right. They have to be resident for a year, otherwise the overseas cap applies.

EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 08:46

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:44

Governments are always under pressure. You do like to be dramatic!

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The cost of debt is making Andy Burnham’s ‘not in hoc to the markets’ out of date pdq

MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:44

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:40

UK 10 YEAR GILT YIELDS RISE 0.51% TO 5.37%

A government under pressure….

Governments are always under pressure. You do like to be dramatic!

EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 08:44

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:39

26 Aug.

Andy Burnham has dropped his support for capping political donations, causing anger among activists and Labour MPs who have long campaigned for change to the way parties are funded.

The prime minister has decided not to back amendments to the elections bill, which would cap the amount a person or an organisation can give in a single donation, according to government sources.

The decision comes after a lobbying campaign from Labour’s trade union backers, who said amendments to the bill, which returns to parliament for its remaining stages next week, could undermine their ability to donate to the party.

Like his hapless predecessor, Burnham remains in hoc to the unions and back benches (oh and the bond markets).

Yes he’d have to forget he did this if Rayner gets what she’s after. The legislation is in the HoL without it.

Perhaps the market pressure will distract them.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:40

UK 10 YEAR GILT YIELDS RISE 0.51% TO 5.37%

A government under pressure….

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:39

26 Aug.

Andy Burnham has dropped his support for capping political donations, causing anger among activists and Labour MPs who have long campaigned for change to the way parties are funded.

The prime minister has decided not to back amendments to the elections bill, which would cap the amount a person or an organisation can give in a single donation, according to government sources.

The decision comes after a lobbying campaign from Labour’s trade union backers, who said amendments to the bill, which returns to parliament for its remaining stages next week, could undermine their ability to donate to the party.

Like his hapless predecessor, Burnham remains in hoc to the unions and back benches (oh and the bond markets).

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 14/09/2026 08:38

EasternStandard · 14/09/2026 08:16

It’s the electoral register.

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Yes, under the current legislation. But under the new legislation, residency will be relevant, and I understand that there will also be a qualifying period after someone moves to the UK - presumably to prevent people claiming to be resident for short periods only in order to bypass the rules.

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Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:36

5128gap · 14/09/2026 08:33

Labour supporters are commenting alongside non Labour supporters about Reform on a thread about Reform. If that's your definition of obsession you need to buy a dictionary.
And yes i'm sure you do call it 'frothing'. It's a popular way to belittle women who disagree with you, isn't it?

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Again, nice try, but I am not biting.

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MelissaLovedMantari · 14/09/2026 08:36

Greyrock79 · 14/09/2026 08:28

Look at many of the threads on MN - Labour supporters are positively obsessed with Reform. Others might call it ‘frothing’.

Otherwise we both know that Labour are fond of trying to rearrange goalposts. Changing the rules at half time, will not help them.

I recoiled at Rayner of all people, attempting to take the moral high ground yesterday. Brass neck doesn’t begin to describe it.

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Frothing?

People are worried about a far-right, racist party getting into power. That why there are a lot of threads on Reform. Obviously you are pro-Reform so would prefer they shut up. So much for free speech, eh?