Channel 4 undercover re Farage

It gets even stranger. They are blocked from my internet. I am not in UK, so don't ask where, but I can get very little on the Orr couple. Nothing about him. Very little on her.

Near top hit for her is Companies house. Her directorships are listed. She did call herself The Honorable Helen Orr. From a European Nobility site, It seems she married the son of a Viscount in 2000, divorced by 2006. She kept "The Honourable" until she became " Reverend". I don't think she gets that from her dad being her sir. Her occupation is listed as Singer Songwriter/Priest.

Now she seems to be called "The Abbess of the Moorings."

This US right wing blog, This is a reprint I think. The original is blocked.

The Abbess Of The Moorings – The American Conservative – Mediaboss Marketing

Their big thing is something called The Jesus Prayer : "Lord Jesus Christ Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner,".

There is a strange story in that blog about a string of pearls , and a dog. How they want to create a Christian refuge. From the blog I linked

"She and James, and their two children, host Christian student boarders in their house, and have built a kind of Benedict Option community there. The place and its people are so welcoming, and I think its mostly down to Helen."

This is a world of double barrelled names and inherited privilege that has been passed on for generations. This is the WW1 war era elite stuff.

This is a world of Jesus and the Church, the old order. Top private schools. And only married people can get council houses if they are suitably subservient.

This is not "Working class Reform".

Thanks - I've had to look him up - but, yes he had a nice little earner there. Interested in this:

the UK registered charity Roger Scruton Legacy Foundation (RSLF) – named after the late conservative philosopher admired by Orbán and honoured by the state in “Scruton cafe§s” around the country.
It “received more than £512,500 from the Hungarian government since 2023 – over 90% of its total funding” according to Democracy for Sale, with speakers at its events typically aligning closely with Orbán’s anti-migrant conservative worldview.
Spectator editor and former minister Michael Gove and Reform UK’s policy chief Prof James Orr are trustees of RSLF. The charity’s funding may now be called into question, as it is likely to come under close scrutiny by Magyar’s new administration.

Matt Goodwin’s Lucrative Hungarian Fellowship Could Be in Line for the Chop Following Orbán’s Defeat – Byline Times

The two-year trail of financial controversy dogging Reform and Farage

Six claims the party has faced – from an undisclosed £5m gift to an alleged plot to bypass election laws

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/05/allegations-reform-uk-finances-nigel-farage

You can add Matt Goodwin, who stood as candidate in Gorton and Denton by-election, to that as well, MCC and Danube Institute

Yes, bizarrely, I have now come across another strong link to UK/US Christian conservatives and Hungary - Tim Montgomerie, the former advisor to Boris Johnson who defected to Reform. He is currently, also, suspended for criticizing Farage and Yusuf - well, you can't get everything wrong!

He was known for encouraging stronger links for the UK with Hungary after Brexit. Montgomerie is also linked to yet another Hungarian sponsored platform for these views - the Danube Institute.

Yes. This is not politics. This is not someone, left or right. getting interested in politics and trying to persuade the electorate that their system is better for society. No. This is a group of highbrow elites that have come up with some sort of twisted Christian Nationalist world model that they want, and they are trying to create their utopia from a puppet master position. They are using the politicians and the electorate in a devious, dishonest way, to get them to form the new world order that the puppet masters want.

Their model of the Society they want, that they want to run from behind the scenes, is too outrageous to put to the electorate.

Well done Channel 4! But every breath that the slimey snake oil salesman says, every word, every lie is ignored by the ignoramuses who support him.

And surely being championed by Nadine Dorries is a warning to all who value truth.
And shame on the Beeb not making it their headline news this morning.

And again tonight. What a car crash of an interview with Nadine Dorries 😱!

Why is that sneaky, maximum damage is always the best strategy. Farage is an enemy to the state and he needs to be exposed.

I know. I've thought them dodgy for a while. Every time I read about Orr, it convinced me more that he was up to shenanigans behind that veneer of respectability at Cambridge. And there is something genuinely funny about the idea that they take this bullshit seriously . They're like a bunch of schoolboys who found some weird old manual in an old chest in the attic and decided to put its bonkers philosophy into practice. What a bunch of w

And yet, if one even dares to suggest that Reform are racist, they throw the " you leftie elite, why do you hate the working class" mud pie.

And I am working class. But these folk, they are in a different world.

I suspect the Bishops daughter who leads Christian prayer services as an ordained Anglican vicar ...... in a converted shipping container on the "compound".

I can picture it now. A transit van in a lane outside, loaded with MI6 techies as they fly an insect drone about, Judi Dench, at Vauxhall Cross, listening in, and barking out ... " Get me the PM on the phone now".

These folk have no interest in the working class. They are an elite who want to be intellectual overlords to put their Christian Nationalism into action.

I really hope this sting brings it all down. And Vance with it. Imagine this mob running the world.

James Orr has this air of respectability because of his position in the Faculty of Divinity at Cambridge and his wife being a vicar, the dlaughter of a well-thought of late bishop of Coventry. Cambridge should offer him 'due diligence' and suspend him - he has recruited students to his philosophy as well as this dodgy dealing.

😂I wonder which one owns the white cat

I honestly need to add another layer of Bacofoil to my hat. This is scary stuff. I have not seen a mention of Bannon yet, but I think his "New World Order" is a bit different from this ?

That's one of the things I find so interesting about this.

A while back, the Reform council in Nottinghamshire decided they would spend £1000s on flags.🙄 Following criticism for being wasters, Lee Anderson made a statement saying the flags wouldnt cost the taxpayer payer a penny. Patriotic businesses would sponsor the initiative.

They didn't.
In a Reform council within a Reform constituency not one business applied to sponsor the flags.🙈

James Orr just shed more light on the fact that UK business does not back Reform.😬😬😬

Agree

😂

Yes, crazy stuff but worryingly real. Below is the main body of that Guardian article, from 3 years ago. Add to that - the MCC is funded by government-provided shares in the Hungarian multinational oil company MOLGroup, which refines oil from Russia and elsewhere. (Wikipedia).

Sources have said a Hungarian cultural centre near Trafalgar Square is expected to include a branch of Mathias Corvinus Collegium (MCC), a private university sometimes likened to a seminary for young Orbán-sympathising scholars and future leaders.

MCC, which is lavishly funded by Orbán’s government – in 2020 it received more than £1.3bn in state money and assets – already operates in the UK through a deal with the Roger Scruton Legacy Foundation, which promotes the ideas of the late British conservative philosopher.
MCC finances scholarships for hundreds of students to attend top universities, some of whom will now be sent on courses in the UK.
Orbán’s support for MCC and other institutions that espouse his ideas has been described by one supporter of the Hungarian prime minister as an attempt to create a worldwide “deep state” to cement his legacy.
Some alumni of MCC have told the Guardian that the college appeared to select bright students from modest backgrounds, who were taken to expensive restaurants and on foreign trips and addressed by far-right speakers including the US broadcaster Tucker Crlson and Orbán himself.
Orbán, who won his fourth consecutive term last year, has been hostile towards LGBTQ+ people, asylum seekers, NGOs and the independent media, with MCC a key part of how he wields cultural power. This year MCC bought Hungary’s largest bookseller, which subsequently began wrapping children’s and young adult books that feature LGBTQ+ characters in plastic.
A key connection in the UK is James Orr, a Cambridge divinity academic who has close links to a series of rightwing Conservative MPs. Orr co-runs the UK branch of the Roger Scruton Legacy Foundation and has close links to MCC
Orr, who told the Guardian he had no knowledge about any move into London by MCC, was one of the organisers of May’s National Conservative Conference which was attended by a series of Conservative ministers and MPs. He is also involved in a think-tank with the Tory MPs Danny Kruger and Miriam Cates.
Among members of the Scruton foundation’s advisory board are John Hayes, another leading culture war-friendly Conservative MP, and Douglas Murray, the Spectator writer, who is also a visiting fellow at the Danube Institute, a rightwing thinktank partly funded by the Hungarian state.

I can't open the Guardian where I am, but I got a version of the FT article, and it reads like a cross between a Bond film, throw in "The boys from Brazil, and a chunk of Waco Texas for good measure.

These folk are nuts.

Edit typo.

Yes - at least the Hungarians got rid of Orban, no thanks to Vance. I have found James Orr one to watch for a while, more interesting than Farage.

Viktor Orbán-influenced university plans outpost in London | Viktor Orbán | The Guardian

This James Orr is a right one ain't he. Full on right wing Christian Nationalist. That is quite a gang Theil has collected.

Not sure this works as a defence 🤔

https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mup3onee7c2q
Farage confirming how blase he is about accepting cash:

"I'm not an expert about how family trusts work... I have no idea how this works.... I ask a question of the people around the table, "Is this legit?"... I'm told they're going to give us money... I basically didn't give it a second thought."