Channel 4 undercover re Farage

@blossomtoes

She certainly wouldn’t be saying that if the Tories were in power, they’d be shouting the decrease in numbers from the rooftops.

Fewer people entering the EU is a fact regardless of who says it.

There is also a lease in the accounts for a studio. 10k a year. I think that might to used to take photos of the fish?

Take photos of the fish?

I think the studio must have been used for Farage's media work and cameos.

The employee could be an admin person.

Farage and his boat.

Remember this bit from the Mirror

"The Reform UK leader bragged in April that he was the only MP "that has a financial stake in the commercial fishing industry" - revealing he owns a commercial boat with a skipper. But there is no mention of this in his register of interests."

In an interview with GB News, Mr Farage said he was “heavily invested” in fishing. He told the network - which employs him to host a weekday show: “I’m the only member of Parliament that has a financial stake in the commercial fishing industry… I own a commercial fishing boat… I have a skipper who runs that boat.”'

Note the bit in bold. He owns a commercial fishing boat, and has a skipper running it. He said that on GB news, no doubt to show why he is an expert on that industry.

And that led to a complaint.... and here is... the result of the investigation that was kicked off... by what Farage claimed.

Select Committee Report (parliament.uk)

The complaint was - NOT UPHELD

And why was it not upheld?. Paragraph 30 of the summary.

"Having considered this information, I have concluded that the complaint is not upheld. The reason for my decision is that, for the purposes of the Register of Member's Financial Interests, the commercial fishing vessel is an asset of Thorn In The Side Limited and not of Mr Farage personally, despite his comments on GB News. Therefore, it is not a registrable interest."

He exaggerated. For some reason the boat is owned by a company Farage owns, but Farage takes no income from it, makes no money from it... because it is his son that runs the boat.

The company Farage owns that owns the boat is called "Thorn In The Side Limited"

And for those who know about accounts and all that (I don't), here is the public domain companies house link -

THORN IN THE SIDE LIMITED overview - Find and update company information - GOV.UK (company-information.service.gov.uk)

From the last accounts submitted in May 2025, it has an average number of employees of, 1. ONE. So I assume that must be the son ?

Plant and machinery assets of 91660 GBP, Land and buildings 1,319,776 GBP.

There is also a lease in the accounts for a studio. 10k a year. I think that might to used to take photos of the fish ?

Conspiracy ? What conspiracy ?

Why do Reform voters just keep putting out sound bites that mean nothing. ?

Oh, I noticed I made an error in my bus thing. Not 20p to buffet, A tiny fraction of that. Ans multiply it by billions.

Ah wait. Because I mentioned Buffet ? Is that why you think conspiracy ? Gosh. I mentioned him, because at the time he owned a chunk of BYD. He has since sold it. My point was that that small bit is lost to the system. That is all, and I happen to remember at the time, that it was Buffet it was lost to. It might have been Ford or Toyota. Makes no difference. I am talking about the system. not individuals.

Goodness me.

Then they’re not set. They’re capped. If they were set no utility company would be allowed to undercut the others and the current price war wouldn’t exist.

@blossomtoes

Down is still down. By 42% in this instance.

As pointed out by Helen Whatley on BBC Question Time 24 September 2026, boat arrivals are down across Europe. So, the following logic still stands:

Fewer Mediterranean crossings equals fewer people entering the EU.

Fewer people entering the EU equals fewer people arriving in Calais.

Fewer people arriving in Calais equals fewer boat arrivals in the UK

Fewer boat arrivals is of course good. However, but it’s due to fewer people crossing the Mediterranean Sea rather anything that has been done by France or UK.

Think you will find they are controlled by the state: OFWAT set price limits, monitor performance and supposedly enforce rules. OFGEM sets the price cap every 3 months.

Have no idea about bus fare in China as we don’t use public transport when we visit.

Think you maybe on a bit of a conspiracy there Red. Never read anywhere that Farage wants to sell off the NHS, in fact just a point, Burnham signed off the privatisation of Hinchingbrooke Hospital when he was health secretary.

I have not seen anyone making things up.

Unless you mean Farage
But then you haven't seen the Channel4 footage

Quite the derailment going on.

I realise there are no other updates on the investigations.

@Worrall20

Here is a thought experiment I done.

I travelled on a city bus in China. And it was a flat fare of 20 pence. Get on the bus, pay 20p no matter how many stops. Changes busses, another 20p.

And I got thinking, where does that 20p go?

The buses were all made by BYD. And at that time, BYD 40% owned by Buffet. So that means Buffet got my 20p. Then add in the driver, cleaners, maintenance etc, and they are all employed by the state owned bus company. But maybe the bus company makes a loss. So the guv subsidizes it. And that is no problem. Because the passengers on the bus are workers going to work (many of them), or they are going to the shops to spend money. All adding to the GDP. And in all that, the only part of the 20p not paying for a function, was the bit going to Buffet. And we can say that is lost money to the system.

Compare that to the UK. Private bus company. A different private cleaning company, a different private maintenance company. And the bus company might be using a private HR company, a private recruitment company, private training company. Now that 20p looks totally different. Because now almost every part of each needed function has money going to shareholders.

The shareholders are bleeding the UK bus passenger dry. And the Government, the taxpayer, still has to pay the bus company subsidies.

It is crazy. And Reform want to make it worse.

Farage want's to flog off as much as he can to his mates. Including, apparently, the NHS.

I am on the verge of waving my red flag :-)

Quote " The price of Gas, electricity, water, transport, bus and train tickets and labour are controlled by the state."

No. Some things are capped. But if you recall, then the utilities were sold off in the past, the premise was that competition would drive prices down, and it would all be cheaper. Gas and electricity are difficult, because of the way gas is bought, but lets look at trains.

The private companies cut costs. There was accidents, so the rail infrastructure was brought back into government. Because private rail would not/could not pay.

But government still has to subsidize rail, because it is expensive. But the rail companies still pay a dividend to their shareholders. And from memory, that dividend, is usually about as the same as the government pays them. as subsidies.

It's daft. The customer buys tickets. The government pay for the rails, and they pay the train companies subsidies, and huge wads of cash goes to the shareholders, who really do nothing. Except they put give the train companies to buy trains... but they expect more money back.

But now the government are finally saying that is daft, and are taking back the rail companies.

And water is the same. Public services are being run for profit. And there is only one group paying. Customers... and taxpayers... who are the same group of people.

@pointythings

Meanwhile the number of small boat arrivals is still down

Is that in any part due to crossings in the Mediterranean Sea are down too? ie,

fewer Mediterranean crossings equals fewer people entering the EU.

Fewer people entering the EU equals fewer people arriving in Calais.

Fewer people arriving in Calais equals fewer boat arrivals in the UK

" The price of Gas, electricity, water, transport, bus and train tickets and labour are controlled by the state."

This is clearly not the case or utility companies wouldn’t be battling each other for customers, petrol would cost the same in every filling station and everyone would be paid the same.

@pointythings

Meanwhile the number of small boat arrivals is still down

Is that in any part due to crossings in the Mediterranean Sea are down too? ie,

fewer Mediterranean crossings equals fewer people entering the EU.

Fewer people entering the EU equals fewer people arriving in Calais.

Fewer people arriving in Calais equals fewer boat arrivals in the UK