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dwordle · 08/08/2026 11:26

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/08/greenland-iwarning-trump-linked-oil-firm-prepares-drill

I'm afraid we're heading into dangerous territory. Trump linked oil firm is preparing to drill for oil in Greenland without a license and at the same time Trump renews his threat to annex Greenland.

We are on the verge war with this United States of America and every European country needs to prepare it's young for the prospect of world war three because I think we are just months away from it.

At the same time the UK secret service has found a link between the recent surge of Moroccans into the Spanish enclave and Mossad the Israeli espionage group.

Germany, Finland, UK, Spain, Noway military had top level talks on Friday regarding the US and EU relations.

Things are very very bad

Greenland issues ‘strong warning’ as Trump-linked oil firm prepares to drill

Island’s government says no approval given after Greenland Energy brings kit ashore for exploratory drilling

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/08/greenland-iwarning-trump-linked-oil-firm-prepares-drill

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Notanewuser1 · Yesterday 22:05

Preppercorn · 02/09/2026 15:11

“I hope none of you have to experience the pain and shame of this”. Typical “not my president” making it all about you while the world burns and you’re doing absolutely nothing to push for change to fix this. Only Americans can afford to wallow in self pity right now. Our European economy and future peace and safety are falling off a cliff. I can’t roll my eyes hard enough without dislocating something.

Wind your neck in. That was an empathetic post - it's folk like you who stir up hatred. Americans will always be allies as far as I'm concerned, the President excepted.

MsAmerica · Yesterday 21:57

ShetlandishMum · 04/09/2026 00:07

The sane Americans don't say about the country is run do they? Or maybe it isn't reported in European news.

I'm not sure I understand your question.
The way America's government is set up, we're in an awful situation where all three branches of government - which is theoretically supposed to be a system of checks and balances - have been commandeered by one political party, the Republicans, which has been taken over by Trump and his slavish followers.
Sane Americans do what they can, but they are greatly hobbled. Everything now depends on the mid-term elections which are coming up in about eight weeks. If Democrats have substantial wins - which is now starting to seem like a possibility - things may change.

MsAmerica · Yesterday 21:53

HoppityBun · 03/09/2026 23:20

There are people like Trump all over the world. What’s worse, is that there are millions of people who will vote for people like him. In my view, it’s foolish to believe that the problem is confined to the existence of this man. The phenomenon that he represents is a many headed hydra

Of course it's not confined to one man.

But this is a bizarre and horrifying situation where one man is wreaking damage like never before in the contemporary world - and he's a catalyst, spreading it abroad as well.

dwordle · 04/09/2026 21:18

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 04/09/2026 20:48

I also find it alarming that no one - meaning ordinary people - seems to have any power now. Not even in ‘the land of the free’. France is the only country I’m aware of where public pressure, aka rioting, has really resulted in stopping the government from doing something they really wanted to, backed by neoliberalist theory.

There’s always plenty of people asking why natives of poor countries don’t do this or that to drive out their leaders. America is changing to a tyranny with leadership-worship in front of our eyes, threatening old allies, yet its people can do nothing to stop it. What chance has anyone else got?

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Possibly, maybe democracy is under threat. A lot of very powerful people behind Trump have signalled they want to do things differently, what that mean I don't know.

The problem is what that means for us and the rest of the so called free world. America is making it very clear where its new alliances are and its those that share its new view on the world. A world in which they want to carve up.

We are talking about a party that orders the name of a gulk and a lake to be change and then insists that Google and Apple change their maps. American tech is no longer independent and we can say the same things about social media.

Denmark will be making sure Greenland can resist an invasion and I suspect the UK is now sending troops to the Falklands. I think we are very close to a major incident, but Trump hasn't listened....big powerful counties don't always win

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SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 04/09/2026 20:48

I also find it alarming that no one - meaning ordinary people - seems to have any power now. Not even in ‘the land of the free’. France is the only country I’m aware of where public pressure, aka rioting, has really resulted in stopping the government from doing something they really wanted to, backed by neoliberalist theory.

There’s always plenty of people asking why natives of poor countries don’t do this or that to drive out their leaders. America is changing to a tyranny with leadership-worship in front of our eyes, threatening old allies, yet its people can do nothing to stop it. What chance has anyone else got?

dwordle · 04/09/2026 20:42

A lot of Americans have been very vocal but what power do they have other than to vote. The republicans have pretty much refused to reign in Trump rendering congress powerless.

The mistake Americans made was not listening to the warnings from prominent figures from all sides of the political spectrum and most notably Bush and Obama.

Americans get to judge Trump this November and let hope people are allowed to cast there vote freely without intimidation from the like of ICE. If Trump interferes with this election then unfortunately for Europe we are dealing with someone more dangerous than Putin. I hoping this doesn't happen.

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ShetlandishMum · 04/09/2026 00:07

MsAmerica · 03/09/2026 22:27

Well, that's half true. The sane half objects vehemently. The Trumpy half is only concerned with personal convenience and enjoys bullying.

The sane Americans don't say about the country is run do they? Or maybe it isn't reported in European news.

HoppityBun · 03/09/2026 23:20

MsAmerica · 02/09/2026 01:00

As an American, I am horrified at everything about Trump, surely the most bigoted, bullying, blood-thirsty, lying, vicious, vulgar, vindictive, selfish, self-serving, self-aggrandizing, self-dealing, meretricious, murderous, grifting, greedy, cruel, corrupt, heartless, ignorant, criminal president of all time. And especially horrified at the way he is damaging American's traditional alliances, while cozying up to the worst authoritarian dictators. I hope none of you ever have to experience the pain and shame of this.

The idea of our allies declaring war on America is just too mind-boggling to contemplate. I can only hope it won't come to that.

Thank you for your link, which I will pass on.

There are people like Trump all over the world. What’s worse, is that there are millions of people who will vote for people like him. In my view, it’s foolish to believe that the problem is confined to the existence of this man. The phenomenon that he represents is a many headed hydra

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 03/09/2026 23:16

This is worrying and I am also worried that I haven’t seen anything about this in the main news. Unless anyone else has I worry this means the UK will quietly stab our real allies in the back to continue sucking up to America. We need to get real about defence and recognise we belong in Europe.

MsAmerica · 03/09/2026 22:27

ShetlandishMum · 02/09/2026 07:32

We're just watching you casually bully Denmark again and again - and randomly bully most of the world... - and Americans more or less express that everything is fine as long as your national gas prices don't increase.

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Well, that's half true. The sane half objects vehemently. The Trumpy half is only concerned with personal convenience and enjoys bullying.

MissyB1 · 02/09/2026 15:30

DollymixtureIcecream · 02/09/2026 07:25

I think there has been a lot of gaslighting that the threat of war is coming from a different direction and it’s now becoming clear where the true threat is.

It’s terrifying territory as the US has always been with us not against us, but Trump is only for himself.

Kind of hoping maybe Mother Nature will save the day at this point.

I aurgued this on another thread the other day, that many people are ignoring the very real threat from America and Israel to world peace and the economy, because all the focus is on Russia. You wouldn't believe the sneering from some posters who clearly thought i was some kind of crank! So many people are totally naive and think Trump is all bluster (how can they believe that when hes literally causing us damage every day?!) And they think Israel is nothing to do with us and cant affect us 🤦‍♀️ Some people need to wake up.

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 02/09/2026 15:20

Preppercorn · 02/09/2026 15:11

“I hope none of you have to experience the pain and shame of this”. Typical “not my president” making it all about you while the world burns and you’re doing absolutely nothing to push for change to fix this. Only Americans can afford to wallow in self pity right now. Our European economy and future peace and safety are falling off a cliff. I can’t roll my eyes hard enough without dislocating something.

Let's not start having a go at random Americans who may be as horrified by what's happening as we are. We don't actually know what individual posters might be doing to fight Trump in the US.

Preppercorn · 02/09/2026 15:11

“I hope none of you have to experience the pain and shame of this”. Typical “not my president” making it all about you while the world burns and you’re doing absolutely nothing to push for change to fix this. Only Americans can afford to wallow in self pity right now. Our European economy and future peace and safety are falling off a cliff. I can’t roll my eyes hard enough without dislocating something.

ShetlandishMum · 02/09/2026 14:02

dwordle · 02/09/2026 13:39

I think a lot of Americans are terrified of standing up against it. The only way is the ballot box, the pen is mightier than the sword and I'm still confident that Americans have the power to change things. There is still time and a punishing blow at the mid-terms will turn the republicans against him and allow due process to remove and impeach him.

This is the only way and you have to hope after that the next president will attempt to repair old friendships.

If the old friends want to play. I know money is a big part of the game but I think America has lost af lot of goodwill the years to come from Europe.

dwordle · 02/09/2026 13:39

ShetlandishMum · 02/09/2026 07:32

We're just watching you casually bully Denmark again and again - and randomly bully most of the world... - and Americans more or less express that everything is fine as long as your national gas prices don't increase.

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I think a lot of Americans are terrified of standing up against it. The only way is the ballot box, the pen is mightier than the sword and I'm still confident that Americans have the power to change things. There is still time and a punishing blow at the mid-terms will turn the republicans against him and allow due process to remove and impeach him.

This is the only way and you have to hope after that the next president will attempt to repair old friendships.

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ShetlandishMum · 02/09/2026 07:32

MsAmerica · 02/09/2026 01:00

As an American, I am horrified at everything about Trump, surely the most bigoted, bullying, blood-thirsty, lying, vicious, vulgar, vindictive, selfish, self-serving, self-aggrandizing, self-dealing, meretricious, murderous, grifting, greedy, cruel, corrupt, heartless, ignorant, criminal president of all time. And especially horrified at the way he is damaging American's traditional alliances, while cozying up to the worst authoritarian dictators. I hope none of you ever have to experience the pain and shame of this.

The idea of our allies declaring war on America is just too mind-boggling to contemplate. I can only hope it won't come to that.

Thank you for your link, which I will pass on.

We're just watching you casually bully Denmark again and again - and randomly bully most of the world... - and Americans more or less express that everything is fine as long as your national gas prices don't increase.

DollymixtureIcecream · 02/09/2026 07:25

I think there has been a lot of gaslighting that the threat of war is coming from a different direction and it’s now becoming clear where the true threat is.

It’s terrifying territory as the US has always been with us not against us, but Trump is only for himself.

Kind of hoping maybe Mother Nature will save the day at this point.

dwordle · 02/09/2026 07:22

Europeans are hoping for a change this November. The war you talk about has already started, we are no longer allies but victims of a very powerful bully.

Trade wars, using tech billionaires to interfere with our democracies, supporting a genocide and then punishing other countries that opposed it. Using threats to undermine the sovereignty of British territory. These are not actions of an alliance member and it's something we would normally expect from Putin. We completely understand our position and we accept we have a very poor hand in this game Trump plays but it won't go unpunished. Any attempt to annex a NATO ally will be met with fire and fury regardless of the outcome. We are not scared to lose but will fight trying... surely history shows you that.

I feel sorry for Americans who are having to live with this but ultimately you have a choice this November. You have to use democracy to unseat your tyrant in Washington. Poor midterm results are you best hope to make sure you don't lose the right to choose your next president and lose your constitution.

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MsAmerica · 02/09/2026 01:00

As an American, I am horrified at everything about Trump, surely the most bigoted, bullying, blood-thirsty, lying, vicious, vulgar, vindictive, selfish, self-serving, self-aggrandizing, self-dealing, meretricious, murderous, grifting, greedy, cruel, corrupt, heartless, ignorant, criminal president of all time. And especially horrified at the way he is damaging American's traditional alliances, while cozying up to the worst authoritarian dictators. I hope none of you ever have to experience the pain and shame of this.

The idea of our allies declaring war on America is just too mind-boggling to contemplate. I can only hope it won't come to that.

Thank you for your link, which I will pass on.

ShetlandishMum · 09/08/2026 22:09

dwordle · 09/08/2026 21:31

That's a decision for Greenland.

And Denmark.

BlueDillieDillie · 09/08/2026 21:52

dwordle · 09/08/2026 21:31

That's a decision for Greenland.

Yes I agree, however Greenland and Denmark decide.
Certainly not the USA nor a Texan Company.

dwordle · 09/08/2026 21:31

BlueDillieDillie · 09/08/2026 09:53

I had missed that there is oil under Greenland. I know about many ore deposits, copper and common metals to the exotic such as tantalum.
An oil spill, accidental or "accidental" would be very serious there. Mining would have lower ecological risk.
Some development should be permitted to bring money into the region.

That's a decision for Greenland.

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BlueDillieDillie · 09/08/2026 09:53

I had missed that there is oil under Greenland. I know about many ore deposits, copper and common metals to the exotic such as tantalum.
An oil spill, accidental or "accidental" would be very serious there. Mining would have lower ecological risk.
Some development should be permitted to bring money into the region.

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