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Wither Manchester ?

32 replies

EmmaOfNormandy · 29/07/2026 18:16

Just finding it odd there hasn't been much (if any) real discussion about the mayoral election in Manchester tomorrow.

Almost seems conspicuous by it's absence.

Anyway, looking at polling, it seems a straight swap: Labour for Labour. What would this mean for Mancunians, and the UK more widely ?

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concertinacornflake · 01/08/2026 23:43

Clearinguptheclutter · 01/08/2026 08:21

@concertinacornflake
odd that the voting system keeps changing for this election
odd that there has been almost no media interest even locally
odd that they took 15 hours to count votes on a tiny turnout
odd that I didn’t get a single leaflet from any party
most of all odd that (yey!) the reform vote clearly collapsed after months of media narrative that reform were beating Labour in Manchester. And media don’t seem to have noticed.

The Tories changed it, Labour changed it back.
There's been some reporting of policies but the result has been under no doubt for some time so not much drama.
The counting of half a million votes takes a long time, especially given two rounds.

Boomer55 · 01/08/2026 17:20

The Labour female candidate won after second preferences were counted. Time will tell if she’s any good.

the voting:

news.sky.com/story/comfortable-victory-but-uncomfortable-numbers-for-labour-in-greater-manchester-13569010

Igmum · 01/08/2026 08:38

I got leaflets and canvassers from Labour, no one else. The reason the votes took longer to count was because they saved money by not doing an overnight count and waiting until the next day.

I’m not looking forward to Bev Craig as mayor - and I speak as an ex Labour voter. She was a disaster in her last role and nearly made Manchester bankrupt, she doesn’t agree with women having rights and has decided not to follow the Supreme Court judgement and in a previous role she was involved in covering up the Rotherham abuse scandal. On a more minor note she also seems rather controlling and petty (at a charity event she complained that the Greens had been invited - well, duh, it’s a charity of course they were).

Clearinguptheclutter · 01/08/2026 08:21

@concertinacornflake
odd that the voting system keeps changing for this election
odd that there has been almost no media interest even locally
odd that they took 15 hours to count votes on a tiny turnout
odd that I didn’t get a single leaflet from any party
most of all odd that (yey!) the reform vote clearly collapsed after months of media narrative that reform were beating Labour in Manchester. And media don’t seem to have noticed.

Fibrous · 01/08/2026 07:55

🎉

JimBobsWife · 01/08/2026 07:31

placemats · 01/08/2026 01:50

Well done Bev Craig 💯 😁

Yay for Bev!

concertinacornflake · 01/08/2026 06:06

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:58

Sky is reporting that Labour got 45% in the first round way ahead of Reform who were distant 2nd
I assume they add both 1st and 2nd preferences together at this point but it’s all very odd. Especially the fact that they used this system for the first two GM elections (though Burnham won outright so the second round didn’t count) but NOT the last one

What do you think is odd?

Burnham got 60% last time, probably due to the fact the return of FPTP made those who would naturally vote green 1, labour 2 switch to Burnham to be on the safe side.

concertinacornflake · 01/08/2026 06:02

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:59

I don’t disagree but we were actually involved in the Iraq war. What is going on in Gaza is nothing to do with us, at least not officially

This is not a new thing - some voters have always factored national foreign policy into voting behaviour at every level. This is the nature of party politics.

All parties take positions on foreign matters, and all voters can base their vote on that if they choose to.

placemats · 01/08/2026 01:50

JimBobsWife · 31/07/2026 20:54

Based on what evidence? All parties except Reform and Labour have now been eliminated. It was supposed to be a shoo-in for Labour so what happened to them? Why is there a second count?

Well done Bev Craig 💯 😁

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:59

concertinacornflake · 31/07/2026 21:39

Gaza is a voting issue at all elections now, as Iraq was back in Blair's day.

I don’t disagree but we were actually involved in the Iraq war. What is going on in Gaza is nothing to do with us, at least not officially

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:58

Sky is reporting that Labour got 45% in the first round way ahead of Reform who were distant 2nd
I assume they add both 1st and 2nd preferences together at this point but it’s all very odd. Especially the fact that they used this system for the first two GM elections (though Burnham won outright so the second round didn’t count) but NOT the last one

concertinacornflake · 31/07/2026 21:39

QueenOfThorns · 31/07/2026 21:11

To be fair, there was so little news or fanfare about it, I nearly forgot to vote, so a lot of people may have been intending to but just didn’t remember in time!

We got one candidate flyer through the door, from the Green Party candidate, who seemed to think that Gaza has something to do with the mayor of Greater Manchester Confused

Gaza is a voting issue at all elections now, as Iraq was back in Blair's day.

concertinacornflake · 31/07/2026 21:37

JimBobsWife · 31/07/2026 21:17

It was a rhetorical question in reply to the previous poster who was suggesting Reform had done really badly when there's no evidence that's the case.

Reform will be disappointed with the result, it's a big drop compared to the locals.

concertinacornflake · 31/07/2026 21:36

JimBobsWife · 31/07/2026 20:54

Based on what evidence? All parties except Reform and Labour have now been eliminated. It was supposed to be a shoo-in for Labour so what happened to them? Why is there a second count?

The result is pretty decent for Labour.
Since 2024 (when Burnham won) two major things have changed:

  1. Green polling has risen significantly, mostly from Labour
  2. Burnham is no longer the candidate (obviously)

At the start of the Makerfield by election, Reform had high hopes of potentially winning the Manchester mayoralty, given their local election results. They will put a brave face on a disappointing result for them.

JimBobsWife · 31/07/2026 21:17

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:07

Because nobody got over 50%. An absolute majority is needed so now they are counting 2nd preferences

in the past Andy Burnham got over 60% so the Labour vote is clearly down

It was a rhetorical question in reply to the previous poster who was suggesting Reform had done really badly when there's no evidence that's the case.

MrsTomRipley · 31/07/2026 21:12

I had 5 leaflets from the Greens and nothing from any other party.

QueenOfThorns · 31/07/2026 21:11

jobnotsure · 31/07/2026 17:59

Yes 2017 was when this role first started, they didn't have one before that point. From what I've read it was 28% in 2017 and about 25% this time.
So poor that many couldn't be bothered.

To be fair, there was so little news or fanfare about it, I nearly forgot to vote, so a lot of people may have been intending to but just didn’t remember in time!

We got one candidate flyer through the door, from the Green Party candidate, who seemed to think that Gaza has something to do with the mayor of Greater Manchester Confused

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:07

JimBobsWife · 31/07/2026 20:54

Based on what evidence? All parties except Reform and Labour have now been eliminated. It was supposed to be a shoo-in for Labour so what happened to them? Why is there a second count?

Because nobody got over 50%. An absolute majority is needed so now they are counting 2nd preferences

in the past Andy Burnham got over 60% so the Labour vote is clearly down

JulietteHasAGun · 31/07/2026 21:06

I’ve never heard of ballots having a second preference and because the two front runners are so close they’re now co7nting the second preference votes from people who didn’t vote reform or labour.

why do they not say who got the most votes wins? They can’t surely have an exact same number of votes.

Clearinguptheclutter · 31/07/2026 21:06

Violetparis · 31/07/2026 17:54

I live in Greater Manchester and voted. We didn't get any candidate flyers from any parties posted through our door or anyone knocking at the door. It has all been very quiet which I find odd.

Same. Depressingly low turnout. I’m surprised at the low turnout but with the lack of any leaflets or doorknockers perhaps I shouldn’t be

JimBobsWife · 31/07/2026 20:54

placemats · 31/07/2026 18:02

No surprises that Reform UK didn't do well regarding supporting their candidate.

Based on what evidence? All parties except Reform and Labour have now been eliminated. It was supposed to be a shoo-in for Labour so what happened to them? Why is there a second count?

TigTails · 31/07/2026 19:19

They’re in the top two!

placemats · 31/07/2026 18:02

No surprises that Reform UK didn't do well regarding supporting their candidate.

jobnotsure · 31/07/2026 17:59

placemats · 31/07/2026 17:54

Lowest turnout since 2017.

Yes 2017 was when this role first started, they didn't have one before that point. From what I've read it was 28% in 2017 and about 25% this time.
So poor that many couldn't be bothered.

placemats · 31/07/2026 17:54

Lowest turnout since 2017.

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