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Thoughts on Colin Brazier’s critique of Labour’s performance

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PinkFruitbat · 25/07/2026 09:34

Former journalist Colin Brazier provides a forensic dissection of Labour’s inadequacy.

https://x.com/outpoststudios/status/2080684432730825084?s=46&t=wjgj9AHysRwn3YQi4vJFdw

Well worth a watch.

Outpost Studios (@OutpostStudios) on X

The Reason Our MPs Got So Bad. This week's Brazier, with @ColinBrazierTV. Only on @OutpostStudios.

https://x.com/outpoststudios/status/2080684432730825084?s=46&t=wjgj9AHysRwn3YQi4vJFdw

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PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 17:07

CurlewKate · 30/07/2026 16:39

Are you being serious? I need to be sure before I waste any more time on this. I mean, obviously there aren’t currently any MPs who fought in WW11….
Incidentally-while there was much to admire about Ann Widdecombe. I wouldn’t pick her morality, personally. Her handcuffing pregnant prisoners and her Vicar of Bray type approach to religion and her politics say otherwise…

If you don’t want to watch the monologue or comment about it then don’t!

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stuckdownahole · 30/07/2026 17:06

DuncinToffee · 30/07/2026 14:49

Are you saying that care worker isn't a proper job?

No, I obviously wasn't clear. I was putting Angela Rayner (ex care worker) in a different category to the various others who had been SPADs or worked in the third sector.

I'm not a big fan of hers but she is from an authentic working-class background and I'd like to see more people like that in the Cabinet.

CurlewKate · 30/07/2026 16:39

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:56

It’s rammed full of facts.

  • politicians used to be limited to reading notes at the dispatch box
  • former PMs were deep complex individuals who authored and spoke multiple languages
  • politicians used to be decorated military, now not so much
  • we are now a pampered online bunch not really experienced in the same hardship of the wartime generations.
  • Labour’s revelling in self pity, spitefulness “Tories are scum”, class envy and hatred
  • Cancelling of local elections
  • Excodus of millionaires
  • the dangerous dependence on high income earners tax contributions
  • 50th anniversary of our IMF bailout when we run out of money.
  • Reeves proposal to tax global wealth (UK citizens resident in other countries)
  • Taxing private schools, and the lies that money would benefit state schools, no 6000 extra teachers
  • family farm tax, farm sell offs

Are you being serious? I need to be sure before I waste any more time on this. I mean, obviously there aren’t currently any MPs who fought in WW11….
Incidentally-while there was much to admire about Ann Widdecombe. I wouldn’t pick her morality, personally. Her handcuffing pregnant prisoners and her Vicar of Bray type approach to religion and her politics say otherwise…

DuncinToffee · 30/07/2026 16:38

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:56

It’s rammed full of facts.

  • politicians used to be limited to reading notes at the dispatch box
  • former PMs were deep complex individuals who authored and spoke multiple languages
  • politicians used to be decorated military, now not so much
  • we are now a pampered online bunch not really experienced in the same hardship of the wartime generations.
  • Labour’s revelling in self pity, spitefulness “Tories are scum”, class envy and hatred
  • Cancelling of local elections
  • Excodus of millionaires
  • the dangerous dependence on high income earners tax contributions
  • 50th anniversary of our IMF bailout when we run out of money.
  • Reeves proposal to tax global wealth (UK citizens resident in other countries)
  • Taxing private schools, and the lies that money would benefit state schools, no 6000 extra teachers
  • family farm tax, farm sell offs

You have a problem distinguishing between facts and opinions

Do you really want to experience the wartime hardships? Brazier was born in 1968.

How far back do we go for those 'good old times'?

LizzieSiddal · 30/07/2026 16:28

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:56

It’s rammed full of facts.

  • politicians used to be limited to reading notes at the dispatch box
  • former PMs were deep complex individuals who authored and spoke multiple languages
  • politicians used to be decorated military, now not so much
  • we are now a pampered online bunch not really experienced in the same hardship of the wartime generations.
  • Labour’s revelling in self pity, spitefulness “Tories are scum”, class envy and hatred
  • Cancelling of local elections
  • Excodus of millionaires
  • the dangerous dependence on high income earners tax contributions
  • 50th anniversary of our IMF bailout when we run out of money.
  • Reeves proposal to tax global wealth (UK citizens resident in other countries)
  • Taxing private schools, and the lies that money would benefit state schools, no 6000 extra teachers
  • family farm tax, farm sell offs

😂

He can now do a list of the Tory’s 14 years of failure and Reforms dodgy dealings with Crypto billionaires.

placemats · 30/07/2026 16:28

pointythings · 30/07/2026 16:23

That's quite the list of bullshit, distortions and opinion founded on toxic nostalgia for 'the good old days'. Not unexpected from this man. Did he ever apologise for the ghoulish suitcase trawl?

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/22/mh17-sky-news-reporter-colin-brazier-crash-victims-luggage

He did for his "error of judgement" and "gaffe".

MH17: my error of judgment, by Sky News reporter

Colin Brazier on how he came to pick up crash victims' luggage live on air – and immediately realised he had crossed a line

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/22/mh17-sky-news-reporter-colin-brazier-crash-victims-luggage

LizzieSiddal · 30/07/2026 16:25

mellongoose · 30/07/2026 06:33

I wish our new PM would be interviewed by Andrew Neil.

I’m sure he’d agree to it if Nigel Farage did the same.

pointythings · 30/07/2026 16:23

That's quite the list of bullshit, distortions and opinion founded on toxic nostalgia for 'the good old days'. Not unexpected from this man. Did he ever apologise for the ghoulish suitcase trawl?

BIossomtoes · 30/07/2026 16:07

placemats · 30/07/2026 16:06

He's regurgitating nonsense, though if you're happy to lap it up, so be it 😀

Gullibility can be astounding when it suits one’s own narrative.

placemats · 30/07/2026 16:06

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:56

It’s rammed full of facts.

  • politicians used to be limited to reading notes at the dispatch box
  • former PMs were deep complex individuals who authored and spoke multiple languages
  • politicians used to be decorated military, now not so much
  • we are now a pampered online bunch not really experienced in the same hardship of the wartime generations.
  • Labour’s revelling in self pity, spitefulness “Tories are scum”, class envy and hatred
  • Cancelling of local elections
  • Excodus of millionaires
  • the dangerous dependence on high income earners tax contributions
  • 50th anniversary of our IMF bailout when we run out of money.
  • Reeves proposal to tax global wealth (UK citizens resident in other countries)
  • Taxing private schools, and the lies that money would benefit state schools, no 6000 extra teachers
  • family farm tax, farm sell offs

He's regurgitating nonsense, though if you're happy to lap it up, so be it 😀

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:56

BIossomtoes · 30/07/2026 15:35

I’m sure you did. Any comment on the facts - or lack of them - contained therein?

It’s rammed full of facts.

  • politicians used to be limited to reading notes at the dispatch box
  • former PMs were deep complex individuals who authored and spoke multiple languages
  • politicians used to be decorated military, now not so much
  • we are now a pampered online bunch not really experienced in the same hardship of the wartime generations.
  • Labour’s revelling in self pity, spitefulness “Tories are scum”, class envy and hatred
  • Cancelling of local elections
  • Excodus of millionaires
  • the dangerous dependence on high income earners tax contributions
  • 50th anniversary of our IMF bailout when we run out of money.
  • Reeves proposal to tax global wealth (UK citizens resident in other countries)
  • Taxing private schools, and the lies that money would benefit state schools, no 6000 extra teachers
  • family farm tax, farm sell offs
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placemats · 30/07/2026 15:53

LuckyHazelFox · 25/07/2026 11:43

It's a fantastic analysis. You will get a lot of pushback on here if people bother to listen to it. Or will they dismiss it as biased garbage? It's true, Labour is a spiteful party whose MPs operate on victimhood. It's no wonder many of their voters do the same - the party they admire enables that. Loved his discussion about Ann.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/20/sky-news-presenter-brazier-mh17-luggage-crash

This Colin Brazier who went through victim's suitcases?

Sky News apologises after presenter is seen looking through MH17 luggage

Broadcaster met with storm of criticism after footage emerges of Colin Brazier picking items from suitcase at crash site

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/jul/20/sky-news-presenter-brazier-mh17-luggage-crash

CurlewKate · 30/07/2026 15:44

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 14:46

Labour introducing VAT on private schools for no other reason than bitterness and spite is a pretty solid fact.

Explain to me how you support the bitterness and spite motive.

BIossomtoes · 30/07/2026 15:35

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:31

I enjoyed his monologue.

I’m sure you did. Any comment on the facts - or lack of them - contained therein?

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 15:31

BIossomtoes · 30/07/2026 15:28

Isn’t one thread filled with your opinion on this enough? We all know what you think, what are your thoughts on Brazier’s monologue?

I enjoyed his monologue.

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BIossomtoes · 30/07/2026 15:28

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 14:46

Labour introducing VAT on private schools for no other reason than bitterness and spite is a pretty solid fact.

Isn’t one thread filled with your opinion on this enough? We all know what you think, what are your thoughts on Brazier’s monologue?

pointythings · 30/07/2026 15:00

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 14:46

Labour introducing VAT on private schools for no other reason than bitterness and spite is a pretty solid fact.

Labour introducing VAT on private education is a fact. The rest of it is pure opinion. Private school is a luxury.

DuncinToffee · 30/07/2026 14:49

stuckdownahole · 30/07/2026 13:58

It's an anti-Labour piece from a right-leaning journalist but that doesn't mean there isn't a kernel of truth. Labour used to have MPs from genuine working-class backgrounds - now it's Angela Rayner and a bunch of people who worked as SPADS or in the third sector. At the last election the majority of the party's support came from voters in the ABC1 (professional and non-manual) sector so in reality its MPs reflect their voters ... middle management and clerical types.

It doesn't mean that Labour have to throw in the towel but perhaps MPs from the current generation have less sense of what a Labour government is supposed to be for.

Are you saying that care worker isn't a proper job?

PinkFruitbat · 30/07/2026 14:46

Labour introducing VAT on private schools for no other reason than bitterness and spite is a pretty solid fact.

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pointythings · 30/07/2026 14:24

inkognitha · 30/07/2026 13:29

Of course, the moment facts get in the way, it’s all subjective.

Do you know that when you put beliefs over truth, it has more to do with religiosity than politics or intellectual debate?

Your ilk is like religious zealots at this stage, probably why the left sees no issue allying itself with non-secular religions.

What facts are presented here then? Because if you can't identify them, that rather supports the idea that things are facts if you agree with them, and opinions (or zealotry) if you don't.

MeNotYouJustMe · 30/07/2026 14:03

inkognitha · 30/07/2026 13:29

Of course, the moment facts get in the way, it’s all subjective.

Do you know that when you put beliefs over truth, it has more to do with religiosity than politics or intellectual debate?

Your ilk is like religious zealots at this stage, probably why the left sees no issue allying itself with non-secular religions.

It’s a very odd take - why are facts only facts if they are on your “side”?

stuckdownahole · 30/07/2026 13:58

It's an anti-Labour piece from a right-leaning journalist but that doesn't mean there isn't a kernel of truth. Labour used to have MPs from genuine working-class backgrounds - now it's Angela Rayner and a bunch of people who worked as SPADS or in the third sector. At the last election the majority of the party's support came from voters in the ABC1 (professional and non-manual) sector so in reality its MPs reflect their voters ... middle management and clerical types.

It doesn't mean that Labour have to throw in the towel but perhaps MPs from the current generation have less sense of what a Labour government is supposed to be for.

BIossomtoes · 30/07/2026 13:57

inkognitha · 30/07/2026 13:29

Of course, the moment facts get in the way, it’s all subjective.

Do you know that when you put beliefs over truth, it has more to do with religiosity than politics or intellectual debate?

Your ilk is like religious zealots at this stage, probably why the left sees no issue allying itself with non-secular religions.

Well I gave it 16 minutes which was all I could stand and it’s very selective with the few facts it contains.

The Bradford Riots in 2001 were a reaction to a proposed National Front march that was banned by David Blunkett, then Home Secretary. Some NF sympathisers then met outside a pub (why?) and an Asian man was stabbed. That was the trigger point. None of this is mentioned.

There were 1000 police officers there in total with 300 injuries, not 1000 injured.

I guess most of the people lapping this piece of propaganda up won’t bother to fact check it.

CurlewKate · 30/07/2026 13:44

inkognitha · 30/07/2026 13:29

Of course, the moment facts get in the way, it’s all subjective.

Do you know that when you put beliefs over truth, it has more to do with religiosity than politics or intellectual debate?

Your ilk is like religious zealots at this stage, probably why the left sees no issue allying itself with non-secular religions.

I think facts are incredibly important. That’s why I’m asking you to point me to the facts Brazier gives!

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