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Does Burnham have a real mandate without a public vote?

62 replies

MyCyanBear · 23/07/2026 11:14

Been mulling this since Monday. Burnham became Labour leader unopposed (no ballot, the nomination maths meant nobody else could even stand) and then PM without any of us voting for anything.

Then I looked it up and it's the sixth time since 2007. Brown, May, Johnson, Truss, Sunak all came in mid-term, and Sunak didn't get a members' vote either. We elect a Parliament, not a PM, so constitutionally it's all fine.

What made me pause is his defence: he says his mandate is Labour's 2024 manifesto. Which is Starmer's manifesto. While also promising the biggest change in 40 years. Both things can't really be true at once, can they?

Found a decent breakdown of the arithmetic and the precedents here: trendingsheet.com/article/burnham-no-election-mandate-does-it-matter

So does it matter? Or do we only mind when it's a PM we don't like?

OP posts:
LagerLady · 23/07/2026 12:05

VestibuleWeaver · 23/07/2026 12:04

We vote for the individual to represent our constituency in Parliament, nothing more.

I agree, I voted tactically to get my brexit MP out

VestibuleWeaver · 23/07/2026 12:04

LagerLady · 23/07/2026 12:02

If we vote for a party, why don't we get a bye election when an MP changes party?

We vote for the individual to represent our constituency in Parliament, nothing more.

LagerLady · 23/07/2026 12:04

Gingerbreadlattetoppingsontheside · 23/07/2026 12:03

Because you vote in an mp

So we vote for an MP and not a party?

Gingerbreadlattetoppingsontheside · 23/07/2026 12:03

LagerLady · 23/07/2026 12:02

If we vote for a party, why don't we get a bye election when an MP changes party?

Because you vote in an mp

LagerLady · 23/07/2026 12:02

Gingerbreadlattetoppingsontheside · 23/07/2026 11:59

Yes because we vote in a party not a leader

If we vote for a party, why don't we get a bye election when an MP changes party?

LagerLady · 23/07/2026 12:00

He has no mandate to bring back Angela Raynor, that's for sure.

Gingerbreadlattetoppingsontheside · 23/07/2026 11:59

Yes because we vote in a party not a leader

Chucklebunnie · 23/07/2026 11:58

Yes. That’s just how it works.

LlynTegid · 23/07/2026 11:57

We have a parliamentary system. If a party chooses a leader and the majority of the House support that party, he or she is legitimate as Prime Minister.

Even the traitor Boris Johnson when he forced out Theresa May and could not tell you how many children he has was legitimate.

SomersetBrie · 23/07/2026 11:53

Yes, he does.

Molm · 23/07/2026 11:51

Oh give it a rest.

StabiaGirl · 23/07/2026 11:17

No, he does not have a mandate.
A general election should be held when the ruling party changes leader.
And a by-election should be triggered when an MP changes party/allegiance.

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