Page 5 | Ann Widdecombe thread part 3

1dayatatime · 22/07/2026 16:57

KerryWeaversSpecs · 22/07/2026 16:51

Exactly. But people (not pp) are trying to make a conspiracy theory out of the wait for a trial too.

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Cutting to the chase, the motive is not yet established. But it's either personal or political and if I had to hazard a guess then I would say it's because the killer didn't agree with her politics (Reform) or political views on something (anti abortion, anti gay marriage, pro Brexit etc etc)

Brightlittlecanary · 22/07/2026 16:57

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 22/07/2026 16:53

Tbf it is the most British thing ever that the conspiracy theories around a vicious political murder centre on arguments about congestion on the M5.

Sadly this is yet another very ordinary case of a man who wanted to kill a woman and found himself a vulnerable target and made up a reason to do it

That’s not British, most Brit’s have a few brains cells. That’s just ridiculous attention seeking.

its the same nonsense as the moon landings faked, elvis is alive, bill gates was injecting us all with micro chips during covid, the world is flat , 9/11 and Kennedy assanarion were done by the government, the illuminati run the world and endless other shite some people make up to seek attention.

but on a thread like this it’s sick.

ToastSafeFromMothsAndDogs · 22/07/2026 16:53

Tbf it is the most British thing ever that the conspiracy theories around a vicious political murder centre on arguments about congestion on the M5.

Sadly this is yet another very ordinary case of a man who wanted to kill a woman and found himself a vulnerable target and made up a reason to do it

KerryWeaversSpecs · 22/07/2026 16:51

HelenaWilson · 22/07/2026 16:45

There is a massive backlog in the courts still, which is perhaps why it will take so long.

And the police probably still have enquiries to carry out. It takes time to go through phone and internet records. Then all that information has to be made available to the accused's legal team so they can plan the defence.

Exactly. But people (not pp) are trying to make a conspiracy theory out of the wait for a trial too.

Twonewcats · 22/07/2026 16:51

YourCoralCritic · 22/07/2026 14:28

Oh right, you mean DM FACTS?
Nope!
Just gullible narrow-minded people! 🙄

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What on Earth has the DM got to do with anything I said?! Just making things up as you go along.

The police have revealed what they know to be facts relating to this. No need to be facetious about it all.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 22/07/2026 16:50

LuckyHazelFox · 22/07/2026 16:45

Love it 😀 😍 bet Ann would approve 👌

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Do you know, I suspect she really would be cackling over that.

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LuckyHazelFox · 22/07/2026 16:45

Brightlittlecanary · 22/07/2026 16:42

What on earth has happened on here, a woman was brutally murdered and some people are focused on making up random conspiracy theory shite.

Love it 😀 😍 bet Ann would approve 👌

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1dayatatime · 22/07/2026 16:45

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 22/07/2026 16:13

I really didn't realise how weird people are.

Me neither. Even from behind a computer screen on an anonymous forum I'd be too embarrassed to write out some of the utter complete bollocks some people are posting.

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I went through a period of ripping apart batshit conspiracy theories on MN threads using known facts but got accused of being an apologist for whichever party or person was involved etc.

Unfortunately we seem to be in a period where feelings matter more than facts and that if you don't agree with everything I say then you clearly support the extreme of the opposing side. The middle ground is dying.

HelenaWilson · 22/07/2026 16:45

There is a massive backlog in the courts still, which is perhaps why it will take so long.

And the police probably still have enquiries to carry out. It takes time to go through phone and internet records. Then all that information has to be made available to the accused's legal team so they can plan the defence.

AnonyMumAuDHD · 22/07/2026 16:45

prh47bridge · 22/07/2026 16:18

Remind me - how often does traffic get backed up on the M1 around Sheffield and Nottingham during school runs and the rush hour? Here's a clue - it doesn't unless there is an accident. It may get busy, but it is nowhere near jammed solid.

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Well, precisely. The BBC timeline suggests she was killed around 12.30 - he was on the motor way during the ‘school rush hour’ and not on the winding backroads until late morning.

WonderfulSmith · 22/07/2026 16:42

PeachOctopus · 22/07/2026 15:24

I think the only odd thing is that Anne’s killer had no social media. He is supposed to have been unemployed and spent a lot of time alone, his car was barely used and’had weeds growing around it’ his neighbours said.
He was politically motivated and had newspaper clippings of Nigel Farage on his wall. What guy his age has not got any presence on line and why did they scrub it?

He’s unlikely to have been posting all over Facebook and instagram, far more likely to have spent time on the ‘dark web’.

Brightlittlecanary · 22/07/2026 16:42

What on earth has happened on here, a woman was brutally murdered and some people are focused on making up random conspiracy theory shite.

WonderfulSmith · 22/07/2026 16:35

LagerLady · 22/07/2026 10:55

Shame they can't catch these people BEFORE they act.

But you wouldn’t know about it.

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LuckyHazelFox · 22/07/2026 16:28

Lalgarh · 22/07/2026 16:23

Happy to derail this thread to f up the conspiracy theories with Angel Delight enema discourse if needed

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Go for it 👍

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Lalgarh · 22/07/2026 16:23

LuckyHazelFox · 22/07/2026 14:23

I know there's another specific thread on this running, but I do hope Herbert gets the book thrown at him. Now the brutal circumstances of Ann's murder have been released, it questions Aberdeen University's reluctance to sack him. Maybe they are waiting on further news about his arrest but I can't believe anybody with any decency would want to work with him again. Not to mention prospective students. Freedom of speech legislation and right to assembly is long overdue a revisit. There's so much hate out there and it DOES need curbing. It's how far we go with it is the question.

Happy to derail this thread to f up the conspiracy theories with Angel Delight enema discourse if needed

KerryWeaversSpecs · 22/07/2026 16:21

Strawberry1975 · 22/07/2026 16:14

21 Times, Sickening ,I don't get why the Trial is next June !.😥Ann was Shrewd. She basically has caught her own killer. He clearly wasn't banking on CCTV in the house.

There is a massive backlog in the courts still, which is perhaps why it will take so long.

prh47bridge · 22/07/2026 16:18

placemats · 22/07/2026 14:48

You can't speed in traffic that's backed up, especially when you leave during that time of the morning with school runs and rush hour.

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Remind me - how often does traffic get backed up on the M1 around Sheffield and Nottingham during school runs and the rush hour? Here's a clue - it doesn't unless there is an accident. It may get busy, but it is nowhere near jammed solid.

Strawberry1975 · 22/07/2026 16:14

21 Times, Sickening ,I don't get why the Trial is next June !.😥Ann was Shrewd. She basically has caught her own killer. He clearly wasn't banking on CCTV in the house.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 22/07/2026 16:13

DontDareCallMeDarling · 22/07/2026 08:37

The stuff I've seen on Facebook says this. It also variously blames Keir Starmer, Nigel Farage, Andy Burnham, says she knew too much, the guy is a "patsy", drags up David Kelly, Jill Dando, suggests Rik Mayall was bumped off, repeatedly says it's fishy, asks why are we not being told the truth, it's the deep state, they must think we're all stupid, asks when can we see the video (which is AI) and says the police are complete liars. I really didn't realise how weird people are.

Oh and she's not dead at all she's in hiding.

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I really didn't realise how weird people are.

Me neither. Even from behind a computer screen on an anonymous forum I'd be too embarrassed to write out some of the utter complete bollocks some people are posting.

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LuckyHazelFox · 22/07/2026 15:57

EasternStandard · 22/07/2026 15:47

I think it’s sad and horrific enough without conspiracy theories on top. Ik why they thrive but it’s not very nice to see.

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Agree and some of the language and tone being used here is disturbing. I wish people would keep it to themselves. If we wanted to go looking for it on FB or wherever we would.

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EasternStandard · 22/07/2026 15:47

SomethingFun · 22/07/2026 15:00

If a shadowy someone wanted Ann out of the picture then a push down the dormer stairs would’ve sufficed - look at how desperate people were to believe she had fallen and died of old age and frailty. If it was a reform murder to shore up Nigel’s dodgy money for ‘security’ then a local yokel could’ve been set up far more easily than some sad sack from Rotherham. I wouldn’t be surprised if some dodgy fuck online gave him her address and encouraged him to do it but I doubt very much it was an evil mastermind. People want conspiracies because it makes senseless things make sense.

I think it’s sad and horrific enough without conspiracy theories on top. Ik why they thrive but it’s not very nice to see.

KerryWeaversSpecs · 22/07/2026 15:29

PeachOctopus · 22/07/2026 15:24

I think the only odd thing is that Anne’s killer had no social media. He is supposed to have been unemployed and spent a lot of time alone, his car was barely used and’had weeds growing around it’ his neighbours said.
He was politically motivated and had newspaper clippings of Nigel Farage on his wall. What guy his age has not got any presence on line and why did they scrub it?

How do do you know he hasn't any SM presence?

Who is "they"?

placemats · 22/07/2026 15:27

No one can scrub their social media. If the laptop,pc is intact the information is there.

PeachOctopus · 22/07/2026 15:24

I think the only odd thing is that Anne’s killer had no social media. He is supposed to have been unemployed and spent a lot of time alone, his car was barely used and’had weeds growing around it’ his neighbours said.
He was politically motivated and had newspaper clippings of Nigel Farage on his wall. What guy his age has not got any presence on line and why did they scrub it?

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LuckyHazelFox · 22/07/2026 15:19

@1dayatatime Well said.

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