Page 13 | Ann Widdecombe thread part 3

Gengha · 21/07/2026 19:59

likelysuspect · 21/07/2026 19:56

Yes I know there were different arrest categories but I thought the person arrested right at the start was the gardener? Or a local? But was it him instead?

What a bizarre thing to do

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Yes there was originally a 26 year old man arrested (? Gardener) but quickly let go and Kerry arrested then rearrested

horrible situation

likelysuspect · 21/07/2026 19:56

Gengha · 21/07/2026 19:52

I think it’s been in the news he left home just before 8 am, she was killed around 12.20, and he was back home by 6. Tight, but doable.

as for the “rearresfed” aspect he was arrested on suspicion of murder and then rearrested on suspicion of terrorist offences

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Yes I know there were different arrest categories but I thought the person arrested right at the start was the gardener? Or a local? But was it him instead?

What a bizarre thing to do

Gengha · 21/07/2026 19:53

I imagine he was probably pretty easy to track down once they got the camera footage, they’ll have got his car registration

Gengha · 21/07/2026 19:52

likelysuspect · 21/07/2026 19:41

What I dont understand is the article in the DM says that neighbours say he didnt leave his house from the Wednesday to the Saturday when police swooped on his house to arrest him

Do they mean the Wednesday she was killed?

How did he get to Devon and back in one day?

The article also reports that he was 'rearrested' so he was arrested right at the start of the investigation?

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I think it’s been in the news he left home just before 8 am, she was killed around 12.20, and he was back home by 6. Tight, but doable.

as for the “rearresfed” aspect he was arrested on suspicion of murder and then rearrested on suspicion of terrorist offences

likelysuspect · 21/07/2026 19:41

Brightlittlecanary · 21/07/2026 19:28

Because they don’t give the public all the information immediately, they have a job to do which is more important than letting the public know. At that point the murderer likely thought he was safe.

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What I dont understand is the article in the DM says that neighbours say he didnt leave his house from the Wednesday to the Saturday when police swooped on his house to arrest him

Do they mean the Wednesday she was killed?

How did he get to Devon and back in one day?

The article also reports that he was 'rearrested' so he was arrested right at the start of the investigation?

Gengha · 21/07/2026 19:35

Brightlittlecanary · 21/07/2026 19:16

I assume they look similar. Thay would be the obvious answer. No?

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Or maybe the CCTV wasnt immediately available and had to be procured by the police

Brightlittlecanary · 21/07/2026 19:28

Noideamatey · 21/07/2026 19:27

Something doesn't sit right with me.

With the details coming out about the extent of her injuries, why at the beginning were the police stating it "might be a murder"? Seems pretty clear cut!!!

Because they don’t give the public all the information immediately, they have a job to do which is more important than letting the public know. At that point the murderer likely thought he was safe.

Noideamatey · 21/07/2026 19:27

Something doesn't sit right with me.

With the details coming out about the extent of her injuries, why at the beginning were the police stating it "might be a murder"? Seems pretty clear cut!!!

likelysuspect · 21/07/2026 19:27

placemats · 18/07/2026 15:17

The picture the Daily Mail put up was taken Easter 2022. It bears little resemblance to the recording of him getting into the car.

What recording?

Pretty shocked at the DM publishing all that information about his family with names and things

VodkaAndSoda · 21/07/2026 19:25

ofcolitas · 21/07/2026 18:58

If they had CCTV evidence of the attack then why did they arrest the gardener first?

Did they arrest the gardener? I know they arrested someone in a local town but I’m not sure they said who it was (quite rightly IMO, as the first person arrested was fairly quickly discounted)

thehardestpartis · 21/07/2026 19:24

It’s scary that on the same day this is being heard in court, people say this sort of thing

thehardestpartis · 21/07/2026 19:17

Brightlittlecanary · 21/07/2026 19:16

I assume they look similar. Thay would be the obvious answer. No?

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I’d imagine so. He was asked to go and check on her

Brightlittlecanary · 21/07/2026 19:16

ofcolitas · 21/07/2026 18:58

If they had CCTV evidence of the attack then why did they arrest the gardener first?

I assume they look similar. Thay would be the obvious answer. No?

palorina · 21/07/2026 19:12

It's so sickening and so bizarre, the method, the travel, the trophies photographed, everything about this horrible murder is just beyond comprehension to me anyway.

I can only imagine how her family and relatives are feeling, knowing the horrendous details of her death now.

Something very very strange about this.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 21/07/2026 19:11

ofcolitas · 21/07/2026 18:58

If they had CCTV evidence of the attack then why did they arrest the gardener first?

I can only guess that he (the gardener) looks a lot like the suspect.

The other thing that bothers me is her message chain with the telly producers. When she abruptly stops replying they ask if everything is ok and try to ring her a few times. But why did nobody call the police for a welfare check then? I know it wouldn't have saved her but it would've spared her having to lie dead in her kitchen for a whole day and night.

Applepe · 21/07/2026 19:05

From the news reports it seems that the gardener was asked to do a welfare check on the day of the murder, but didn’t find her until the following day. 😤

Skodacool · 21/07/2026 19:00

sittingonabeach · 21/07/2026 15:36

Who the hell drives all that way to bludgeon an old lady with a hammer and then drives back.

What would have happened if he had arrived when she was on the scheduled zoom call

That doesn’t bear thinking about!

ofcolitas · 21/07/2026 18:58

If they had CCTV evidence of the attack then why did they arrest the gardener first?

FreddoFrieda · 21/07/2026 18:54

Additup · 21/07/2026 17:48

The DM also reports they found photos of her ID/cards on his phone which IMO sounds like he was possibly posting proof of his crime to someone.

That’s sinister. I suppose the police will be able to trace the device the photos were sent to. I won’t speculate further, it’s disrespectful to Ann.

LochKatrine · 21/07/2026 18:53

MidnightPatrol · 21/07/2026 18:46

So pointlessly awful.

Just a completely unnecessary and violent end to a productive and principled life.

And at 78. She looks quite frail in recent images. Just eating lunch alone in her house.

Our public figures are increasingly vulnerable, and the polarisation of politics and demonisation of individuals is driving this kind of radicalisation.

Absolutely..we seem to be losing the middle ground. It's an increasingly polarised society and it's getting worse.
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MidnightPatrol · 21/07/2026 18:46

So pointlessly awful.

Just a completely unnecessary and violent end to a productive and principled life.

And at 78. She looks quite frail in recent images. Just eating lunch alone in her house.

Our public figures are increasingly vulnerable, and the polarisation of politics and demonisation of individuals is driving this kind of radicalisation.

LochKatrine · 21/07/2026 18:42

FuzzyPuffling · 21/07/2026 18:37

She was my MP when i lived in Kent, and I have never had a better one despite being on different sides of politics. Her letters were completely written in her "voice".

Rest in peace and rise in glory, Ann.

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She always sounded very authentic, didn't she? It wasn't about soundbites or getting power for her.

FuzzyPuffling · 21/07/2026 18:37

She was my MP when i lived in Kent, and I have never had a better one despite being on different sides of politics. Her letters were completely written in her "voice".

Rest in peace and rise in glory, Ann.

LochKatrine · 21/07/2026 18:35

Horrific, as pp have said. A 78 year old woman having a quiet lunch at home in Devon, then a man walks in and bludgeons her to death. I really hope that the first blow knocked her out and she didn't feel the other 20 .
So distressing. Poor Ann 🙏

DobbyTheHouseElk · 21/07/2026 18:26

I don’t think there are words for this brutal attack. Having lived very near to her house, it’s hard to explain just how remote Haytor is. Keeping her doors unlocked would be perfectly normal. Poor Ann.