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Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

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Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:10

Reported in The Telegraph that Labour is facing mounting pressure to change immigration laws immediately so that a child rapist freed from jail can be deported.

Shabir Ahmed, 73, was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail after being convicted of 30 child rape offences as part of the Rochdale grooming gang.

But on Thursday, the Pakistan-born rapist was released after serving 14 years.

Britain stripped him of his citizenship, but cannot currently deport him because of protections granted to Commonwealth immigrants such as Ahmed under the Immigration Act 1971.

On Thursday, Downing Street said the Prime Minister had asked Shabana Mahmood, the Home Secretary, to “consider what can be done” to deport Ahmed, describing his case as “particularly heinous”.

It comes after Andy Burnham, expected to succeed Sir Keir Starmer as prime minister, also vowed to “review all options” to deport the "vile criminal".

The amendment to Ms Mahmood’s immigration bill will propose rewriting the 1971 act to permit the removal of serious criminals such as Ahmed.

However, even if an amendment were to pass, two senior Pakistani government officials told The Telegraph that the country would not accept Ahmed back because he renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

They added that he posed a danger to Pakistani children.

If their claim is correct, it places Ahmed in the same situation as two other freed Pakistani ringleaders of the Rochdale grooming gang whom Pakistan has refused to take back.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/02/deport-foreign-born-child-rapists-demand-labour-mps/

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BIossomtoes · 03/07/2026 08:09

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:50

Apologies...I misunderstood. I thought pubs had been given permission to extend their opening hours. It's too early in the morning and I've not had my coffee yet 🙃

They have, it’s a one off exemption. You’re just derailing the thread.

I don’t understand why Ahmed was released before the end of his sentence either. Perhaps someone with knowledge of the justice system could explain? As I understand it the only place he could be deported to is Pakistan and their government is refusing to accept him. A change in law wouldn’t change that, diplomacy might.

Notmycircusnotmyotter · 03/07/2026 08:09

GarlicBiscuits · 03/07/2026 07:56

If Pakistan won’t take him back, then we stop all foreign aid, remittance, and visas to Pakistan until they agree to.

Exactly this

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 08:09

lljkk · 03/07/2026 07:22

I bet the young women of Pakistan are delighted at this prospect.

Little girls you mean ... though it sounds like Pakistan are protecting them by not accepting his potential deportation.

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Imdunfer · 03/07/2026 08:08

GarlicBiscuits · 03/07/2026 08:03

What I don’t understand is why this horrid man wants to stay in the UK anyway? He clearly hates British people and culture?

He's lived here since he was 20 years old and he is now 73.

Imdunfer · 03/07/2026 08:08

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 08:04

Well maybe the threat of the death sentence would deter him raping in Pakistan.

I doubt it, a rape conviction in Sharia law requires a male witness.

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 08:04

Imdunfer · 03/07/2026 08:00

I don't have any suggestion where he or any other rapist at the end of their sentence goes, but after 53 years here, sending him to prey on women in another country where his record will not be so traceable isn't it.

Well maybe the threat of the death sentence would deter him raping in Pakistan.

GarlicBiscuits · 03/07/2026 08:03

What I don’t understand is why this horrid man wants to stay in the UK anyway? He clearly hates British people and culture?

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 08:02

KindPinkEagle · 03/07/2026 08:00

They have been given permission by the government to extend licenced opening hours, but it's still the decision of local councils who approve alcohol licences to go along with it or not.

But no laws have been changed, just extensions to existing licensing hours if the local councils agree. That's always been the case, that an establishment can request extended hours to their existing licence but it usually takes time. On this occasion, the government has asked councils to do so but it's still the councils decision.

It's happened before for special events. The 2002 world cup held in Japan I was in the pub in the UK opening at 6am a couple of times. I was young then :)

Changing laws takes a lot of time.

Thank you for the explanation 🙂

KindPinkEagle · 03/07/2026 08:00

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:50

Apologies...I misunderstood. I thought pubs had been given permission to extend their opening hours. It's too early in the morning and I've not had my coffee yet 🙃

They have been given permission by the government to extend licenced opening hours, but it's still the decision of local councils who approve alcohol licences to go along with it or not.

But no laws have been changed, just extensions to existing licensing hours if the local councils agree. That's always been the case, that an establishment can request extended hours to their existing licence but it usually takes time. On this occasion, the government has asked councils to do so but it's still the councils decision.

It's happened before for special events. The 2002 world cup held in Japan I was in the pub in the UK opening at 6am a couple of times. I was young then :)

Changing laws takes a lot of time.

Imdunfer · 03/07/2026 08:00

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:55

So if we can't keep him banged up for life, where do you suggest he goes?

I don't have any suggestion where he or any other rapist at the end of their sentence goes, but after 53 years here, sending him to prey on women in another country where his record will not be so traceable isn't it.

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 08:00

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/07/2026 07:59

@Ihateboris they can keep them locked up if they chose to prosecute them the same way other criminal gangs that rape and prostitute children. But instead there is endless talk of religion and culture and none of criminality and organised crime! This gang leader has been making a lot of ££ whilst inside from his activities. These men are NOT ignorant barefooted peasants from a dusty one mule village in rural Pakistan! That is a racist assumption causing suicidal empathy by the British left

Agree, 100%

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/07/2026 07:59

@Ihateboris they can keep them locked up if they chose to prosecute them the same way other criminal gangs that rape and prostitute children. But instead there is endless talk of religion and culture and none of criminality and organised crime! This gang leader has been making a lot of ££ whilst inside from his activities. These men are NOT ignorant barefooted peasants from a dusty one mule village in rural Pakistan! That is a racist assumption causing suicidal empathy by the British left

PineappleSunrise · 03/07/2026 07:57

Can we also kick out all the men who have been drugging and raping their wives, or joining in raping drugged and raped women? Also, any police officers, judges, MPs, or doctors who are convicted of abusing women from positions of trust. Maybe they can all go to a distant and hard to reach island like Pitcairn.

GarlicBiscuits · 03/07/2026 07:56

If Pakistan won’t take him back, then we stop all foreign aid, remittance, and visas to Pakistan until they agree to.

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:55

Imdunfer · 03/07/2026 07:54

I don't agree with kicking him out. He has lived in this country for 53 years, the majority of his life.

If we couldn't persuade him in that time to live by our laws he's our problem, we shouldn't be dumping a serial rapist on another country's women.

So if we can't keep him banged up for life, where do you suggest he goes?

faithfultoGeorgeMichael · 03/07/2026 07:55

He said this in court, remember, he stood and shouted these words at the judge:

"We are the supreme race, not these white bastards"
"White people trained those girls to be advanced in sex"
"I curse you, I curse you at night I curse you and your families, your families will get it"

There is a racial element to it and they are wealthy gangsters, they are not worried about "losing face"

He has shown zero remorse and continues to harass the victims and their children.

Imdunfer · 03/07/2026 07:54

I don't agree with kicking him out. He has lived in this country for 53 years, the majority of his life.

If we couldn't persuade him in that time to live by our laws he's our problem, we shouldn't be dumping a serial rapist on another country's women.

Brunchatstephanies · 03/07/2026 07:50

I would argue this is exactly what special forces are for.

Drop them home.

bozo123 · 03/07/2026 07:50

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:25

I don't really understand why Ahmed was released after serving 14 years, given that he was sentenced to more than 20 years in jail and was convicted of 30 child rape offences.

Now we have a problem of what to do with him when he could have been safely locked up for another 6 years (given that he's already 73, that could be significant).

I can understand Pakistan's position in potentially not accepting his deportation, given that he moved to Britain as a boy and renounced his Pakistani citizenship “several decades ago”.

A senior Pakistani government source said, “Pakistan has maintained that someone who is not a Pakistani national cannot be allowed or accepted inside the country. Ahmed is considered a serious safeguarding risk because of his criminal past in the UK.

“How can someone with his criminality be deemed safe in a country like Pakistan? He poses as much danger to children in Pakistan as he would anywhere else".

Absolutely. If he’s a danger he should be locked up not set free abroad to prey on girls there.

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:50

KindPinkEagle · 03/07/2026 07:48

They haven't changed the licensing laws.

The law should be changed to kick him out though.

Apologies...I misunderstood. I thought pubs had been given permission to extend their opening hours. It's too early in the morning and I've not had my coffee yet 🙃

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:49

That is what I would like the government to explain- why this monster was released early when they knew he couldn’t be deported to Pakistan and would be a problem for the rest of his life to house safely.

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KindPinkEagle · 03/07/2026 07:48

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:40

If the law can be changed so quickly to allow pubs to open until 5am for the football, why can't they change this antiquated law so this monster can be sent back to Pakistan?

They haven't changed the licensing laws.

The law should be changed to kick him out though.

Ihateboris · 03/07/2026 07:47

ChefsKisser · 03/07/2026 07:45

Put him on a boat and push him out to sea for all I care.

we are so bloody soft on everyone in this country. This is a serious convicted rapist. Why did we release him early?

That's what I want to know? He's a rapist. If he'd committed rape in Pakistan he would have received the death penalty. Rape in the uk and you are released early. What the fuck. My blood is boiling.

ChefsKisser · 03/07/2026 07:45

Put him on a boat and push him out to sea for all I care.

we are so bloody soft on everyone in this country. This is a serious convicted rapist. Why did we release him early?

Twiglets1 · 03/07/2026 07:45

Serenity75 · 03/07/2026 07:28

But if Pakistan won’t take this person (and why should they) where would you send him?

There is nowhere to send him. Which is why I think he should have at least stayed in prison for his maximum term of 20 years.

He is not safe for little girls wherever he is.

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