Change law to kick out Rochdale rapist, No 10 urged

Furious. I read that he was ‘well behaved’ on the inside. Well, there weren’t any little girls for him to hurt in there were there? How well behaved will he be now he’s out and about back in the community.

Most Pakistani grooming gangs ideologically believe young white non-Muslim girls are 'slags' who deserve to be raped.

It's extremely rare that they would target Muslim girls, and even more unlikely in Pakistan where they would face the death penalty.

But I agree that he's still probably too much of a risk to others - let's give him the justice he would have got in Pakistan.

Either Labour deport him and his ilk, or a Reform/Restore Govt will.

In the UK of course they say that’s the case (albeit, it wasn’t only white girls who were abused) But are you suggesting pedophiles returning to Pakistan wouldn’t target Pakistani children? That’s a bold suggestion.

There is also the question of whether girls within that community were being abused but have culturally found it more difficult to report.

He was a taxi driver. There was never any drive to import taxi drivers. Never.

He did fuck-all to contribute to UK industry, care homes or the economy.

He drove taxis which can really be done by any UK citizen or ya' know, people could find an alternative mode of transport if a taxi isn't available.

And he raped English children in that taxi.

Dozens.

His nickname in the child raping ring was 'Daddy'

Are you suggesting I should be grateful that he immigrated to the UK and drove a taxi when he fancied?

That he had multiple children that were at the same time as him, using all the benefits of living in the UK, like free healthcare, education, the Police force and child social services that ignored his raping, the fucking expensive trial that he caused because he wouldn't plead guilty of raping English girls because he didn't believe it was rape..

Because English children are sluts who are just begging to have a dirty, sweaty man several decades older than them force his penis into their vagina, anus or mouth in the back of his taxi or on a mattress in a van, or in a dirty flat while he literally spits on them?

You need to have a word with yourself and have some actual knowledge about what immigration policies were for.

And realise a taxi driver was never in any way contributing even slightly towards what they took out from the UK system. Especially when they had multiple children.

Surely, they could find something else to charge him with? Then put him back inside until he dies.

We can care about both. Why allow this man to indirectly do more damage to women and girls via cancelling millions of pounds worth of aid aimed at helping them?

Hopefully a solution can be found that doesn't entail that.

Maybe they’re both important. I think they are.

Yes, thank you. Your posts have been very helpful.

Aw, thank you.

He HAS had his citizenship revoked. If he was Shamina Begum's age he could be deported under the Immigration Act 2016, however because he came to the UK before 1973 it is the Immigration Act 1971 which applies.

Hopefully the government can amend the current act so that it revokes the relevant clauses in the 1971 Act and makes the changes retrospective.

So the question is which is more important to Britain? The safety of British girls or the education of Pakastani girls?

Thanks for all your informative and calm posts @KindPinkEagle

Foreign aid to Pakistan is £133 million, of which £130 million is targeted to girls’ education initiatives.

Sadly we cannot kick out our own devil's; but we can kick out foreign ones.
You could vote for a 'tougher on crime' government if you want these people to have harsher punishments.

Make them accept him. We give Pakistan undreds of millions per year. They need to take back the criminal Pakastanis

Ok thanks, makes sense.

Yes. I think it may take a little time but I think the UK and Pakistan governments will collaborate and he'll be gone.

Though I imagine Pakistan may agree and say only in this case so as not to open doors.

With immigration and crime being such a hot topic in the UK and leading to public disorder, the UK has a case to say not only is he not wanted here, the government could not keep him safe.

He's currently in staffed 24/7 accommodation on a tag but that's unsustainable in the longer-term.

There's so much governmental and public opposition, he'll be hunted down so you're looking at keeping him alone in a property (other offenders in a hostel would expose him and/or attack him themselves ) with staff and it's very difficult to keep a location confidential. Plus the risk of SM warriors thinking they know where he is and attacking individuals or properties that have nothing to do with him.

There is no way he can go back to a normal life.

Of course, the other possibility is they recall him to prison on some kind of spurious breach of his licence and the government hope he dies in the next 7 years before they have to release him again with no plan of how to keep him safe nor would he be subject to any kind of probation.

This wouldn’t be an issue if he was still in prison and serving the sentence he was given. Then the law about deportation could be amended prior to his release in however many years to come.

He's been released six years early.

You seem confused.

A poster was querying why he hasn't served his whole sentence (when he has) and you said 'few offenders serve their whole sentence, they get various discounts for various things'.

Which they don't at all.

In regards to you mentioning guilty pleas, At sentencing a judge can take off time for an early guilty plea as that shows some accountability and saves the public purse the expense of a trial and saves victims from having to testify.

But that whatever sentence given is the sentence given and the person serves that sentence with no discounts because that doesn't even exist as a possibility.

He was sentenced to 22 years and 19 years to run concurrently. As a sex offender with a sentence over 4 years. it was always the case he would serve 2/3 of 22 years in custody and the remaining on licence in the community.

He hasn't been released early. He hasn't been given discounts for anything. He's been released on his release date. It would be illegal to keep him in prison when he's served the custodial part of his sentence.

And sentence reduction for a guilty plea is completely irrelevant in this case since it never happened because he pled not guilty and put traumatised victims and the public purse through an expensive trial.

Have the other two men (child rapists) who were released been deported yet? I'm local to Rochdale and unsure if they are still living here. I think they may still be?

I do remember that the ban on PIA flying into the UK was lifted partially because of negotiations to get them deported (PIA had a crash which lead to the discovery that many of their pilots weren't qualified- the airline was banned on landing in the UK on safety grounds).

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/24/pakistan-airlines-restarts-flights-ban-fake-pilot-licences/

I think the term "grooming gang" isn't appropriate and they should be called what they are- rapists.

He should die in prison, make it easy send him back to prison for a full life term

Do you think he’ll end up being deported @KindPinkEagle?

Rochdale is 30% non-white and yet 100% of the girls Shabir Ahmed raped were white.

He shouted at the judge after his sentence that he hated white people. He's on record saying all white girls deserve to be raped.

And some on here still think race has nothing to do with his crimes.