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Do you want a change of leader?

214 replies

Arewethereyetarewe · 20/06/2026 07:26

BBC are predicting the PM should stand down. I know this is not news, but why can we not have a period of stability?

Andy Burnham is much lefter in terms of policies and may not follow the manifesto Labour got in on.

Left or right the country needs a longer term plan.

What do others think?

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menopausequeen · 21/06/2026 03:20

Yes I’d like Kemi Badenhoch

MustardBear · 21/06/2026 03:00

I didn’t vote Labour in the last election, but I want Kier Starmer to stay. I even contacted my local (Labour) MP to say as much when the whole Wes Streeting thing blew up a few weeks ago.
I agree with the majority on this thread. We need stability. This is not the time for egotistical career moves.

TheFormidableMrsC · 21/06/2026 02:34

I really do not want a change of leader. I hope Kier Starmer stays put. We cannot have yet more instability.

Dragonscaledaisy · 21/06/2026 00:11

Lalgarh · 20/06/2026 14:28

There's been mutterings that Burnham would have ex transport secretary Louise Haigh as chancellor.

This throws all the upfront sexist "Rachel from accounts" stuff about Reeves into sharp relief. She may have finessed her CV over her role in the bank of England, but Haigh has no economics or finance background at all. Let alone that she had to resign because of lying about that lost phone

Reeves didn't 'finesse' her CV - she lied. She was woefully out of her depth as chancellor and should have been fired long ago.

RaphaelDidIt · 21/06/2026 00:06

Id want keir starmer to stay. I don't want more personality politics. I've not heard anything from Andy Burnham about what he'd do differently - he doesn't have a vision - other than not be KS. I don't think he's got a grasp on how difficult everything is right now. I worry about his fiscal policies and international relations.

I don't think he's a grown up. Being a regional mayor isn't the same as leading a country.

I'm also frustrated. Party fractions and factions will mean Farage will win.

Middle of the road is what the country needs. And we should stick with KS.

SpinelessBastardsAll · 21/06/2026 00:06

No, we need to buckle down.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2026 00:03

MulberryBrandy · 20/06/2026 21:37

I mean it feels like a reality programme where someone is lurking behind the scenes and they go in and nick things and mess everyone up .....

Cough <<Putin>> Cough.

TooBigForMyBoots · 21/06/2026 00:02

TheAutumnCrow · 20/06/2026 21:05

No.

The BBC and Laura bloody Kuenssberg & pals can fuck off. And take Fiona Bruce with them just because.

I've watched GB "News" since before he was elected. They hate Labour so much they'd rather see the UK burn 🔥 than make any progress under a Labour government. Doesn't matter who's in charge of it.

Slawbans · 21/06/2026 00:00

Burnham is too left wing to be elected in this country. Starmer was elected on a centrist position. Changing tack midway through is anti democratic and labour will pay for it. And we’ll end up with Nigel. So.. Irresponsible

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/06/2026 23:54

He's been undermined by the MSM since day one and portrayed as the devil incarnateAnyone thinking that any other leader won't receive the same treatment from our biased media and frothing social media is naive.

💯 @Figgygal.
👏👏👏

yellowsunglasses · 20/06/2026 22:08

I would categorise myself as being reasonably left wing, and in an ideal world I do like Burnham and what he suggests.

Having said that, this country needs some stability. We had duck duck prime minister towards the end of the Tory’s era and it was chaos. No one knew if they were coming or going and everyone wanted to do something different to show they were a good change. It was ridiculous and it brought massive instability to the country (hello liz truss)

Im not Starmer’s biggest fan, but he has kept us well out of international conflicts that we definitely do not want to be involved with, all whilst keeping Trump from having a hissy fit about us. He’s also reasonably kept to their manifesto with things like the Renters Rights Act. I do think his problem is largely that you can’t please everyone. I think Labour need to pick, are we going further right with this tough immigration stance? Or are we going further left with these generous welfare promises? As it stands they’re just pissing off both sides. I don’t think it works, but for what it’s worth I don’t think that is personally down to Starmer either.

If anyone needs to go it’s Reeves 🤷🏻‍♀️

MulberryBrandy · 20/06/2026 21:37

I mean it feels like a reality programme where someone is lurking behind the scenes and they go in and nick things and mess everyone up .....

TheAutumnCrow · 20/06/2026 21:19

MulberryBrandy · 20/06/2026 21:11

And don't even mention Chris Mason - who seems to exist solely on generating huge amounts of froth as if he needs it to feed on ... 🐛

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Oh yes, Frothy McFrothface Mason. He can fuck off as well.

MulberryBrandy · 20/06/2026 21:13

mullers1977 · 20/06/2026 21:02

Exactly this and always they’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker… Starmer is very decent and definitely the best we have on offer as a country… but ‘they’ will read and believe the propaganda!

You have inspired me to write to my MP ... what else can we do?

MulberryBrandy · 20/06/2026 21:11

And don't even mention Chris Mason - who seems to exist solely on generating huge amounts of froth as if he needs it to feed on ... 🐛

TheAutumnCrow · 20/06/2026 21:05

No.

The BBC and Laura bloody Kuenssberg & pals can fuck off. And take Fiona Bruce with them just because.

mullers1977 · 20/06/2026 21:02

rumred · 20/06/2026 07:48

No. The media have pushed for discord and change. They don't have most people's wellbeing in mind, being male and very rich.

Exactly this and always they’ve fallen for it hook, line and sinker… Starmer is very decent and definitely the best we have on offer as a country… but ‘they’ will read and believe the propaganda!

1dayatatime · 20/06/2026 20:58

MrsPapillon · 20/06/2026 18:05

I’m past caring. We’re screwed. The country is bankrupt and there’s no magic man (or indeed, woman) who will be able to wave a magic wand and fix it without raising taxes.

And if they did, everyone would wail and vote them out, so they’ll never be brave enough to do it.

Blunt but accurate.

The only point I would change is that there are solutions to fix the problem namely cut Government spending and increase taxation and reduce national debt, except no one is going to vote for a candidate with those policies, so that they will forever remain a candidate and never a politician and so never have the chance to implement them.

Figgygal · 20/06/2026 18:06

No because they were supposed to be better than that
He's been undermined by the MSM since day one and portrayed as the devil incarnate
Anyone thinking that any other leader won't receive the same treatment from our biased media and frothing social media is naive. Also, we're going to have the hypocrites that are the conservative party demanding a general election if labour tried to replace the prime minister without one
This nonsense is just going to go on and on and the country will continue to stagnate as there's too much focus on the politics and not doing the actual job of government. In fact, I will go as far as to say that this country is at the moment at least ungovernable

MrsPapillon · 20/06/2026 18:05

I’m past caring. We’re screwed. The country is bankrupt and there’s no magic man (or indeed, woman) who will be able to wave a magic wand and fix it without raising taxes.

And if they did, everyone would wail and vote them out, so they’ll never be brave enough to do it.

Didimum · 20/06/2026 18:02

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 20/06/2026 17:38

I don't know. I think it's a sign that pms are beholden to their backbenchers.

I've never been a fan of KS but I absolutely dread AB and a slide to the left and all the chaos that will follow.

And another huge proportion fear a slide to the right. And another huge proportion fear that a centrist achieves nothing meaningful and ‘flip flops’.

No government can combat the challenges that the UK is facing. It’s not possible. Any government will either be widely unpopular from the get go or fall into widely unpopular within 6-12 months. The electorate need to stop chasing the shiny next thing that will apparently ‘solve all our problems’, because it isn’t going to happen.

It’s the equivalent of a shopping addiction.

TooBigForMyBoots · 20/06/2026 17:43

No.

I hated the revolving door of Tory PMs. I hate the same shit under Labour. I'm tired of knee-jerk reactions. I'm tired of manufactured divisions fucking up our country.Angry

I want stability. The UK needs stability.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 20/06/2026 17:38

Didimum · 20/06/2026 15:08

The rapid turnover of PMs evidences that the country is ungovernable, not that parties are not up to the job.

I don't know. I think it's a sign that pms are beholden to their backbenchers.

I've never been a fan of KS but I absolutely dread AB and a slide to the left and all the chaos that will follow.

Lisanne55 · 20/06/2026 17:36

No. The last 10 years have been absolutely ridiculous with the number of PMs & so much damage has been done. We need stability. The prospect of Andy Burham parachuting in as PM is putting me off voting Labour ever again.

Tbh, the media has a lot to answer for. The anti-Starmer stuff started straight after the election.

MulberryBrandy · 20/06/2026 17:29

As others have said - this thread is really good! It makes me feel that it's not me that's off in their thinking. It is good to have a PM with a good brain, a decent, thoughtful man - Starmer has made mistakes but there are already results. And, yes internationally it has been good to be represented by an eminent lawyer - I am thinking of him going around Bucha, in Ukraine, where there were horrific war crimes.