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Healey Resignation

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 12:39

John Healey resigns! Another nail in SKS's coffin, or the only way to force a showdown?

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BruceGrobbelaar · 12/06/2026 04:41

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BIossomtoes · 12/06/2026 00:10

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 23:31

I won't sign up.

What I see is this: "She repeatedly ruled out pre-election deals or pacts, saying 'no, no, no' to propping up Reform. Shipman clarified her 'no's targeted pacts, not post-election conservative support, while opponents like Ed Davey warned 'Vote Tory get Farage' and right-wing voices accused a 'uni-party' alliance."

If that's correct, then it's Shipman's interpretation, not her words. I tried to search widely and all I can find is X and other SM posts repeating the above interpretation but Kemi herself repeatedly saying that she wouldn't do any deal.

Copilot's summary:

According to The Spectator’s write‑up of the event, when Shipman asked her about any possible arrangement with Reform UK, she:

  • Responded “no, no, no, no, no” to every option — coalition, pact, confidence‑and‑supply, or mutual stand‑downs.
  • Said that ambiguity about deals would “send mixed messages” to voters.
  • Argued that Reform has “quite a lot of Left‑wing ideas” — more benefits, more nationalisation, a bigger state — and therefore is not compatible with Conservative principles.
  • Later publicly rejected a Spectator suggestion that she had left the door open, calling that interpretation “bulls---” and insisting she had said no.

In short: Shipman pushed; she shut it down.

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Your loss. If you’d rather believe AI 🤷‍♀️

1dayatatime · 11/06/2026 23:52

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There's no way Starmer would axe Reeves. There is very strong historical precedent that if a PM axes his Chancellor then they will follow very quickly.

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 23:31

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 23:26

No. I put my email address in, you can do the same.

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I won't sign up.

What I see is this: "She repeatedly ruled out pre-election deals or pacts, saying 'no, no, no' to propping up Reform. Shipman clarified her 'no's targeted pacts, not post-election conservative support, while opponents like Ed Davey warned 'Vote Tory get Farage' and right-wing voices accused a 'uni-party' alliance."

If that's correct, then it's Shipman's interpretation, not her words. I tried to search widely and all I can find is X and other SM posts repeating the above interpretation but Kemi herself repeatedly saying that she wouldn't do any deal.

Copilot's summary:

According to The Spectator’s write‑up of the event, when Shipman asked her about any possible arrangement with Reform UK, she:

  • Responded “no, no, no, no, no” to every option — coalition, pact, confidence‑and‑supply, or mutual stand‑downs.
  • Said that ambiguity about deals would “send mixed messages” to voters.
  • Argued that Reform has “quite a lot of Left‑wing ideas” — more benefits, more nationalisation, a bigger state — and therefore is not compatible with Conservative principles.
  • Later publicly rejected a Spectator suggestion that she had left the door open, calling that interpretation “bulls---” and insisting she had said no.

In short: Shipman pushed; she shut it down.

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 23:26

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 23:24

I don't want to sign up. Can you post a copy of a screen?

No. I put my email address in, you can do the same.

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 23:24

I don't want to sign up. Can you post a copy of a screen?

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 23:17

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 21:32

Loving the fantasy cabinet. No way in a million years will there be a coalition. Badenoch has said this week in The Spectator

Badenoch says the Tories could win and claims there is a ‘high chance’ she will become prime minister. But asked explicitly whether she would be prepared to put Farage into No. 10 if he fell short of a majority, she made it clear the answer is likely yes, as long as he pursues conservative policies: ‘This country cannot have another left-wing government. This is the most left-wing parliament we have ever had.’

Could you please share the link to this? Spectator is for subscribers only.

What I managed to find it this:
Badenoch: I won’t do a deal with Reform

ETA: I will change my view if I hear Kemi saying she'd do a deal with Reform or Restore. I hope she didn't and it's media misinformation, but who knows

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 22:46

SallySharp · 11/06/2026 22:44

Back out now Andy, stay on as a successful Mayor. Wait for a GE and be a respectable candidate. You look a chancer at this moment.
It is going to be hell in the cabinet. And a 3 or 4 way election. Back away.

I presume he can back away or would his name still be on the ballot?

Too late.

SallySharp · 11/06/2026 22:44

Back out now Andy, stay on as a successful Mayor. Wait for a GE and be a respectable candidate. You look a chancer at this moment.
It is going to be hell in the cabinet. And a 3 or 4 way election. Back away.

I presume he can back away or would his name still be on the ballot?

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 22:02

TheKittenswithMittens · 11/06/2026 21:56

With the bookies, labour are 1/7. Conservative 1000/1, same odds as Count Binface.

I don’t think it matters. It really is a case of don’t interrupt your enemy rn

Kemi can sit back, relax and wait for the fall out.

TheKittenswithMittens · 11/06/2026 21:56

With the bookies, labour are 1/7. Conservative 1000/1, same odds as Count Binface.

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:55

Wes in preference to Angela, please. PLEASE.

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:52

The bar is low. Correct spelling and the 2x table would be a plus.

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NoWordForFluffy · 11/06/2026 21:50

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:48

Still voting for Count BinFace.

His manifesto was surprisingly good!

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:48

Still voting for Count BinFace.

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EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 21:47

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:43

Andy has 10% lead. The only possible scenario of him not winning would be Restore to stand down their candidate last min. Can't see this happening.

But even without Andy there would be contest, Wes and Angela would try. Again, this doesn't matter anymore, Keir lost all authority, he won't be able to pull this together.

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Yep

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:46

Actually literate, numerate and competent would be an unexpected bonus after years of imbecilic politics, of all the denominations.

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nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:46

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:41

I don’t have an issue with conservatives and Reform.

If it gets these incompetent twats out I would support an election now. Labour will cling onto the end though whilst causing untold damage.

I do. I very much do have an issue with Reform. And I hate Labour so much because they make Reform win.

My dream coalition would be for centrist Labour to do coalition with Tory. I know this won't ever happen, but girl can dream

PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:45

Conservatives cannot get anywhere near power without Farage

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:44

I don't want Farage anywhere in the picture. Firmly centrist, right leaning describes me. Competent first would be nice.

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PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:43

Trayfevers · 11/06/2026 21:39

What if Burnham doesn’t get voted in as an MP and Reform win the seat? If I was in that area I wouldn’t be voting Labour in after today’s headlines. Maybe that’s their plan!

The right wing vote will be split and I believe give the seat to Burnham.

nearlylovemyusername · 11/06/2026 21:43

Trayfevers · 11/06/2026 21:39

What if Burnham doesn’t get voted in as an MP and Reform win the seat? If I was in that area I wouldn’t be voting Labour in after today’s headlines. Maybe that’s their plan!

Andy has 10% lead. The only possible scenario of him not winning would be Restore to stand down their candidate last min. Can't see this happening.

But even without Andy there would be contest, Wes and Angela would try. Again, this doesn't matter anymore, Keir lost all authority, he won't be able to pull this together.

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Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 21:42

@BIossomtoes, you and I are both old and cynical enough to read all those statements with a kilo of salt!

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PropertyD · 11/06/2026 21:41

I don’t have an issue with conservatives and Reform.

If it gets these incompetent twats out I would support an election now. Labour will cling onto the end though whilst causing untold damage.