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So who are you rootin' for at Makersfield?

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NEGUY82 · 08/06/2026 16:45

Just wondering who everyone hopes will win??

I'm hoping for a Burnham win but as long as it's not Kenyon I can live with it.

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ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:24

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:19

Let's see, but it has happened before. They get a bounce in the polls and decide to go for it to get a new mandate from the public. Brown chickened out, May went for it. Either way, its the beginning of the end when they start changing leaders.

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May’s decision is now roundly seen as politically incoherent. I never understood why she took the risk. Brown was risk adverse. But on any account, the polls for Labour are abysmal, but the majority is huge. If you can find me a comparable situation in British political history where a leader did this, then it might be a more serious point.

redboxer321 · 10/06/2026 09:22

I just hope future generations find a better way to do politics, if indeed politics needs to be done at all.
I think the fact that parliamentary democracy is considered the best system we've come up with thus far says it all about the human race.

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:21

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Don’t be sorry. On its current performance there is more than enough left wing Labour MPs, who like their seats. It will not happen, simply because there is zero political advantage. And political advantage is something that all politicians, whether left or right, are keen to keep

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:19

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:14

Sorry I do think that the idea of an imminent election is for the birds. There is no political advantage in it for the leader whoever that is.

Let's see, but it has happened before. They get a bounce in the polls and decide to go for it to get a new mandate from the public. Brown chickened out, May went for it. Either way, its the beginning of the end when they start changing leaders.

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:19

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That’s a good article and written by someone who knows what the issues are. Yes it will be the usual Labour blood oath politics. But I think Starmer is the loser from that and it will hasten his departure

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 09:18

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:15

You were suggesting a visit from the men in grey suits not long ago, now you're saying Starmer will stay and fight a contest. Make your mind up.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Starmer thought he could win a contest. Its almost comical.

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I think he’ll try to stay, like Thatcher and Johnson did. In any case Streeting will fire the starting pistol on a contest. He reckons he’s got 81+ letters of support already.

Paravion011 · 10/06/2026 09:18

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ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:16

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But we live in Halisham’s elective dictatorship. What you think should happen will not happen. The Labour Party will regard Burnham as legitimate if he elected to their system. Now voters may punish that in 2029, but there little else to suggest what you think should happen will happen

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:15

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 09:10

Highly unlikely as Starmer has said he would stand if there was a challenge to his leadership.

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You were suggesting a visit from the men in grey suits not long ago, now you're saying Starmer will stay and fight a contest. Make your mind up.

Although I wouldn't be surprised if Starmer thought he could win a contest. Its almost comical.

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 09:14

MellowZebra · 10/06/2026 09:12

Don't do what? Call a GE?

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Put him in as leader.

Paravion011 · 10/06/2026 09:14

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ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:14

Sorry I do think that the idea of an imminent election is for the birds. There is no political advantage in it for the leader whoever that is.

MellowZebra · 10/06/2026 09:12

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 09:11

If he wins I’d be surprised if Labour don’t do it.

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Don't do what? Call a GE?

ByGraptharsHammer · 10/06/2026 09:12

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 09:10

Highly unlikely as Starmer has said he would stand if there was a challenge to his leadership.

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This was the same tactic that Wes Streeting met and it is not a bad one. Labour I think have only had one coronation in office and that was Gordon Brown because no one else would stand. Otherwise the Labour Party system is strong in elections being required, and a leader’s legitimacy is established from that.

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 09:11

MellowZebra · 10/06/2026 09:05

AB has to win a leadership bid first. He is not universally popular amongst the membership. Many further to the left dislike him rather for not being left wing enough. Many centrists dislike him for being too left wing.

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If he wins I’d be surprised if Labour don’t do it.

MellowZebra · 10/06/2026 09:11

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:08

There are rumours and leaks that there will be a coronation to avoid a contest.

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I suppose if AB offers Streeting a bribe, that could happen. But I don't think it will. The membership would be furious.

Eta: and of course BIossomtoes is correct.

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 09:10

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:08

There are rumours and leaks that there will be a coronation to avoid a contest.

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Highly unlikely as Starmer has said he would stand if there was a challenge to his leadership.

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:08

MellowZebra · 10/06/2026 09:05

AB has to win a leadership bid first. He is not universally popular amongst the membership. Many further to the left dislike him rather for not being left wing enough. Many centrists dislike him for being too left wing.

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There are rumours and leaks that there will be a coronation to avoid a contest.

Paravion011 · 10/06/2026 09:06

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Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:05

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 09:03

It wasn’t in 2022. Two changes and no GE for nearly two years.

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Oh and it went so well for the tories didn't it. Crack on.

MellowZebra · 10/06/2026 09:05

EasternStandard · 10/06/2026 08:59

Well we’re likely to find out what that means in power. As for a GE we’ll see what pressure brings.

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AB has to win a leadership bid first. He is not universally popular amongst the membership. Many further to the left dislike him rather for not being left wing enough. Many centrists dislike him for being too left wing.

redboxer321 · 10/06/2026 09:04

For the love of god, what do I have to do to get an explanation?!
I see the sense of outrage is high on this thread.
While the real insult has been allowed to slide by most.

Nuthatch26 · 10/06/2026 09:04

BIossomtoes · 10/06/2026 09:02

Yes, feel free to report it if you believe it falls foul of the guidelines.

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Odd way to debate.
I'm not into reporting posts, more impact when they are left to stand imo.