So who are you rootin' for at Makersfield?

Boomer55 · 13/06/2026 16:30

NEGUY82 · 08/06/2026 16:45

Just wondering who everyone hopes will win??

I'm hoping for a Burnham win but as long as it's not Kenyon I can live with it.

I don’t live there, so I don't really care. Hopefully locals will get out and vote, and get the best candidate.

Papyrophile · 11/06/2026 12:46

John Healey has just resigned, and he is a Starmer loyalist. This appears to be careering off the rails. Times Radio is suggesting it's the biggest crisis yet. And allied to what's happening in Northern Ireland, it looks very destabilising for the Government.

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 12:26

MulberryBrandy · 11/06/2026 12:22

Bear in mind what this former Conservative PM said - and be careful what you wish for.

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Who Burnham? Does he worry you?

MulberryBrandy · 11/06/2026 12:22

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 12:12

It looks like you’re about to. Starmer will be gone if Burnham wins and maybe even if he doesn’t.

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Bear in mind what this former Conservative PM said - and be careful what you wish for.

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 12:12

MulberryBrandy · 11/06/2026 12:10

It seems that people are unrealistically impatient - when they want to protest against a government that has been in less than two years, and that inherited entrenched problems and underfunding.

I think you are correct that to make a difference makes one unelectable. This can be the result of living in a democracy. We can't keep on changing the Prime Minister - as John Major said recently.

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It looks like you’re about to. Starmer will be gone if Burnham wins and maybe even if he doesn’t.

MulberryBrandy · 11/06/2026 12:10

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 11:21

I didn't mean you. I should have said: "One presumably thinks one can make a difference if one enters politics and I don't."

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It seems that people are unrealistically impatient - when they want to protest against a government that has been in less than two years, and that inherited entrenched problems and underfunding.

I think you are correct that to make a difference makes one unelectable. This can be the result of living in a democracy. We can't keep on changing the Prime Minister - as John Major said recently.

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 11:21

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 11:18

No I said the opposite. I said I’m glad politicians are there that I can vote for. Who are not Starmer / Labour.

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I didn't mean you. I should have said: "One presumably thinks one can make a difference if one enters politics and I don't."

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 11:18

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 11:02

Like I say, in the current political system it would make me unelectable.
You presumably think you can make a difference to enter politics too and I don't.

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No I said the opposite. I said I’m glad politicians are there that I can vote for. Who are not Starmer / Labour.

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 11:02

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 09:23

Ok if no one is saying this then you have a gap to do as suggested in your pp, you could run on it

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Like I say, in the current political system it would make me unelectable.
You presumably think you can make a difference to enter politics too and I don't.

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PP explained quite clearly what happened. Perhaps stop badgering her?

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Watdidyousay · 11/06/2026 09:25

TallSturdyGirls · 11/06/2026 09:13

If you don't understand that mortgage rates rose in that time directly because of Truss there's absolutely no point in discussing with you. You are just on the wind up.

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EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 09:23

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 09:11

To act in the long term rather than pursuing short term wins so they can stay in power. To try to work with other countries to make this world less of a living hell for millions of other people and many millions more other beings. It's a very big ask and would be in some ways like trying to turn the clock back but I think the human race has gone very wrong and all we do is tinker round the edges while waiting for the global crisis to worsen which will result in who knows what.

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Ok if no one is saying this then you have a gap to do as suggested in your pp, you could run on it

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If you don't understand that mortgage rates rose in that time directly because of Truss there's absolutely no point in discussing with you. You are just on the wind up.

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 09:11

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 08:37

Not sure about that but what do they need to do in your view?

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To act in the long term rather than pursuing short term wins so they can stay in power. To try to work with other countries to make this world less of a living hell for millions of other people and many millions more other beings. It's a very big ask and would be in some ways like trying to turn the clock back but I think the human race has gone very wrong and all we do is tinker round the edges while waiting for the global crisis to worsen which will result in who knows what.

MulberryBrandy · 11/06/2026 09:05

Going back to the question on this Thread... I haven't heard the Lib Dems mentioned at all. I see that the Tory is mentioned about twice - for coming over well on QT - but this is another huge issue. It is the Conservatives that Reform continue to threaten the most.

Northermcharn · 11/06/2026 09:00

Additup · 11/06/2026 08:54

You are wrong.
Labour don't hate you (and me and my family), they love you because you're there to milk. As proven in the leaked WhatsApp between Pat Mcfadden and Mandleson where the question Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others? was discussed.

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Oh yes. You're right.

Additup · 11/06/2026 08:54

Northermcharn · 11/06/2026 08:46

Well done Blossom. Great connection. I do. Labour also hate people like me my family, and my friends. That's people who pay taxes, people who have businesses and employ other people. ie, Working people. People who work. We are much poorer and feel more helpless about the future, whilst for eg. benefit claimants are richer on our cash and pay no tax (even if they receive over 12-13k in benefits - unlike us working people).

Fck Labour. I'd like Starmer to stay PM til we get rid of Labour though, changing to the performative jogging little twerp brought up in a nice Cheshire village does not help.

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You are wrong.
Labour don't hate you (and me and my family), they love you because you're there to milk. As proven in the leaked WhatsApp between Pat Mcfadden and Mandleson where the question Who can we tax in order to pay benefits to others? was discussed.

Northermcharn · 11/06/2026 08:46

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 08:33

You responded to someone who literally said she hated Labour nine minutes ago.

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Well done Blossom. Great connection. I do. Labour also hate people like me my family, and my friends. That's people who pay taxes, people who have businesses and employ other people. ie, Working people. People who work. We are much poorer and feel more helpless about the future, whilst for eg. benefit claimants are richer on our cash and pay no tax (even if they receive over 12-13k in benefits - unlike us working people).

Fck Labour. I'd like Starmer to stay PM til we get rid of Labour though, changing to the performative jogging little twerp brought up in a nice Cheshire village does not help.

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 08:37

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 08:35

And I suspect they too will fail. They might do worse or they might do better than this Labour government but nobody's got any real answers. They can't because if they really faced up to what we as a human race need to do, they'd never get into power.

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Not sure about that but what do they need to do in your view?

redboxer321 · 11/06/2026 08:35

EasternStandard · 11/06/2026 08:33

Luckily there are politicians who do just that and we can vote for them instead of Starmer and Labour.

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And I suspect they too will fail. They might do worse or they might do better than this Labour government but nobody's got any real answers. They can't because if they really faced up to what we as a human race need to do, they'd never get into power.

BIossomtoes · 11/06/2026 08:33

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You responded to someone who literally said she hated Labour nine minutes ago.