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Nicola Sturgeon living in England

243 replies

TalkToTheHand123 · 31/05/2026 14:52

Is she claiming asylum? She must now realise what a great country England is after spending all those years trying to destroy the country. She is most welcome to pop rounds for a cuppa and a natter.

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MrsHattie · 31/05/2026 21:09

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 21:07

I'm surprised she's not further away! When the news broke about PM the first thing I said to DP was that I bet she was at the airport as we speak escaping to her property in Spain.

(I don't know if she has a house in Spain I just imagine the she does)

When you have a camper van, you can go almost anywhere quite easily.

Violinist64 · 31/05/2026 21:09

Gwenhwyfar · 31/05/2026 20:59

Because most of them want Ireland to remain independent.
You are arguing that people who want their country to be independent of England shouldn't live in England, aren't you?

Not at all. My only argument is that, if MPs from the other three nations that make up the United Kingdom are able to vote on matters that only affect England, English MPs should be able to vote on matters that only affect the other countries. More sensibly, only MPs from England should vote on solely English matters in line the same way as the MPs from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland vote on their own issues. This would be the fairest way. As it happens, l think we are stronger together, which is why the union has generally worked for so long. In any case, almost all of us have ancestry from each of the four nations, some extremely close, wherever we are born. Why can’t we accept each other as we are?

MrsHattie · 31/05/2026 21:08

Gwenhwyfar · 31/05/2026 20:59

Because most of them want Ireland to remain independent.
You are arguing that people who want their country to be independent of England shouldn't live in England, aren't you?

Who Is it you think doesn’t want Ireland to remain independent? I’m not sure where you’re going with this.
No I’m not arguing people can’t live here if they want to be independent, I’m saying it’s hypocritical and funny when they do. Especially if they’ve made a living going on about the evils of a country and want a border with England and then move there, do you not find it funny?

Amberlynnswashcloth · 31/05/2026 21:07

I'm surprised she's not further away! When the news broke about PM the first thing I said to DP was that I bet she was at the airport as we speak escaping to her property in Spain.

(I don't know if she has a house in Spain I just imagine the she does)

Gwenhwyfar · 31/05/2026 21:02

"why has Scotland never unilaterally declared independence?"

For independence to be realised, it has to be recognised by the international community e.g. United Nations.

Gwenhwyfar · 31/05/2026 21:01

Violinist64 · 31/05/2026 20:55

I realise that but the Welsh and NI MPs tend not to be as vocal as certain Scottish MPs.

There is EVEL now, isn't there? (English votes for English laws).
Plaid Cymru MPs don't vote on matters that are devolved to Wales.

In any case, this goes back to the West Loathian question and is to do with the system where we have devolution, but not federalism. It's not the fault of Scottish MPs.

Gwenhwyfar · 31/05/2026 20:59

MrsHattie · 31/05/2026 19:59

She’s campaigning for independence?

No Irish people living in England are not hypocrites? Why would they be?

Because most of them want Ireland to remain independent.
You are arguing that people who want their country to be independent of England shouldn't live in England, aren't you?

Violinist64 · 31/05/2026 20:55

lifeinthelastlane · 31/05/2026 20:53

Same for Wales and NI too though

I realise that but the Welsh and NI MPs tend not to be as vocal as certain Scottish MPs.

lifeinthelastlane · 31/05/2026 20:53

Violinist64 · 31/05/2026 20:07

Yet Scottish MPs get a vote in things that only affect England whereas the same concession is not extended to English MPs when it comes to matters affecting Scotland.

Same for Wales and NI too though

ShetlandishMum · 31/05/2026 20:53

Tbh couldn't care less.

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 20:52

Look I don’t see why England has to take her seriously. She is a joke, played on Scotland.

MrsHattie · 31/05/2026 20:46

FKAT · 31/05/2026 20:36

Out of interest why has Scotland never unilaterally declared independence? The SNP have been in power for nearly 20 years. There is clearly a mandate for independence from a representative democracy perspective. Why wouldn't they just seize the opportunity.

Most countries who've gained independence haven't sat around asking nicely for sovereignity - they have declared independence themselves and sought to build a self-governing country.

Everyone knows it’s unworkable, It’s just standard identity politics grifting to get some power. If you keep people busy blaming the English for everything then you can indulge your passions for camper vans and pepper grinders without too much scrutiny,

SpottyAlpaca · 31/05/2026 20:46

FKAT · 31/05/2026 20:36

Out of interest why has Scotland never unilaterally declared independence? The SNP have been in power for nearly 20 years. There is clearly a mandate for independence from a representative democracy perspective. Why wouldn't they just seize the opportunity.

Most countries who've gained independence haven't sat around asking nicely for sovereignity - they have declared independence themselves and sought to build a self-governing country.

Unilateral Declarations of Independence (UDI) by small countries from much larger, richer & more powerful countries which control their militaries, financial systems & currencies tend not to end well. Ask the leaders of the Catalan independence declaration of 2017. Actually, that may be tricky because I believe they are still in prison…

The SNP led Scottish government tried to become independent via the legal democratic route of a referendum in 2014, of course. The Scottish people rejected it by 55% to 45%.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 31/05/2026 20:44

FKAT · 31/05/2026 20:36

Out of interest why has Scotland never unilaterally declared independence? The SNP have been in power for nearly 20 years. There is clearly a mandate for independence from a representative democracy perspective. Why wouldn't they just seize the opportunity.

Most countries who've gained independence haven't sat around asking nicely for sovereignity - they have declared independence themselves and sought to build a self-governing country.

Because they asked the electorate and the
majority voted against?

Ophir · 31/05/2026 20:44

FKAT · 31/05/2026 20:36

Out of interest why has Scotland never unilaterally declared independence? The SNP have been in power for nearly 20 years. There is clearly a mandate for independence from a representative democracy perspective. Why wouldn't they just seize the opportunity.

Most countries who've gained independence haven't sat around asking nicely for sovereignity - they have declared independence themselves and sought to build a self-governing country.

Because most people don’t want it

Even in this election more votes were cast for unionist parties

FKAT · 31/05/2026 20:36

Out of interest why has Scotland never unilaterally declared independence? The SNP have been in power for nearly 20 years. There is clearly a mandate for independence from a representative democracy perspective. Why wouldn't they just seize the opportunity.

Most countries who've gained independence haven't sat around asking nicely for sovereignity - they have declared independence themselves and sought to build a self-governing country.

MrsHattie · 31/05/2026 20:32

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 20:28

God who would read a book written by Nicola? It would just tell you off persistently for thinking wrong thoughts about her

She did write that short story on how Scotland is the richest country in the world ( if it wasn’t for the English) , a bit far fetched but she definitely has the imagination to make at least a good go at a writing career.

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 20:28

God who would read a book written by Nicola? It would just tell you off persistently for thinking wrong thoughts about her

SpottyAlpaca · 31/05/2026 20:26

Apparently she has moved to London to ‘start a literary career’. Nothing to do with all the corruption & scandals, then. Of course not.

I wonder what her first publication will be? ‘Ma wee book of how tae tell the truth’ by Nicola Sturgeon, perhaps?

MiddleAgedDread · 31/05/2026 20:23

Fucking tax dodger!
you can keep the witch

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 20:22

She is busy trying to refashion herself as a media personality in London. Except no one in England gives a damn what she thinks.

MrsHattie · 31/05/2026 20:20

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 20:08

Ghastly hypocrite. Shouldn’t she be making a case for Scotland? England doesn’t need washed up nationalists. We have enough of our own

I think what makes it all the more funnier is that Scottish people living in England wouldn’t get a vote in an independence referendum, something Nicola herself has campaigned for. Brilliant.

ByGraptharsHammer · 31/05/2026 20:08

Ghastly hypocrite. Shouldn’t she be making a case for Scotland? England doesn’t need washed up nationalists. We have enough of our own

Twisterlollies · 31/05/2026 20:08

Violinist64 · 31/05/2026 20:07

Yet Scottish MPs get a vote in things that only affect England whereas the same concession is not extended to English MPs when it comes to matters affecting Scotland.

This will not be responded to I’m guessing…

Violinist64 · 31/05/2026 20:07

crazeekat · 31/05/2026 19:26

It’s not England we hate it’s the government. Doesn’t matter what we vote for, if Westminster says ye or nae that’s what we get. Defo not England or the English for most of us and I say that genuinely.

Yet Scottish MPs get a vote in things that only affect England whereas the same concession is not extended to English MPs when it comes to matters affecting Scotland.

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