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If you’re gender critical…

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CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 19:09

…is that the most important point for you when you’re deciding who to vote for? More important than the NHS, the economy, foreign policy? If you’re a Labour voter, would you actively have a Reform government because Reform are gender critical?

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Sunshineandgrapefruit · 20/05/2026 20:28

No because Reform are the worst vote for Women full stop.

silenceinthemind · 20/05/2026 20:27

yes for me. I wouldn't actively vote for Reform in a GE but can't for Labour/Greens/LD because of their ludicrous TWAW stances.

TheBoyMayorOfPartridge · 20/05/2026 20:25

No, it’s an issue but not the main one. I went least worst option in the local elections which for me/ this area was Lib Dem - they had the majority since they took over from the Tories in the last general election but Reform were running in this latest council one, and actually came second, so I felt it important not to split the vote and risk them getting in.

I don’t like our MP’s (or councillor’s) stance on trans issues, but am mostly in alignment with him on other issues and have been impressed with some things he’s done.

At a national level it feels more important - but I wouldn’t abstain and wouldn’t vote Reform and otherwise feel a bit politically homeless - I’m not really sure what I’ll do yet.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/05/2026 20:25

Bonsaibaby · 20/05/2026 20:21

I find it interesting before Labour got in several posters were talking about holding their noses and voting Conservative, saying that under Labour everyone could self-identify etc etc and yet it was under Labour that the Supreme Court ruled that the terms 'man', 'woman' and 'sex' in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological sex. What did Conservatives actually ENACT to convince everyone they and right wing parties were interested in women?

Labour had the square root of fuck all to do with the Supreme Court case, so I'm not sure why you're trying to claim that because it happened whilst they're in government that they're somehow responsible for it.

The Tories were starting to wind back from where the country had ended up due to Stonewall Law becoming pervasive. Sadly, Kemi ran out of time to sort the Equality Act before Sunak called the election.

Bonsaibaby · 20/05/2026 20:21

I find it interesting before Labour got in several posters were talking about holding their noses and voting Conservative, saying that under Labour everyone could self-identify etc etc and yet it was under Labour that the Supreme Court ruled that the terms 'man', 'woman' and 'sex' in the Equality Act 2010 refer to biological sex. What did Conservatives actually ENACT to convince everyone they and right wing parties were interested in women?

endofthelinefinally · 20/05/2026 20:20

SilenceInside · 20/05/2026 20:12

It’s not a women who are feminists and gender critical who are voting Reform into council seats.

Quite. But is is convenient to blame women for everything.

NoWordForFluffy · 20/05/2026 20:20

CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 20:03

Not intending to post scares. I’m gender critical-BUT it would not be the absolute top of my list of reasons to vote. If I understand correctly, the only party that is gender critical/sex realist is Reform. And I can’t vote for them. So I have to vote Labour, despite their views on gender. There is no other choice. I worry that some women will give priority to their views on gender issues.

There is no other choice. I worry that some women will give priority to their views on gender issues.

Does the 'their' in this sentence mean Reform or the women? If it's the latter, then women can prioritise whatever they like in relation to choosing who to vote for.

The Tories are sex realists (even if the odd MP isn't, Kemi is, so that's the party's stance). The SDP is too.

To answer your question, I won't vote for any party which suggests that people can change sex.

I'm actually pretty sure that Farage was all for TW in women's prisons. So I wouldn't vote for Reform (I wouldn't anyway, but certainly not on this issue).

InfoSecInTheCity · 20/05/2026 20:15

No, I’ll probably vote Labour, not because I want to but because there is no viable alternative option and it will be potentially close enough in my area that if enough people don’t vote Labour we’ll end up with reform which would be worse.

Im firmly “gender critical” although I prefer to just see myself as a person who understands the difference between truth and lie/reality and fantasy/scientific fact and religious belief…… but I’m a person who doesn’t want a Reform government so will do what needs doing.

SilenceInside · 20/05/2026 20:12

It’s not a women who are feminists and gender critical who are voting Reform into council seats.

gostickyourheadinapig · 20/05/2026 20:12

I'm gender critical and would not vote Reform under any circumstances.

helderste · 20/05/2026 20:11

What makes you think that Reform are gender critical? If anything they’re as likely to ascribe importance to gender as those who believe in gender identity. I haven’t seen anything to suggest they’re critical of gender at all.

Ipsevenenabibas · 20/05/2026 20:10

Maybe some women will. That's their prerogative. Worrying won't change it.

CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 20:03

senua · 20/05/2026 19:27

Give over with the scare tactics. It's not working.

Not intending to post scares. I’m gender critical-BUT it would not be the absolute top of my list of reasons to vote. If I understand correctly, the only party that is gender critical/sex realist is Reform. And I can’t vote for them. So I have to vote Labour, despite their views on gender. There is no other choice. I worry that some women will give priority to their views on gender issues.

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Branleuse · 20/05/2026 19:56

I'm gender critical, but I actually voted for a transperson in the recent election because it was between them and reform.
It's so fckn weird at the moment.

SilenceInside · 20/05/2026 19:49

@CurlewKate would you be able to explain what it is about Reform that you perceive to be gender critical?

DappledOliveGroves · 20/05/2026 19:39

I would never vote for a party that takes the line that TWAW and denies biological reality. However, I also wouldn’t vote for a party simply because they are gender critical. Thankfully, under Kemi, I find many of my beliefs align, so happy to vote Tory.

endofthelinefinally · 20/05/2026 19:31

I think when politicians stand up and declare themselves to be liars and misogynists who care nothing for safeguarding women and children, it makes me disinclined to vote for them.
I wish there were some ethical people I could vote for.

senua · 20/05/2026 19:27

CurlewKate · 20/05/2026 19:09

…is that the most important point for you when you’re deciding who to vote for? More important than the NHS, the economy, foreign policy? If you’re a Labour voter, would you actively have a Reform government because Reform are gender critical?

Give over with the scare tactics. It's not working.

BelleEpoque27 · 20/05/2026 19:27

No, it's not the most important thing - I usually vote for the direction of travel I prefer, rather than specific policies. I wouldn't vote for Reform in any circumstances.

I am a left leaving feminist who does not want men in women's spaces. Absolutely nothing to do with Reform and their abhorrent members.

SilenceInside · 20/05/2026 19:22

@Ipsevenenabibas sex realist to me is anyone who recognises that there are two sexes and you cannot change your sex. So that would cover a huge range of people and says nothing about their politics or other beliefs. Gender critical is someone who is critical of gender roles and stereotypes, and views gender as a tool of patriarchal oppression. So very much not what Reform are about at all. They want to reinforce traditional gender roles.

RaininSummer · 20/05/2026 19:21

All the other things are important but I can't vote for anyone who thinks men can be women or women can be men.

Ipsevenenabibas · 20/05/2026 19:19

SilenceInside · 20/05/2026 19:17

Voting is always about balancing competing interests and often about choosing the least worst option when all options are flawed. I am not a right of centre voter, I would never vote Conservative and would never even consider Reform as an option. I am also not a left of centre voter and so would not be likely to vote Labour, unless it was the least worst option to avoid a conservative or reform win. I don’t view the Greens as a coherent and competent party, so would be unlikely to vote for them. That leaves me with the Lib Dems, who are the current least worst option for me even though they are more in thrall to gender identity ideology than I would want them to be.

Reform are not gender critical. At all. I’m not sure why you think they are. They may be sex realists but that’s not the same thing at all.

Genuine question:- what's the difference between GC and sex realist?

Taztoy · 20/05/2026 19:19

It’s really important to me - it’s part of my balancing act of who to vote for.

but I would never vote reform. And I didn’t.

PrimeSeason · 20/05/2026 19:17

It’s really, really, really important to me. I won’t vote for a party who insists I should believe a blatant lie.

SilenceInside · 20/05/2026 19:17

Voting is always about balancing competing interests and often about choosing the least worst option when all options are flawed. I am not a right of centre voter, I would never vote Conservative and would never even consider Reform as an option. I am also not a left of centre voter and so would not be likely to vote Labour, unless it was the least worst option to avoid a conservative or reform win. I don’t view the Greens as a coherent and competent party, so would be unlikely to vote for them. That leaves me with the Lib Dems, who are the current least worst option for me even though they are more in thrall to gender identity ideology than I would want them to be.

Reform are not gender critical. At all. I’m not sure why you think they are. They may be sex realists but that’s not the same thing at all.

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