What I don't get about Angela Rayner

If only her tax arrangements were her biggest problem. She is intellectually and in her political “ideas” completely unfit to lead this country. Try and imagine her in a meeting with Trump.

That's a very low bar!

By whom? I think the HMRC investigation hasn’t concluded yet.

Well Peter Mandelson was sacked twice and we all knew he was dodgy but that didn't stop him getting a top job did it?

I think it's a sign of how shit most of them are.

She put herself forward for investigation and she was found not to have done anything wrong

She stood down for screwing up her tax affairs. We don’t actually know whether it was shady or not.

when it came out in news I looked into the type trust she had done and it took me 5 minutes on hmrc website to work out you had to pay tax. I don’t think it was shady or deliberate - just lazy and incompetent. She’s lost all credibility now to run the economy when she can’t do her own finances. It wasn’t the first time the right wing media came for her so she should have known better especially when the lawyers warned her to get advice.

Polanski is a chancer and so is Farage. The country gives them a free pass and has with Farage for decades! The public are fools and although I’m not a Rayner supporter, she’s clearly got complex family arrangements and has tried to sort out her dc whilst pursuing her very full time job and her own needs.

Lammy also dodgy and didn't step down

Polanski is also up this morning for not only lying about 2 serious jobs that he never had, but also failing to pay council tax plus some other things..

My recollection is that AR tried to blame the firm of conveyancers, but that was shown to be untrue when the firm went public on the fact that they explicitly do not give tax advice and that AR was well aware of that.

No it didn’t, but perhaps it should

Ahhh good. If we can’t have Angela Rayner because of her shady dealings then that rules out Farage, Tice, Jenrick and Zahawi too, right because their dealings are a lot more shady.

I agree I don't know how she thinks she can fix her PR well enough to win, but her "shady" dealings are insignificant compared to Johnson and he reamins popular. She certainly didn't accept £5m from a foreign crypto bloke in order to run for a position she said she didn't want, and that doesn't seem to have done him any harm.

The main problem for Rayner is that she's a (very) working class woman and even the working classes, subconciously believe that to be competent in government you need to be male and/or from the ruling classes, or at least appear as if you might be.

This!

And we have Farage being given £5MILLION which he did not declare, and no one seems to give a shit.

Anyway it looks like Rayner isn’t going to put her name forward so there’s no need to worry.

The other Milliband - yes please, this one - not so much.

I think this post highlights the problem with polarised politics today.

For example you state that she was "advised by a legal person that her tax arrangements were fine".

Now this is a categorically untrue statement. She did not seek advice from anyone - legal or accounting.

In her resignation letter, Rayner said "she deeply regretted her decision to not seek specialist tax advice given both her position and complex family arrangements."

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/conveyancing-firm-denies-giving-rayner-tax-advice/5124370.article

Which then turns to the question of why would you deliberately post misinformation? For which there are two possible explanations:
a) you knew it was untrue but posted it in the expectation that if the same lie is repeated often enough then uninformed others will believe it and repeat it again.
b) You are the uninformed "other" that believed the lie and are simply repeating it.

I think Milliband is a very good candidate for a PM.
I do not see the problem with him.

It never did with the Tories.

Imagine a country with Rayner in charge, probably worse than Farage , welfare doubled, illegal immigrants welcomed with open arms, here’s a thought, perhaps if parties throw out their leader mid term due to internal squabbles , it should automatically lead to a general election

Oh good. Another snobbish anti Rayner thread.

I can’t bear the actual look of her. Sly face and that single mother on benefits shtick. Fuck off.

This is the calibre of our politicians now. Can you imagine the laughing stock we’d be on the world stage with her or Miliband?

It makes no sense. Labour has no hope with her as leader imo

The bar is so fucking low.
Zahawi had to pay £5m, which included a £1m penalty for carelessness (I believe the issue of whether she has to pay a penalty, which would vary depending on whether they think she was careless or actually deliberate, or just the money owed is what HMRC are still deciding in the AR case).
Farage accepted his £5m “gift” and didn’t mention it.
Polanski didn’t pay council tax on his narrow boat.