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What I don't get about Angela Rayner

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DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 11/05/2026 21:29

Is how can she be a serious contender for PM, when she stood down as deputy PM for shady dealings?

It rendered her not good enough for no 2 but oh it's fine for her to look at the top job!

Does not compute, could someone explain?

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KeepPumping · 21/05/2026 14:40

Allseeingallknowing · 21/05/2026 10:15

Doesn’t have the gravitas required for a potential PM. She does come across as sincere, though. Now is not her time.

This will be her one and only chance, they are finished after the next election.

Allseeingallknowing · 21/05/2026 10:15

desperatemum1234 · 14/05/2026 17:12

🤮🤮🤮

Doesn’t have the gravitas required for a potential PM. She does come across as sincere, though. Now is not her time.

Allseeingallknowing · 21/05/2026 10:02

MushMonster · 14/05/2026 17:00

I want Ed Miliband to run for PM if there is a leadership contest.
He is rather clean for what I can find. I have not seen him at the centre of any scandal, but been the one to sort issues.

He’s a nerd, doesn’t command respect, open to ridicule, hence the names- minibrain, millipede, sillybrain etc and his nut zero policies rule him out for most.

KeepPumping · 20/05/2026 17:15

MushMonster · 14/05/2026 17:00

I want Ed Miliband to run for PM if there is a leadership contest.
He is rather clean for what I can find. I have not seen him at the centre of any scandal, but been the one to sort issues.

He couldn"t flatten a bacon butty before taking a bite, he can sort nothing and will lead us straight to a bond market crisis.

KeepPumping · 20/05/2026 17:13

DangerQuakeRhinoSnake · 11/05/2026 21:29

Is how can she be a serious contender for PM, when she stood down as deputy PM for shady dealings?

It rendered her not good enough for no 2 but oh it's fine for her to look at the top job!

Does not compute, could someone explain?

She doesn"t compute at all for me, her story, rising from care home assistant and teenage single parent to contender for PM is unbelievable if it wasn"t actually true but she isn"t an inspiring person, she comes over as - Don"t do what I do, Don"t talk the way I do if you want to be taken seriously, she is seen as not someone who can be held as competent or trustworthy by many members of the public?

desperatemum1234 · 14/05/2026 17:12

AbundantFlowers · 11/05/2026 22:50

She was advised by a legal person that her tax arrangements were fine! It’s not shady.
She’d be great. Much better than any man.

🤮🤮🤮

MushMonster · 14/05/2026 17:10

Well, we may not have acces to crude and gas in the volumes we need it for much longer. The Strait of Hormuz does not seem to be easing. So we have to get on with the renewable market. We should have invested on it much earlier, and we would be less dependant on international affairs by now. But we cannot change the past. This is the time to get solar panels up in our houses roofs ( instead of flipping farming land!), by a UK company. Create jobs for UK workers.
Same with wavepower. More wind power.
And so on.
I am not saying no to get gas and crude from the North Sea, while we get there. Because, of course, no child or pensioner (or anyone) should go cold, if we have a way to prevent it.
But if we can be fully independant of ME and Russian oil and gas, that would help so much to keep our economy stable. Stability brings in more investment.

Also, the weather and food insecurity that models predict, if we do not get close enough to that Net Zero by 2023 or 2050, are very scary. And the models have proven that they can predict what is going on so far. They are reliable.

MushMonster · 14/05/2026 17:00

LilyCanna · 14/05/2026 13:47

Is the reason why everyone hates Ed Miliband that he takes climate change seriously?
I know the right wing press loathe him but I can’t work out that he’s done anything wrong beyond trying to actually do something about the fact that burning fossil fuels is causing irreversible damage to our basic life support systems.

I want Ed Miliband to run for PM if there is a leadership contest.
He is rather clean for what I can find. I have not seen him at the centre of any scandal, but been the one to sort issues.

Boomer55 · 14/05/2026 16:31

Angela has been suddenly cleared by HMRC. How lucky. 🙄

Fibrous · 14/05/2026 14:44

LilyCanna · 14/05/2026 14:32

I can’t work out whether this is a serious post or a sarcastic one, sorry!
I mean ‘net zero fanatic’ is what Ed’s called in the Sun because they think that making a serious effort to avoid the Really Bad Things which are rapidly heading our way (rising sea levels, likelihood of multiple drought / heatwave / floods hitting global agriculture, Amazon rainforest collapse, water shortages causing conflict etc) is somehow a character flaw…

It's mad. The cost of living is going to keep going up as the world burns and we can no longer grow any bloody crops, and 'the boats' are arriving in their thousands as the third world is an absolute mess due to our overconsumption. But still, no one gives a shit about the green agenda.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · 14/05/2026 14:38

@LilyCanna It’s a huge problem when people cannot afford their bills! His policies increase bills a lot. If we had a bouyant growth economy, yes, go for it. Unfortunately millions of people feel they cannot afford the green agenda, even though they would like to. Ed is also a previous failed leader. He was a mistake then (got the union vote) and will be now.

Ang will get the union support now. She’s one of their own. She will bankrupt the rest of us and knows nothing about business. So no growth with her at the helm. She’s paid her tax though and wasn’t surcharged.

Jellybelly80 · 14/05/2026 14:36

Re Angela Rayners tax situation - I read today that HMRC have cleared her of any wrongdoing.

LilyCanna · 14/05/2026 14:32

Allseeingallknowing · 14/05/2026 14:21

He’s a net zero fanatic!

I can’t work out whether this is a serious post or a sarcastic one, sorry!
I mean ‘net zero fanatic’ is what Ed’s called in the Sun because they think that making a serious effort to avoid the Really Bad Things which are rapidly heading our way (rising sea levels, likelihood of multiple drought / heatwave / floods hitting global agriculture, Amazon rainforest collapse, water shortages causing conflict etc) is somehow a character flaw…

Allseeingallknowing · 14/05/2026 14:21

LilyCanna · 14/05/2026 13:47

Is the reason why everyone hates Ed Miliband that he takes climate change seriously?
I know the right wing press loathe him but I can’t work out that he’s done anything wrong beyond trying to actually do something about the fact that burning fossil fuels is causing irreversible damage to our basic life support systems.

He’s a net zero fanatic!

WhatAMarvelousTune · 14/05/2026 14:17

LilyCanna · 14/05/2026 13:47

Is the reason why everyone hates Ed Miliband that he takes climate change seriously?
I know the right wing press loathe him but I can’t work out that he’s done anything wrong beyond trying to actually do something about the fact that burning fossil fuels is causing irreversible damage to our basic life support systems.

Yeah I think that’s pretty much it

LilyCanna · 14/05/2026 13:47

Is the reason why everyone hates Ed Miliband that he takes climate change seriously?
I know the right wing press loathe him but I can’t work out that he’s done anything wrong beyond trying to actually do something about the fact that burning fossil fuels is causing irreversible damage to our basic life support systems.

GreenCa · 14/05/2026 13:33

asdbaybeeee · 12/05/2026 06:54

Everyone remembers Boris right??? If Angela was a man no one would care what she did

I would. Many people did care and were unhappy about what Boris did. I, and am sure many others, apply the same criteria for fitness for public office to both men and women. It's about the person not their gender.

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 14/05/2026 09:57

Somersetbaker · 14/05/2026 09:33

How many times was Boris Johnson sacked?

Exactly, these days doing anything wrong in politics doesn't seem to be a sackable offence.

Scotiasdarling · 14/05/2026 09:38

AbundantFlowers · 11/05/2026 22:50

She was advised by a legal person that her tax arrangements were fine! It’s not shady.
She’d be great. Much better than any man.

Are you really saying that someone who doesn't make absolutely certain to pay the right amount of tax when in public office and gets so drunk she walks into doors should even be considered for p.m?

Somersetbaker · 14/05/2026 09:33

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 12/05/2026 10:32

Well Peter Mandelson was sacked twice and we all knew he was dodgy but that didn't stop him getting a top job did it?

I think it's a sign of how shit most of them are.

How many times was Boris Johnson sacked?

PropertyD · 13/05/2026 14:14

Maddy70 · 12/05/2026 10:22

She put herself forward for investigation and she was found not to have done anything wrong

The investigation is still ongoing. Why do you think she has been cleared.

BTW - what is taking so long?

PropertyD · 13/05/2026 14:11

AbundantFlowers · 11/05/2026 22:50

She was advised by a legal person that her tax arrangements were fine! It’s not shady.
She’d be great. Much better than any man.

No she wasn’t! She used some middle of nowhere conveyancer to do her property sale and they told her to get further advice (and didn’t!).

She then tried to throw them under the bus but they came out swinging. She is a disgrace. She used her disabled sons’s trust fund to fund her flat in Brighton. Her boyfriend has been fired by Labour and is known as very left wing/approaching Marxist who attends picket lines.

Her son of course gained a share of the house he lived in however unless I have missed something - why would you get your son to buy your share of the house. Surely in your will you would leave it to them at no cost. All this nesting rubbish. If AR moves 100’s of miles away from son the chances of her seeing him very often are minimal. Wasn’t she reported as getting very drunk and face planting a door at the House of Commons.

She is not fit for office.

upinaballoon · 13/05/2026 13:40

NellieJean · 12/05/2026 11:24

If only her tax arrangements were her biggest problem. She is intellectually and in her political “ideas” completely unfit to lead this country. Try and imagine her in a meeting with Trump.

Yes, I was wondering how she would get on on the international stage. You can't be just prime minister of domestic things. You have to wade out into international relationships, whether you want to or not. Edit to say It wouldn't only be Trump she'd meet. She might get on fine with him. There would be several other leaders from other countries as well.

CurlewKate · 12/05/2026 11:40

I can easily imagine her in a meeting with Trump. The snobbery she faces is spectacular!

WhatAMarvelousTune · 12/05/2026 11:29

NellieJean · 12/05/2026 11:24

If only her tax arrangements were her biggest problem. She is intellectually and in her political “ideas” completely unfit to lead this country. Try and imagine her in a meeting with Trump.

I don’t like her. I absolutely do not want her to be PM.

But no one is intellectually unfit for a meeting with Trump.