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This post nails it about left wing voters on Mumsnet over the last two days

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ProudAmberTurtle · 10/05/2026 08:55

It's by an ex-academic on X, about posts on Reddit over the last 48 hours but is equally applicable to Mumsnet, where I can seeing posts stating things like:

"How stupid are Reform voters? Don't they realise they'll get fewer benefits?!"

The irony is of course that it's those posters who need to be educated, not the working class voters they mock because they think they're thick.

Here you go:

Reading through Reddit threads in which leftists/progressives express their bewilderment/confusion/fury at working class English voters for casting their lot in with Reform, one of the things I'm starting to understand is this:

They simply do not understand how a government could help working-class people in any other way besides giving them benefits, handouts, and other free things.

Their entire mental architecture is premised upon the premises that

  1. Working class people are poor
  2. The only way for them to not be poor is for the state to give them free stuff
  3. So left-wing parties need to promise them lots of free stuff

Then, when these working-class voters instead vote for right-of-centre parties who instead promise an economy in which they can build a career, start their own business, make a financial success of themselves and start a family, they're confused.

Because, again, in their mental architecture, what the working class are supposed to want is free benefits from the state.

But what they actually want is a fair shake at making their own way in the world, making money, getting on in life.

And the left simply doesn't understand that what these voters want from the state is an economy in which they can actually do this.

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NormasArse · 10/05/2026 09:16

MaturingCheeseball · 10/05/2026 08:59

And left-wing people despise the white working class. Actually they also despise any poc who has made a success of things. The just love a victim with their hand out.

That is absolute nonsense.

Screamingabdabz · 10/05/2026 09:15

I agree with you. It was summed up to me by some posh twat at Glastonbury the day after the brexit vote quoted in the press as saying “the chavs have won mate.”

The privileged dont get it. They don’t have to live and work with the impact of unfettered mass immigration policy, declining public services, and working long hours in mind numbing low paid jobs to see their feckless neighbour or recently arrived people being given everything.

It’s ironic that they are called the thick chavs or gammons when the leftist middle classes continually hand wring over the rise of Reform and yet the answers are obvious - build the economy, promote British industry, make work pay and be seen to have sensible, controlled immigration.

Firetreev · 10/05/2026 09:13

Er no. What many of us realise is that Reform and their ilk have no interest in creating a society where the working class can prosper. They're a party that represent the interests of the wealthy elite and are scapegoating immigrants to divert attention from the real reasons why the working class are struggling. The insatiable greed of the wealthy elite who pay poverty wages, buy up property and resources etc. They see the working classes as nothing more than proles to be used to further enable them to meet their own ends. If they actually cared about the working classes why would they say that the minimum wage is too high, despise unions, and want to end protections for worker's rights? They will create a society where work and wages are even more precarious for the working classes making them even more desperate.

The interests of businessmen like Tice, Banks, Harborne and the other wealthy business people propping the party up do not align with the interests of the working classes. This is what we on the left understand and working classes on the right do not. Why have the wealthy elite in this country shifted their support from the Tories to Reform? Because they are the extreme wing of the Tory Party who they know will enable them to become even richer.

And if it was actually about immigration - why the fuck are two of the culprits of the immigration disaster of the last decade, Jenrick and Braverman, on the front benches of Reform? They're responsible for this mess, and sit there saying we're the ones to fix it.

Jellycatspyjamas · 10/05/2026 09:06

Well Reform don’t seem to have any plan to grow the economy, much of the benefits structure was in place when the Tories were in power, they didn’t grow the economy either, nor did they make any meaningful changes to the welfare state. So right of centre aren’t doing much other than fostering divide.

MaturingCheeseball · 10/05/2026 08:59

And left-wing people despise the white working class. Actually they also despise any poc who has made a success of things. The just love a victim with their hand out.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 10/05/2026 08:58

They simply do not understand how a government could help working-class people in any other way besides giving them benefits, handouts, and other free things

This is where this completely falls down.

Reform are no such thing.