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What is the best way to vote to stop Reform at next GE

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HedgeKnights · 09/05/2026 06:43

As a more left leaning voter, I am happy to vote Labour, Lib Dem or Green. I am worried Reform will win the next GE and think Lib Dem might be the way to go, to keep them out. Not just as a tactical vote as I do like most of their policies.
Do people who don't want Reform in power need to to come together now behind one party, or is it more difficult than that
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LettuceAndCarrots · 09/05/2026 09:51

NoArmaniNoPunani · 09/05/2026 06:55

There's already a website which tells you how to tactically vote based on your area. It's still extremely unlikely Farage will be PM. Aside from the reality of voting under FPTP system, there's also the fact that Nigel is workshy.

This. I used this at the last election, as it varies by area who is the best tactical choice.

I used to vote Conservative but haven't since Brexit. But I'd vote for them if I was in an area where they were the party who could keep out Reform. Reform are full of the worst ex-Tories imo so I don't understand how anyone can think they'll solve the problems that the Conservatives caused in recent years. I hope that the Conservatives can find their way again and recruit more good candidates. Our local Conservative MP was good but resigned after Brexit.

MulberryBrandy · 09/05/2026 09:48

Catsandcheese · 09/05/2026 09:22

Their main issue is immigration. They’ve been told so called illegal immigration is an invasion, the reason why they don’t own their own house, can’t get a doctors appointment or get their kids in the school of their choice and they’ve fallen for it hook line and sinker. There is no solution that will work for them because illegal immigration is not the root cause.
So no I don’t believe pandering to the reasons people vote reform is the answer

We were all told it was an "invasion" by the Conservative government in the House of Commons.

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 09/05/2026 09:44

Another saying, check your local area, look at tactical voting options. To the extent that if in my area it’s a choice between Tories and reform I might feel I have to vote Tory.

(can I also suggest you go on the websites of right wing papers and hunt for their hidden stories about Farage’s £5m gift- show them the public is interested in this story. Ultimately they need to sell advertising and if articles negative about Farage gets them clicks, they’ll print them. The ideal situation if you don’t want reform to do well in the next general election is for those failed Tories to get emboldened that Farage isn’t as popular as they thought and arrogantly thinking they could do a better job as leader, a good old backstabbing leadership challenge in a year or so would be good.)

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/05/2026 09:39

Catsandcheese · 09/05/2026 09:37

That’s exactly the point. There are lots and lots of reasons for their lives being intolerable and yes overall immigration may play a part. But the boat numbers are a very small part of the picture and reducing council tax will not help, nor will privatising the NHS and turning it into the US model for health care. Sure we need to do something in this area and I’ve seen some posts on other threads about European models which work pretty well but that’s not what Farage is talking about .

I can see why people who live near the hotels and HMOs housing asylum seekers are angry and have had their lives directly negatively impacted by hundreds of undocumented men landing on their doorsteps.

Shudacudawuda · 09/05/2026 09:37

Catsandcheese · 09/05/2026 09:22

Their main issue is immigration. They’ve been told so called illegal immigration is an invasion, the reason why they don’t own their own house, can’t get a doctors appointment or get their kids in the school of their choice and they’ve fallen for it hook line and sinker. There is no solution that will work for them because illegal immigration is not the root cause.
So no I don’t believe pandering to the reasons people vote reform is the answer

No they haven't just been told, they are experiencing this stuff directly while predominantly privileged people living in wealthy areas that are protected from these things disregard their experiences and tell them they're thick.

Catsandcheese · 09/05/2026 09:37

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/05/2026 09:26

Or they’ve experienced it for themselves and have voted accordingly

That’s exactly the point. There are lots and lots of reasons for their lives being intolerable and yes overall immigration may play a part. But the boat numbers are a very small part of the picture and reducing council tax will not help, nor will privatising the NHS and turning it into the US model for health care. Sure we need to do something in this area and I’ve seen some posts on other threads about European models which work pretty well but that’s not what Farage is talking about .

Tinychihuahua · 09/05/2026 09:32

I think Deform will win and there isn’t much that can be done to stop them, but to be completely honest, this is exactly what Britain deserves.

this gluttony for punishment does baffle me.

EasternStandard · 09/05/2026 09:29

UnaGatita · 09/05/2026 09:06

The very last thing we should do as teachers is influence kids. Parents can teach morality and we can teach the law and critical thinking in the classroom. The last thing children need is to hear activist teachers indoctrinating them, my students are all too aware of the influence of malign adults. Thankfully I work at a school where we focus on teaching our subjects and healthy debate.

Agree.

Sunshinebound99 · 09/05/2026 09:29

vote for who you believe in not tactically. Doesn’t work.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/05/2026 09:26

Catsandcheese · 09/05/2026 09:22

Their main issue is immigration. They’ve been told so called illegal immigration is an invasion, the reason why they don’t own their own house, can’t get a doctors appointment or get their kids in the school of their choice and they’ve fallen for it hook line and sinker. There is no solution that will work for them because illegal immigration is not the root cause.
So no I don’t believe pandering to the reasons people vote reform is the answer

Or they’ve experienced it for themselves and have voted accordingly

xanthomelana · 09/05/2026 09:25

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 07:02

I wouldn't be so sure. Reform failed to win two national elections yesterday. They threw lots of money around campaigning but still didn't win.

People vote differently in a general election. I would never vote for Plaid Cymru in a general election because I see it s a waste of a vote.

Catsandcheese · 09/05/2026 09:22

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/05/2026 09:07

The only way is to lobby your local MPs to listen to the Reform voters main points of contention and act in parliament accordingly so they don’t feel forced into voting for Reform

Their main issue is immigration. They’ve been told so called illegal immigration is an invasion, the reason why they don’t own their own house, can’t get a doctors appointment or get their kids in the school of their choice and they’ve fallen for it hook line and sinker. There is no solution that will work for them because illegal immigration is not the root cause.
So no I don’t believe pandering to the reasons people vote reform is the answer

Parker231 · 09/05/2026 09:20

UnaGatita · 09/05/2026 09:06

The very last thing we should do as teachers is influence kids. Parents can teach morality and we can teach the law and critical thinking in the classroom. The last thing children need is to hear activist teachers indoctrinating them, my students are all too aware of the influence of malign adults. Thankfully I work at a school where we focus on teaching our subjects and healthy debate.

Parents should do the teaching of right from wrong. Racism is wrong, your skin colour is irrelevant, having a job is good, work hard at school, have good manners etc

keepswimming38 · 09/05/2026 09:20

@UnaGatitathats interesting because don’t you teach anything related to values and beliefs because we do even on higher education courses to nurses. I’m surprised that in school they don’t!

Values- to not discriminate. To respect diversity. To be compassionate. All the qualities Reform seem to not value!

Quicknamechange2025 · 09/05/2026 09:19

UnaGatita · 09/05/2026 09:06

The very last thing we should do as teachers is influence kids. Parents can teach morality and we can teach the law and critical thinking in the classroom. The last thing children need is to hear activist teachers indoctrinating them, my students are all too aware of the influence of malign adults. Thankfully I work at a school where we focus on teaching our subjects and healthy debate.

Scary isn't it.

TemperanceWest · 09/05/2026 09:16

Firetreev · 09/05/2026 09:00

Yes, they were bleating on about how they could win from the north of Scotland to the south coast. They only won seats in Scotland via the regional list vote and averaged around 15% of the vote across the Scotland. They came in third place, if not lower in the majority of constituencies. They're not universally popular and a lot of people will do whatever it takes to prevent Farage from becoming PM. However, I very much expect the lovely Tories to hop into bed with them and form a pact to stand down candidates for each other at the next general election.

Yes, that is a possibility re:a pact.

But it would be a strange thing to do if Badenoch is still in place- make an alliance with a party whose supporters (at least some of them) hate people like her.

Eta: I seem to remember Farage saying if he could win in Wales he could win a GE. Tough titties, Nige.

MelanzaneParmigiana · 09/05/2026 09:13

‘Bad men’ - if they really say that (?) that’s because of ignorant adults telling them so.

FutureVet · 09/05/2026 09:13

@Firetreev
You can model but you shouldn’t impose.

And if your views are as good as you think they are, they should naturally choose them as well, so what are you afraid of?

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/05/2026 09:12

Firetreev · 09/05/2026 09:03

It's not imposing your will and indoctrinating children. It's called raising decent, respectful human beings. The average child can tell you that people like Farage and Trump are bad men, unfortunately it's the wayward adults who have either lost or never had a moral compass in the first place who seem to need help with this.

They can never tell you why though or give specific examples.

Which evidences indoctrination

lonelyplanetmum · 09/05/2026 09:11

Parker231 · 09/05/2026 07:50

You think voters would support a party which would move to an insurance healthcare system and get rid of the ECHR? A party which is anti non British members of the public?

Buying into Farage’s spin on the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) is poorly researched and illogical. He’s a proven charlatan.

Do you know how many times in the last five decades the ECHR has ruled against the UK regarding deportation or extradition? Just 13. So roughly once every 3 - 4 years

Britain and Winston Churchill were key architects of the ECHR following World War II. Plus the Good Friday agreement is deeply tied to it.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 09/05/2026 09:07

The only way is to lobby your local MPs to listen to the Reform voters main points of contention and act in parliament accordingly so they don’t feel forced into voting for Reform

UnaGatita · 09/05/2026 09:06

Parker231 · 09/05/2026 07:25

Good point - start teaching your DC’s right from wrong.

The very last thing we should do as teachers is influence kids. Parents can teach morality and we can teach the law and critical thinking in the classroom. The last thing children need is to hear activist teachers indoctrinating them, my students are all too aware of the influence of malign adults. Thankfully I work at a school where we focus on teaching our subjects and healthy debate.

Firetreev · 09/05/2026 09:03

FutureVet · 09/05/2026 08:09

Imposing your political views on people too young to understand is called indoctrination.

People of all ages should be free to vote without pressure or influence, especially from within their family.

It's not imposing your will and indoctrinating children. It's called raising decent, respectful human beings. The average child can tell you that people like Farage and Trump are bad men, unfortunately it's the wayward adults who have either lost or never had a moral compass in the first place who seem to need help with this.

TeenagersAngst · 09/05/2026 09:03

Firetreev · 09/05/2026 09:00

Yes, they were bleating on about how they could win from the north of Scotland to the south coast. They only won seats in Scotland via the regional list vote and averaged around 15% of the vote across the Scotland. They came in third place, if not lower in the majority of constituencies. They're not universally popular and a lot of people will do whatever it takes to prevent Farage from becoming PM. However, I very much expect the lovely Tories to hop into bed with them and form a pact to stand down candidates for each other at the next general election.

I don’t see why being unpopular in Scotland would be a deal breaker for Reform. It never stopped various Tory governments.

Greenwitchart · 09/05/2026 09:02

FlyingApple · 09/05/2026 07:36

There's no tactical vote that can stop it.

Some of the comments on this thread really have sinister, gloating and almost threatening tones...

And then you wonder why decent people don't want anything to do with Reform.

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