What I would like to ask Reform supporters what are the specific Reform policies they support?

What about all the net migration before 2025, it has an impact on housing

Given how bad golf courses are for the environment it might be a really good idea to build on golf courses. Only 8% of the population play golf regularly. All of us need a roof over our heads.

More simple mathematics. There are around 6000 homes required in my local area to solve the housing shortage. Net migration in 2025 was less than 1000 people last year. Even without those people, 5000 people would be homeless in my area. Immigration has bugger all to do with the housing shortage.

Zia Yusef is the most impressive person in politics currently.

Leave the ECHR.
Migrants will be needed in the future as population is ageing and birth rate is declining. So, more working migrants will be needed. However, they will need to have secured a job before they are allowed to enter the UK. Switzerland, who have stated they will never become an EU member, has a similar policy.

No one (sensible) has issues with immigration, it is illegal migrants (criminals) that should be unable to receive benefits/avoid British laws.
The NHS in its current form is unsustainable.

I didn't vote Reform but this is what I believe influenced Reform voters.

This is simply a question of supply and demand.

Skin colour should be completely irrelevant, but worryingly it isn't to you. Why?

Celebrating most likely.

Well you can tackle the housing problem in two ways:

1. Less demand- by having fewer people in the country or at least not growing. This can be done in a number of ways less children born, encourage emigration and yes reduce immigration.

2. increase supply by building more houses - yes wildlife and pretty views are great but I care more about the quality of life for young people unable to afford a home, start a family or being saddled with mortgage debt than I do about Great Crested Newts.

Personally I would be in favour of both less people and more houses.

It isn’t social housing they will build on greenbelt. That land is too expensive.

Bit of a desperate stretch. Why are you bringing colour into it?

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Yes and I worked for my home, I don't expect to get something for nothing.

Had enough of the brown people?

I care about housing people. More than being a nimby.

You have a nice house I assume?

Good but living in the South East it feels very overcrowded

Don't you care about our wildlife, or the quality of life for those people already living here?

The standard of living in this country has already dropped in recent years. People have had enough.

Less than 10 percent of the 'tiny island' is built on.

Interestingly it has actually gone up by 350million a week. Not saying it’s all Brexit mind, COVID bumped up spending.

The world?!

That’s a lot of people. More in fact than actually arrive, or ever would.

Are you hard of thinking?

It's simple mathematics - more people = more housing (and everything else for that matter).

You can't house the world on a tiny island. Why should we?

Reform isn’t my cup of tea tbh but I do wonder if people ever reflect on the fact that being condescending towards people who do vote reform won’t actually change their minds. There has been literally one thread where a question like this was asked and most people tried to speak to each other in good faith and without insults or snideness. It’s often just stuff like “they’ve been tricked, they are stupid, they are bigots”. None of it comes from actual curiosity.

What happens is those people just don’t bother speaking to you and will go away and just vote how they like anyway. You lost the opportunity to set out your own stall as to why you believe an alternative would be better, I have a friend who would have voted green and I would have voted conservative. If I ran a country it would be like el salavador and he would probably run a giant hippy commune. We manage not to belittle or insult each other despite having very different views. Theres an extreme childishness in the way people engage with each other on politics on mumsnet.

How so?

in this situation I think it is to blame

it was better before Tony B started all the nonsense

I think we probably would. Easy to blame immigration for everything.

I live in hard core Lib Dem territory and I am pretty sure that many people who vote for them have no idea what their policies are. It is simply a vibe imo - and same with Reform, Greens, I think.

If we hadn’t had so much immigration we wouldn’t be in this situation.

The Iran war that started recently? No it didn’t. It was the Ukraine war that prompted it more, but member states started to see it as critical to reaching net zero.

Nuclear is a low carbon energy source. So net zero and nuclear are not at odds with each other.

Only in response to the Iran war. France did it years ago and reaped the benefits.