New poll finds only privileged people will vote for Labour - but why?

I think the answer is in this thread over and over again.
The privileged dismissing the concerns of those less well off AND calling them uneducated. I’d like to know how many of them live in run down areas.
I live in an area with one of the ‘hotels’ and it is not good. Migrant men milling about in the streets. The sexual harassment by said men. The hotel has gone from looking ok to all the windows hanging off and rubbish strewn everywhere.
Reform are a single issue party and will probably get in as the strength of feeling about the volume of immigration in this country is the highest I’ve ever known. The country is economically down at heel and people don’t appreciate the speed of change, the fighting for scraps or the building on green belt to accommodate all this incomers. Tax credits were also an unreversed disaster. Labour and Conservatives have dismissed or minimised the urgency of all of this at their peril and as a result we’ll be lumped with Farage. The only upside to that (as well as hopefully some changes to migration) is he will have to put his money where his mouth is and finally be held accountable.

I don’t think they are any less competent than the previous government. I didn’t like the u-turns on benefits but many people were aghast at changing things. Look at the ridiculous outcry over means testing winter fuel.

Is anyone getting 'what they want'?

Again, what is it that people want? I am not getting what I want, I want growth & a strong economy. We haven’t had that in years. No one party is going to deliver it either.

Surely you want at least a competent party in Government? Can you honestly say we have one currently? With the number of u turns and constant in fighting? Is anyone getting 'what they want'?

And how is that measured? By giving people what they want?

But not educated in the real world. Calling people racist while living in areas unaffected by mass immigration. Not to mention younger people are more likely to be left wing and become right wing as they grow older and become more experienced

Competence?

I'm a firm believer that Reform would never have got the support it does if Labour and the Tories actually had better quality MP's offering something the electorate wants

But what do they want?

I think we are so fractured and divided that it’s impossible for one party to appeal to their traditional voter base.

It seems many want low taxes, better public services and lower migration. That utopia isn’t possible.

When I think back to my college days, the “wokest” students all lived in large houses.
Its hard to see what’s wrong with mass immigration when you live in a gated community that’s 99% British

Agree, personally am university educated but whatever someone has been doing they’ve often been gaining just as valuable experience. I detest the fact that my degrees are held in far more esteem than all the experience from years spent raising a large family

So is it a protest vote or do they genuinely think Reform will improve their lives?

@eyeballer - maybe it's just that Labour and the Tories aren't offering anything that appeals to them so why not give Reform a go?
I'm a firm believer that Reform would never have got the support it does if Labour and the Tories actually had better quality MP's offering something the electorate wants. Labour needs to understand it's core voter base - if those people have moved to Reform, it would be unwise to carry on insulting them as far right. You are never going to attract their votes back by insultng them. They need to understand why them have gone to Reform.

“People living in areas with poorer healthoutcomes are more likely to vote for Reform UK, new analysis has suggested.
Experts at Imperial College London looked at voting data from the 2024 general election, when Nigel Farage’s party won five seats in England, and found that three of the five constituencies (60 per cent) returning a Reform MP were in the most deprived fifth of the country, compared with 103 (29.7 per cent) of Labour constituencies.”

”The study, published in BMJ Open Respiratory Research, found that the strongest links between voting for Mr Farage’s party and conditions in constituencies were for obesity, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and epilepsy.
Reform-voting areas had the highest proportion of people aged over 65, and residents were more likely to suffer from 15 out of 20 common chronic diseases compared to other regions.”

I just don’t understand why they think Reform will make things better for them?

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"How do you explain people with more money than you who don't vote for left wing parties? "

Odd question when the misleading title of tour thread is:

"New poll finds only privileged people will vote for Labour - but why? "

But that's not what the poll says. Myself and others have pointed out what the poll says

Not true.

The Labour government is implementing a significant shift in council funding, targeting increased, long-term investment towards disadvantaged communities through a revised "fairer funding" model. Key initiatives include the £5 billion "Pride in Place" programme, aimed at upgrading 339 deprived communities, and a new £600 million annual "Recovery Grant" aimed at councils with the highest needs.

I work for a ‘shires’ council where funding has been cut. The money is diverted to areas with much more disadvantage. I see the investment in NE cities where disadvantage is an issue, new buildings, targeted employment, new opportunities, money spent on the environment and street, yet the same council is likely to have a Reform majority.
I do not understand the voters logic.

There’s quite a few on mn who use denigration for lack of degrees but on an AR thread will say the opposite.

I think it’s inconsistent to claim degrees equal privilege when the narrative on here is normally far too many go, pointless degrees, etc

Have they broken the respondents down by age? Older people are more comfortable but I don’t think they are more likely to vote labour or are they?

There’s quite a few on mn who use denigration for lack of degrees but on an AR thread will say the opposite. They probably wouldn’t use the same terms for those with jobs such as carers or staff in Tesco.

It’s an obvious inconsistency.

And that’s before you get to how many soundbites Labour used to get in.

There is no evidence that the 5 categories used in the polls actually reflect a smooth scale from rich to poor. That's 100% your projection @ProudAmberTurtle. The 5 categories are purely about how skilled the respondent is at livvng within their income, and to what extent they feel they ought to be entitled to be wealthier. There will be plenty of extremely wealthy people who classify themselves as "Just about managing" or "financially precarious" if their high income has depended on being an exploitative lamdlord and the recent renters rights bill (passed by Labour to make a huge difference to the poorest and most vulnerable) has slashed their ability to fleece poorer people so much, and won't vote Labour because their wealth and greed is not being prioritised at present. There will be plenty of lower income households where budgets are managed tightly but successfully to live within a limited income who would consider themselves financially stable precisely because Labour policies have helped them to achieve this stability. This poll is meaningless with subjective and wooly categories like this and no rational conclusions can be drawn from its guff.

I genuinely don’t understand Reforms policies

Freeze non essential migration

What does that mean as much of it is essential? The boat people? Is there really a cheap & easy solution to that? Processing illegals offshore & returning them, again how does that work in real life?

Big tax cuts for small businesses paid for by taxing big business & banks. Will those tax rises not impact us?

They are going to cut NHS waiting lists & want a model like France, fantastic but this costs serious money. European countries with better healthcare systems have higher social security taxes on employers so how will it be funded?

Cutting taxes eg raising stamp duty, IHT thresholds, raising the income tax threshold all funded by reducing welfare payments but not the triple lock obviously.

This is not going to lead to growth.

I feel the same about Green policies too.

People who are not this go for soundbites too, ‘change’ ‘smash the gangs’

Poorer education is a bit negative anyway, it’s just a different path through education and work.

You asked for ‘any thoughts’ I’ve offered those thought. Oh sorry, I didn’t know you meant ‘any thoughts that just align with my thoughts’!