Page 12 | Scottish General Election

Differentforgirls · 2026-04-12T13:33:24+00:00

Who are Scottish people voting for next month?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/04/2026 21:48

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2026 21:43

It appears in the white paper.

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Which ceased to have any relevance whatsoever after the 2014 "No" vote.

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2026 21:43

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/04/2026 20:28

It doesn't appear anywhere in the Edinburgh Agreement either, but unionists still continually refer to it as if it was codified rather than a throwaway comment.

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It appears in the white paper.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/04/2026 20:28

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2026 17:45

Your quote shows that your claim that generation is defined there is completely untrue. The word is not even used.

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It doesn't appear anywhere in the Edinburgh Agreement either, but unionists still continually refer to it as if it was codified rather than a throwaway comment.

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Differentforgirls · 17/04/2026 18:55

Motheranddaughter · 17/04/2026 16:24

We are discussing the Scottish election

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In the context of Scotland being part of the UK.

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GargoylesofBeelzebub · 17/04/2026 17:45

celticnations · 16/04/2026 20:35

Quote "Under the 1998 act, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland can decide to hold a border poll at any time, provided that there has not been another border poll in the last seven years. The act also imposes a duty on the Secretary of State to hold a border poll if it appears likely that a majority of people in Northern Ireland would vote for Irish unification". Unquote.

Back to Scotland.

If Farage (doubtful looking now) became UK PM, 58% of Scots would want independence. So a majority is likely. And it has been more than 7 years.

What unionists want is no change until they're dead & gone. Be that 20 or 50 years away. That is undemocratic & arrogant.

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Your quote shows that your claim that generation is defined there is completely untrue. The word is not even used.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/04/2026 17:00

Motheranddaughter · 17/04/2026 16:24

We are discussing the Scottish election

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You're the one espousing continued UK governance and claiming you'd be worried for your DC's futures without it, so it's a perfectly reasonable question to ask.

Motheranddaughter · 17/04/2026 16:24

Differentforgirls · 17/04/2026 14:43

How do you think the UK Government have performed since September 2014?

Because, although we’re allowed to do bits and pieces, they’re still in charge of the shitshow that is currently the UK. All debts, no assets.

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We are discussing the Scottish election

chasingsunset · 17/04/2026 15:06

I think SNP will gain the most seats.
I’m voting Labour in my constituency vote as only SNP and Labour have local candidates tackling local issues. My regional vote will be Conservative (for the first time ever). Many of their policies feel refreshingly like common sense after the lunacy of the past 5 years and they’ll be stronger in opposition than Labour.

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Differentforgirls · 17/04/2026 14:43

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 21:08

Are they ?
I am not
I am simply saying that in my opinion the SNP have been shocking over the past parliament
And I fear for my DCs future if we get independence

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How do you think the UK Government have performed since September 2014?

Because, although we’re allowed to do bits and pieces, they’re still in charge of the shitshow that is currently the UK. All debts, no assets.

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XDownwiththissortofthingX · 17/04/2026 14:39

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 21:08

Are they ?
I am not
I am simply saying that in my opinion the SNP have been shocking over the past parliament
And I fear for my DCs future if we get independence

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And I fear for my DCs future if we get independence

But apparently no such concerns with being hitched to a neighbour that is showing every sign of heading for Fascism, has mismanaged the UK's resources and economy for decades, took away your DC's freedom of movement and right to work within the EU, has dragged the UK into illegal wars on the flimsiest of pretences etc etc

Of course, there are no successful self-governing nations anywhere on the planet... Oh wait, it's the norm practically everywhere else, including in all the nations who have opted for Independence from the UK, not one of which has ever come crawling back crying about having made a mistake.

Honestly. We're the only place on the planet where so many are convinced they would be incapable of doing something that is perfectly mundane.

celticnations · 17/04/2026 13:59

@Motheranddaughter I would agree.

Devolution has been damaged by a failure to get on with the day job. And independence - like Brexit - is a leap of faith.

But. Where has being in the union got us?

Poverty?
Improper political representation? (Something the 13 Colonies had something to say about)
Two dodgy wars?
Isolated from Europe?

I fear for my family's future.

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 21:08

celticnations · 16/04/2026 20:28

But people are decrying Holyrood vs Westminster.

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Are they ?
I am not
I am simply saying that in my opinion the SNP have been shocking over the past parliament
And I fear for my DCs future if we get independence

celticnations · 16/04/2026 20:47

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 15:31

I don’t want independence so would never vote SNP

And that is absolutely fair enough.

celticnations · 16/04/2026 20:35

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 12:42

This is not true

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Quote "Under the 1998 act, the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland can decide to hold a border poll at any time, provided that there has not been another border poll in the last seven years. The act also imposes a duty on the Secretary of State to hold a border poll if it appears likely that a majority of people in Northern Ireland would vote for Irish unification". Unquote.

Back to Scotland.

If Farage (doubtful looking now) became UK PM, 58% of Scots would want independence. So a majority is likely. And it has been more than 7 years.

What unionists want is no change until they're dead & gone. Be that 20 or 50 years away. That is undemocratic & arrogant.

celticnations · 16/04/2026 20:33

ProudAmberTurtle · 13/04/2026 07:55

This is not true. Scotland runs a large net fiscal deficit and receives a substantial implicit transfer from the rest of the UK (predominantly England, as it is ~84% of the UK population and economy).
Latest GERS (2024-25): Scotland's net fiscal deficit is £26.2–26.5 billion (11.6–11.7% of GDP).1b71ca
UK-wide deficit: 5.1% of GDP.

Implied transfer to Scotland: Roughly £14–15 billion per year (the gap between Scotland's actual deficit and its population share of the UK deficit). This equates to ~£2,600+ per person higher public spending than the UK average.

Scotland raises roughly the UK-average revenue per head but benefits from much higher spending per head (via the Barnett formula and other mechanisms). This redistribution comes overwhelmingly from England's taxpayers.

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Have you factored in Defence?

Only England wants nukes.

celticnations · 16/04/2026 20:28

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 12:42

We are talking about Scotland on this thread

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But people are decrying Holyrood vs Westminster.

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/04/2026 18:51

I always vote, women died for my right to vote so I will always turn up at the polling station no matter how disappointed I am by the choices on offer.

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Differentforgirls · 16/04/2026 18:44

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/04/2026 18:14

Anyone would be better!

Aren’t you going to vote?

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ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/04/2026 18:14

Anyone would be better!

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Differentforgirls · 16/04/2026 17:12

ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/04/2026 16:48

I don’t want independence and I want a good government for the next five years so I can’t vote SNP

As above. Who will you vote for?

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Differentforgirls · 16/04/2026 17:12

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 15:31

I don’t want independence so would never vote SNP

So who will you vote for?

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ohnonotthisargumentagain · 16/04/2026 16:48

I don’t want independence and I want a good government for the next five years so I can’t vote SNP

Motheranddaughter · 16/04/2026 15:31

I don’t want independence so would never vote SNP

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Differentforgirls · 16/04/2026 14:45

InconsequentialFerret · 16/04/2026 14:33

Can't remember if it was this thread or the other one about these elections, but I suggested that a party who took a neutral stance would probably do better. Obviously not the Conservative and Unionist Party!

But I think if Labour unhooked themselves from this pretty binary issue, and said they accepted some of their voters were for and some against (because there's a not insubstantial percentage of YES voters already voting for them that they could increase), they might do better.

I don't think they did themselves any favours by being seen on the same platform as the Tories back in 2014 tbh.

There's a big neutral space waiting to be filled imo. Until someone moves into it, not much will change because there are too many pro-Union parties for any one of them to succeed.

It seems daft that a decade after the landscape changed completely parties keep doing the same thing to try and win back power. Time to change tack.

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“Better Together”, was the worst thing all three unionist parties did imo, because all three had people who wanted Indy and still do. So, agree with you but we’re no better.

This alliance thing. “Independence, nothing less”. WTF? I’m voting for my Government for the next five years.

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InconsequentialFerret · 16/04/2026 14:33

Differentforgirls · 16/04/2026 14:10

It’s depressing tbh because the main three “unionist” parties make that their identity. I have friends and family who vote Labour, but would still vote yes. I used to until JS died and we got TB.

For all the “unionist” voters on here. If you’re voting tactically to get somebody out rather than in, think how your votes could matter to the party you actually want to win.

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Can't remember if it was this thread or the other one about these elections, but I suggested that a party who took a neutral stance would probably do better. Obviously not the Conservative and Unionist Party!

But I think if Labour unhooked themselves from this pretty binary issue, and said they accepted some of their voters were for and some against (because there's a not insubstantial percentage of YES voters already voting for them that they could increase), they might do better.

I don't think they did themselves any favours by being seen on the same platform as the Tories back in 2014 tbh.

There's a big neutral space waiting to be filled imo. Until someone moves into it, not much will change because there are too many pro-Union parties for any one of them to succeed.

It seems daft that a decade after the landscape changed completely parties keep doing the same thing to try and win back power. Time to change tack.