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Why is socialism viewed so negatively in politics and media?

630 replies

Vix150 · 08/04/2026 23:37

Why do people not like socialism?

To me it doesn't seem disastrous but it's portrayed in the media as a horrific way for a society to run.

Any thoughts?

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EveyHammond · 12/04/2026 18:16

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 18:15

Good luck with that.

Edited

chances are the current billionaire owners of the current media would never allow it, but overall that would be a better model for society

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 18:15

Good luck with that.

EveyHammond · 12/04/2026 17:49

Basic Outline: Media Run by University Professors
1. Leadership

  • Media organisations would be run by groups of university professors instead of business executives.
  • Different subjects (politics, science, economics, etc.) would each have their own experts in charge.
2. Content Creation
  • Professors and researchers would create the main content.
  • Students and junior academics could help write and research stories.
3. Fact-Checking
  • Before anything is published, it would be checked by other experts in the same field.
  • The focus would be on accuracy rather than speed.
4. Types of Content
  • Quick updates for breaking news.
  • Longer explanations that give background and context.
  • In-depth reports for more complex topics.
5. Style of Reporting
  • Less sensational headlines and more focus on facts.
  • Clear explanation of sources and evidence.
  • Different viewpoints shown if experts disagree.
6. Technology
  • Online platforms where people can read, watch, and explore topics.
  • Links to studies or data so people can check information themselves.
7. Funding
  • Funded by governments, universities, or charities.
  • Possibly some subscriptions, but basic information stays free.
8. Main Goal
  • To inform and educate the public rather than entertain or make profit.
MeetMeOnTheCorner · 12/04/2026 09:51

@GarlicFind High spending by the state makes tax payers poorer. Far more productivity is needed by those working to pay for socialist policies. We have many socialist policies - the nhs for a start. A wide ranging benefits system and free schooling. The problem is, as Rachel Reeves realises, productivity and higher taxes pays for this. People are mostly resistant to higher taxes. Socialists also take assets from private companies for the state. I’m not happy with that concept. It’s legalized robbery. For most industries nationalized in the 1940s, it didn’t work out well and continued state handouts ensued. Again, it cost a lot with no benefits to anyone. Let business run business but make sure there are controls firmly in place for essential services. Essentially, most countries cannot afford left wing socialism but like a hybrid model that’s more affordable.

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 09:50

EveyHammond · 12/04/2026 09:39

so what makes a average journalist special ?

Nothing makes an average journalist special. No more special than an average anything else? But they are more qualified to do their job than someone qualified for a different job. And journalism is only part of 'media'. It takes digital, technical, printing, design, advertising, editorial, business etc specialism and most importantly networks and connections.

EveyHammond · 12/04/2026 09:39

so what makes a average journalist special ?

TheFatRat · 12/04/2026 09:34

I worked for years alongside university professors and my take on this is most of them are good in their field, but useless outside of it. My level of education is not as high as theirs, but I was shocked at how clueless some of them were and I am talking about completing basic tasks and having an awareness of activities around them. Plus most are very left wing. Why should they be in charge of the media.

The engineering tutors were the most switched on, but nevertheless I would not like them in charge of our media.

We may as well choose butchers or bakers or candlestick makers.

Imdunfer · 12/04/2026 08:32

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 08:26

Or the range of skills required in media.

No, it would be interesting to see how University Professors could have delivered a multi page exposé in the Times about the origins of the Covid virus. Or run the Daily Mail campaign to bring the killers of Stephen Lawrence to justice.

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 08:26

Imdunfer · 12/04/2026 08:23

University Professors?

I'm not sure I want my news delivered by an expert in medieval poetry or quantum physics.

I don't think you understand much about academics?

Or the range of skills required in media.

Imdunfer · 12/04/2026 08:23

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 19:49

overall better qualified and they in theory are very knowledgeable.

University Professors?

I'm not sure I want my news delivered by an expert in medieval poetry or quantum physics.

I don't think you understand much about academics?

Imdunfer · 12/04/2026 08:18

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 18:46

most of the media should be disbanded

Because getting your news and analysis from your Insta feed is so much better?

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 07:08

Pineneedlesincarpet · 12/04/2026 07:05

They also have a tendency to be on the left.

I think that depends on the subject actually, but yes, they are pretty detached from reality and indulge in a lot of luxury beliefs. The worst kind of middle class 'socialists' in my experience.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 12/04/2026 07:05

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 06:44

You can't be serious, its a ridiculous idea. Completely different skill sets, completely different pace. The media is fast paced, the whole point of academia is that it is slow. Academics are specialists, editors and journalists need to have wide ranging interests if not be generalists. A few could do it - some do dabble a bit in journalism but university professors would generally be hopeless at it.

They also have a tendency to be on the left.

SharonEllis · 12/04/2026 06:44

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 22:54

the key is many of them not one or 2

You can't be serious, its a ridiculous idea. Completely different skill sets, completely different pace. The media is fast paced, the whole point of academia is that it is slow. Academics are specialists, editors and journalists need to have wide ranging interests if not be generalists. A few could do it - some do dabble a bit in journalism but university professors would generally be hopeless at it.

Jeantheoldbean · 11/04/2026 23:40

It’s viewed negatively because of the negative effect it has on people’s lives. Look at what Labour have done to the country in just two years ….and that’s the diet version of socialism.

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 22:54

SharonEllis · 11/04/2026 21:35

You have obviously never met one!

the key is many of them not one or 2

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 22:54

Wintersonata · 11/04/2026 20:10

university professors should be judge jury and executioner's

They’ll be kept busy, monitoring and censoring the World Wide Web!

not with the power of supercomputers / Gchq etc

GarlicFind · 11/04/2026 22:21

Pacificsunshine · 11/04/2026 20:43

There is negativity around socialism because it makes societies poorer, and involves state coercion because so many people resist its requirements.

Which socialist policies make societies poorer and have to be coercively applied?

SharonEllis · 11/04/2026 21:35

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 19:49

overall better qualified and they in theory are very knowledgeable.

You have obviously never met one!

Pacificsunshine · 11/04/2026 20:43

There is negativity around socialism because it makes societies poorer, and involves state coercion because so many people resist its requirements.

Wintersonata · 11/04/2026 20:10

university professors should be judge jury and executioner's

They’ll be kept busy, monitoring and censoring the World Wide Web!

Wintersonata · 11/04/2026 20:07

@SisterTeatime thank you for answering my question.

MNLurker1345 · 11/04/2026 20:03

EveyHammond · 11/04/2026 19:44

university professors should be judge jury and executioner's

Interesting point of view, explain, we are listening!

SisterTeatime · 11/04/2026 20:00

Wintersonata · 11/04/2026 19:38

I have come to realise that many of the serious mistakes made in and by the West in the 20th century (often heavily criticised by those on the left today) were driven by an absolute terror of communism (actual communism

@SisterTeatime which serious mistakes?

Nazi Germany. US interference in Central and South America. The Vietnam War.

It’s a broad brush take, of course, but I think it’s valid.

FKAT · 11/04/2026 19:56

I've been to Miami (essentially a Cuban built city) and I've been to Cuba. I only saw people trying to escape from one to the other in one direction - and it wasn't towards socialism.

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