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Why isn’t Trump being overthrown?

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itsneverdullinull · 08/03/2026 07:39

I’m sorry if this is a really thick question but I’m guessing that the answers will be multi-faceted.

Why isn’t Trump being overthrown internally in the US? He is presiding over a shit show and trampling over the constitution from what I understand. But there doesn’t seem to be massive resistance to this (or at least none reported). Can anyone explain why this is, please. Genuine question.

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MsAmerica · 11/04/2026 00:44

twentyeightfishinthepond · 08/04/2026 15:52

I noticed Hegseth was “talking Trump” this afternoon, with his “we won “ and “we could take it all “ stupidly. Why can’t they see that people just hear them as children. Even amongst their base, they should poll people on it, especially women.

I don't regard them as children. I regard them as a menace.

IdentityCris · 09/04/2026 10:02

twentyeightfishinthepond · 08/04/2026 15:52

I noticed Hegseth was “talking Trump” this afternoon, with his “we won “ and “we could take it all “ stupidly. Why can’t they see that people just hear them as children. Even amongst their base, they should poll people on it, especially women.

I think he's only concerned about how Trump will take it, and possibly Trump's MAGA supporters who are stupid enough only to want to hear the good news rather than the real news.

Honestyboxy · 08/04/2026 21:08

Did anyone listen to JD Vance answering questions beside a jet with its engines running on the news? I was gobsmacked at his analogy about Iran not being able to do something just because it could. He likened it to his wife being able to jump out of a plane but because he’s told her not to, she doesn’t! Has he no idea how that comes across??

twentyeightfishinthepond · 08/04/2026 15:52

I noticed Hegseth was “talking Trump” this afternoon, with his “we won “ and “we could take it all “ stupidly. Why can’t they see that people just hear them as children. Even amongst their base, they should poll people on it, especially women.

MsAmerica · 08/04/2026 02:11

daisychain01 · 06/04/2026 08:24

You'd think there was someone amongst the US population of c340m who'd make a good president, until you realise that what it takes is someone, anyone who is rich enough.

You have to be monumentally wealthy, that's all it takes, not talent, not intelligence, not strategic thinking, not military prowess, just $$$$$$$$mega bucks.

Depressing.

Personally, I think the single best person for the presidency right now is Hillary Clinton - and that's been the case for years.

MushMonster · 06/04/2026 08:47

I know! It is maddening!
Even in UK, in the Manchester elections with Burham. Starmer was saying that it will take at least a million for Burham to campaign. And.. why? Why does it yake so much money? We should use national TV to broadcast the candidates interviews and debates. Social media is rather cheap too. I think, we, the citizens, need to get much more involved. Reclaim what being able to vote means. What can happen if we do not take it seriously enough. And Democracies need to sit and find out a way where the amount of money you throw into a campaign is not the factor that decides who will win. But a system that favours people with principles. At least some principles.

daisychain01 · 06/04/2026 08:24

You'd think there was someone amongst the US population of c340m who'd make a good president, until you realise that what it takes is someone, anyone who is rich enough.

You have to be monumentally wealthy, that's all it takes, not talent, not intelligence, not strategic thinking, not military prowess, just $$$$$$$$mega bucks.

Depressing.

Mischance · 05/04/2026 09:49

But there must be a limited number of these people - surely to god there are some sane caring people in US. Please!

Caught a bit of Rory Stewart on radio - he is over there at present at Yale and he said there is a real change of tone - that people are just letting it all wash by them rather than speak out.

twentyeightfishinthepond · 05/04/2026 09:40

His deputies aren’t preferable, unfortunately. Their politics are as awful as his.

Mischance · 05/04/2026 09:37

I think he admires dictators that stay in power so long, he aspires to that.

He may admire them, but one cannot but hope that some people somewhere in the US actually value democracy - hence the general puzzlement as to why no-one has found a way to give him the boot. Dictators and democracy should not be co-existing in the same nation.

Apparently, according to his "spiritual advisor (god help us!) , he is Jesus Christ - what hope is there?

twentyeightfishinthepond · 05/04/2026 09:21

I may be far fetched here, but I
read the headline about the rescued missing airman this morning and thought, oh he invented that story. I think people go missing or die in war all the time, and leaders aren’t often that keen to talk about them. A three day search and a find? I don’t think so. As soon as they started looking for him and Trump discussing it, it was obvious what the outcome would have to be.

GentleSheep · 05/04/2026 01:39

MsAmerica · 05/04/2026 00:45

Personally, I'm convinced that there is some Russia/Putin connection that is not yet known - and might have come to light if only the Mueller investigation had probed further.

I think he admires dictators that stay in power so long, he aspires to that. As to why isn't he being overthrown, I do think he still has a lot of support in the US, and when any leader is in power they're not that easily deposed.

Watching that extremely weird speech Trump's 'pastor' Paula White gave where she equated the betrayal and arrest of Jesus Christ with Trump's apparent 'betrayal and arrest', and then everyone got up and applauded her whilst Trump grinned like a Cheshire cat, made me think of King Nebuchadnezzar and his court of magicians and sorcerors. That's pretty much who's in charge over there. Do they all actually believe in Trump that much? Or just going along with it because they're too scared not to? These are the things I ruminate on at 1:40 a.m. with a gale blowing outside.

MsAmerica · 05/04/2026 00:47

TalkToTheHand123 · 26/03/2026 08:02

No it is not.

Trump attacked Iran in the absence of a declaration of war, during negotiations, in the absence of an attack by Iran!

MsAmerica · 05/04/2026 00:45

Alexandra2001 · 04/04/2026 07:13

FOX knows, we all know but Trump has the power to wreck careers, perhaps even put on trial anyone who opposes him, even the heads of law enforcement.... he even got an ex POTUS in front of a congressional hearing, yet he (Trump) is immune form such questioning, despite his very strong links to Epstein.

Something i just read:

"He (trump) may not be a Russian agent. But if he were, what would he be doing differently"

USA is blockading Cuba, causing great suffering and death to the Cubans, a Russian oil tanker allowed through, Trump says "No problem with that..."

Personal opinion he is either is a Russian stooge/admires the Russian way of doing things or has some form of Dementia, nothing else explains his behaviors.

Personally, I'm convinced that there is some Russia/Putin connection that is not yet known - and might have come to light if only the Mueller investigation had probed further.

MushMonster · 04/04/2026 11:14

Mischance · 04/04/2026 10:14

There have already been US deaths and injuries - I am very surprised that Trump is not facing a revolt from the populus to whom he made a promise of no wars during the election.

That was yesterday. Now it has changed to we cannot take care of day care. We are a big country, we are at war. We cannot take care of day care, medicare, medicaid.... it will have to be looked after locally. I need some many extra billions for my list of abroad wars. His budget is the huggest, besttest, biggest ever for War (that not Defence!).
This man has a very very hard neck.
He ascended to power on the back of this promise: American money spent on Americans, not wars abroad. Well, here we are. Not only in Iran, while Cuba is marinating. But he wants a huge defence budget. That he and his buddies will spend on their own companies, of course!

TulipsDaffsAndSunshine · 04/04/2026 10:16

PersephoneParlormaid · 08/03/2026 07:41

Plenty of people would like to get rid of Starmer but that’s not happening either.

Really not comparable

Mischance · 04/04/2026 10:14

There have already been US deaths and injuries - I am very surprised that Trump is not facing a revolt from the populus to whom he made a promise of no wars during the election.

Maggiethecat · 04/04/2026 10:06

MushMonster · 04/04/2026 07:07

If you listen to Fox News, it is like a different world unveiling in front of your eyes. They really think that Trump is projecting the US strength in the Iranian conflict.
They seem blind to a rambling president who contradicts himself every two sentences, a president who is working really hard to allienate the US historical allies while constantly "asking" for their intervention in the SoH, a president who underestimates the country they are about to go to war with, who does not prepare for war, who does not even know what this war is for, who cannot keep hold of Netanyahu during this joined endevour, who seems to be playing up with the oil markets, who has triggered a crash in the world's economy and actual supply of vital shipments, who has not found the uranium, who is failing to bring Iran to negotiations, who has risked the US relationship with the Gulf States by starting this without talking to them and now news refer to some weapons sales from his own sons, plus some noise about how those who use SoH should pay for the war....
I mean, the list is LONG! And I have not even menytioned DOGE, ICE, Venezuela, Canada and Greenland... and the East wing of the White House.....
How is it possible that the guys in Fox are not realising that Trump has sunk the US in a spiral of isolation? This of having access denied to bases and airspace is going to spread worldwide, for starters.
I suppose they think we are all afraid of US and we are ready to hand in our sovereignity with trembling knees. But the world is not going to forget this one in a hurry. The price of this war will not only be paid in blood and $. It is going to have a massive loss of US international power attached to it.

Apart from in a very expensive bed how does Murdoch sleep at night allowing his network to propagate the sycophantic support of Trump knowing that there is an American demographic that uncuriously laps it all up.

MushMonster · 04/04/2026 07:20

I was just thinking after reading about some attacks on oil installations that this may be a petition from Russia, so the sanctions are not placed back after the war with Iran. Where else should the world get oil?
Putin is definitively the winner on this. And Trump loves him so much! It is not fear, but total love and devotion.
I am sure Trump was rather hurt when Zelensky took a central role in his Iran war with Ukraine's new drones. He must have called Putin and begged forgiveness!

Alexandra2001 · 04/04/2026 07:13

FOX knows, we all know but Trump has the power to wreck careers, perhaps even put on trial anyone who opposes him, even the heads of law enforcement.... he even got an ex POTUS in front of a congressional hearing, yet he (Trump) is immune form such questioning, despite his very strong links to Epstein.

Something i just read:

"He (trump) may not be a Russian agent. But if he were, what would he be doing differently"

USA is blockading Cuba, causing great suffering and death to the Cubans, a Russian oil tanker allowed through, Trump says "No problem with that..."

Personal opinion he is either is a Russian stooge/admires the Russian way of doing things or has some form of Dementia, nothing else explains his behaviors.

Honestyboxy · 04/04/2026 07:11

MushMonster · 04/04/2026 07:07

If you listen to Fox News, it is like a different world unveiling in front of your eyes. They really think that Trump is projecting the US strength in the Iranian conflict.
They seem blind to a rambling president who contradicts himself every two sentences, a president who is working really hard to allienate the US historical allies while constantly "asking" for their intervention in the SoH, a president who underestimates the country they are about to go to war with, who does not prepare for war, who does not even know what this war is for, who cannot keep hold of Netanyahu during this joined endevour, who seems to be playing up with the oil markets, who has triggered a crash in the world's economy and actual supply of vital shipments, who has not found the uranium, who is failing to bring Iran to negotiations, who has risked the US relationship with the Gulf States by starting this without talking to them and now news refer to some weapons sales from his own sons, plus some noise about how those who use SoH should pay for the war....
I mean, the list is LONG! And I have not even menytioned DOGE, ICE, Venezuela, Canada and Greenland... and the East wing of the White House.....
How is it possible that the guys in Fox are not realising that Trump has sunk the US in a spiral of isolation? This of having access denied to bases and airspace is going to spread worldwide, for starters.
I suppose they think we are all afraid of US and we are ready to hand in our sovereignity with trembling knees. But the world is not going to forget this one in a hurry. The price of this war will not only be paid in blood and $. It is going to have a massive loss of US international power attached to it.

Absolutely this. The lunatic is in charge of the asylum.

MushMonster · 04/04/2026 07:07

If you listen to Fox News, it is like a different world unveiling in front of your eyes. They really think that Trump is projecting the US strength in the Iranian conflict.
They seem blind to a rambling president who contradicts himself every two sentences, a president who is working really hard to allienate the US historical allies while constantly "asking" for their intervention in the SoH, a president who underestimates the country they are about to go to war with, who does not prepare for war, who does not even know what this war is for, who cannot keep hold of Netanyahu during this joined endevour, who seems to be playing up with the oil markets, who has triggered a crash in the world's economy and actual supply of vital shipments, who has not found the uranium, who is failing to bring Iran to negotiations, who has risked the US relationship with the Gulf States by starting this without talking to them and now news refer to some weapons sales from his own sons, plus some noise about how those who use SoH should pay for the war....
I mean, the list is LONG! And I have not even menytioned DOGE, ICE, Venezuela, Canada and Greenland... and the East wing of the White House.....
How is it possible that the guys in Fox are not realising that Trump has sunk the US in a spiral of isolation? This of having access denied to bases and airspace is going to spread worldwide, for starters.
I suppose they think we are all afraid of US and we are ready to hand in our sovereignity with trembling knees. But the world is not going to forget this one in a hurry. The price of this war will not only be paid in blood and $. It is going to have a massive loss of US international power attached to it.

MsAmerica · 04/04/2026 01:28

JustSawJohnny · 25/03/2026 00:19

You may not like him but he's not a sex offender with dementia who's starting illegal wars, is he? 🙄

sigh
Pretty low bar.

MsAmerica · 04/04/2026 01:25

powershowerforanhour · 24/03/2026 21:13

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The non decent ones will turn on him in a heartbeat when the stock market goes through the floor and the price at the pump goes through the roof. “It’s the economy, stupid”."

This- it's always this. I hope and expect that when the time comes, the personality cult goes with him- Vance doesn't have the style- and all his yes men get scapegoated, blamed for propping him up and washed anyway. I don't know who is going to get the job of diverting the rivers to hose through the Augean stables of selfish incompetents and clear up the mess. Perhaps a woman- when there's shit all over the carpet and the walls and the ceiling, it'll be a woman's job to clear it up, then she can be pushed out of the way so a young white man- preferably quite good looking in a wholesome all American way- reasonably decent but knows how to play the game.

Bernie Sanders is too decent and far too old. Biden was doddering and Trump is worse. I do think he has dementia and it's not even mild at this stage. I went down the rabbit hole on this a bit in the past few days, watching videos analysing his State of the Union address for example- and I do think the commentators who think he has to be whacked up to the eyeballs on go-go juice before he's wheeled on to rant for 2 hours are correct. He even forgot the word "Alzheimers" FGS.

"At a certain age, about 86, 87, he started getting, what do they call it?” Trump asked, pointing to his forehead and looking toward White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt.
“Alzheimer’s,” Leavitt replied.
“Like an Alzheimer’s thing. Well, I don’t have it,” Trump added."

The seeds of dementia are sown waaay before it is diagnosed, generally. My dad had it in his late 60s and was passing those types of cognitive tests that Trump boasts about "acing" while he had quite clearly already lost a lot of marbles and too dangerous to be off farming on his own.. By the time he was far gone enough for diagnosis he was only a couple of years away from a dementia nursing home and death followed a couple of years after that.

Trump's father had Alzheimer's, and it's supposedly inheritable.

MsAmerica · 04/04/2026 01:23

Maggiethecat · 23/03/2026 23:12

Are Americans not embarrassed by this buffoon?

He and his team had no objective or exit strategy for war against Iran, never mind anticipating Iran’s counter attack options.

He gives a 48 hour ultimatum for Iran to open up the HS and then backs down and talks about a 5 day period for discussions with Iran and if unsuccessful for the US “we’ll just keep bombing our little hearts out”.

And we thought Dubya was thick?

Embarrassed, horrified, and ashamed!

:(

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