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Gorton and Denton, what have you done?

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 08:53

You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

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BoredZelda · 28/02/2026 11:19

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:15

It was a BBC Northwest Tonight broadcast.

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Clipped in a very deliberate way.

Mt563 · 28/02/2026 11:18

saveforthat · 28/02/2026 11:13

Not sure if it was in the DM but it was absolutely true. Look it up. More recently ZP congratulated the lowlifes that got away with aggravated burglary and broke a policewoman spine. I don't know how anyone could vote for this party with such a leader.

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It's definitely true, ZP has apologised for it. Looks more like it was a one off than the basis of his bucks business but still.

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:18

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 08:53

You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

Oh please. Ppl on GB news going on about family voting even before the result was out. Same old playbook. " oh dear, a green person has won. Oh. I know. Let's find any feeble thing we can to discredit her before she even gets starred" Yawn.

BoredZelda · 28/02/2026 11:18

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 10:56

I watched the actual thing and I saw it in a TikTok snippet in my news feed again this morning. I don't have a TikTok login but you might be able to find it in A BBC Northwest Tonight feed.

Marr Goodwin asks Hannah Spencer what she think caused the Manchester Arena Bombing and she replies, as verbatim as I can remember "because people like you are dividing people".

I'm glad she explained, because I was pretty sure that Tony Blair helping the US bomb the shit out of Iraq after fabricating evidence of WMD had a fair bit more impact.

The arena bombing also predates all the divisive rhetoric other than the Brexit campaign.

Who wants an MP in Parliament who thinks blowing up people at a pop concert can be blamed on anyone but the people who made and placed the bombs?

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She did not say that in response to his question. My post above gives the actual transcript.

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:18

JLou08 · 28/02/2026 11:15

That sound very aligned with Green Party values.

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It is aligned with many of their values but their plans for how to achieve it are politically and economically naive beyond belief, or non existent.

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Wolmando · 28/02/2026 11:18

localnotail · 28/02/2026 11:17

what was the alternative? Reform? No fucking way

Not Labour then

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:18

It is. It's just a coincidence that the surname subdivides into two words that have an unfortunate connotation, @TheNuthatch .

localnotail · 28/02/2026 11:17

what was the alternative? Reform? No fucking way

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:15

DeftGoldHedgehog · 28/02/2026 11:02

Also don't believe what you see on TikTok. Or quote it in a political debate, if you want to retain any vestige of credibility.

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It was a BBC Northwest Tonight broadcast.

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JLou08 · 28/02/2026 11:15

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 09:33

I don't want us to be "Great Again".

I want us to find an equilibrium where we can enjoy our green and pleasant land, which I mean with no religious implications, and find a way to live causing minimal damage to the planet while providing a decent standard of living and health care for all our people without disadvantaging people in other countries.

I don't believe hearking back to times with a vastly different set of world trading and moral standards is in any way to be applauded.

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That sound very aligned with Green Party values.

notmuchtoit · 28/02/2026 11:15

Theunamedcat · 28/02/2026 11:13

Stop baiting there is more to that statement than racism

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You think?

Happyher · 28/02/2026 11:14

It’s a protest vote. Once people realise how batshit the current Green Party is they won’t vote for them in a general election. The media will be scalp-hunting them too now

saveforthat · 28/02/2026 11:13

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:02

Did you read that in the Daily Mail?

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Not sure if it was in the DM but it was absolutely true. Look it up. More recently ZP congratulated the lowlifes that got away with aggravated burglary and broke a policewoman spine. I don't know how anyone could vote for this party with such a leader.

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:13

soddingspiderseason · 28/02/2026 11:11

Absolutely. Tired of the right using this as a political football.

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I'll bet you are.

It was an utterly crass remark, which she handed to the right on a plate.

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GeneralPeter · 28/02/2026 11:13

WhineAndWine1 · 28/02/2026 10:38

@thisistI'm 42 and never remember it being “great”. Please say what you really mean.

In 1983/84, Britain:

Had infant mortality rate of 10 per 1,000 live births vs 70-80 globally.

Homicide rate of 1 per 100,000 vs 10 global average.

Was one of about 30 liberal democracies, of 160 countries, and with women’s legal rights far ahead of most countries (and a female head of state and PM).

GDP per capita three times the global average.

It’s a pretty cosseted view to think these things aren’t great by the standards of almost anywhere else at almost any other time.

The world has got a lot better for almost everyone extremely rapidly, mainly becuase of medicine, trade, industry, technology, the enlightenment and the international liberal order. The UK has played a hugely outsized role in each of those.

It’s pretty misanthropic to not celebrate these things and historically illiterate to ignore the role of the country where we happen to have been born in that story.

Theunamedcat · 28/02/2026 11:13

notmuchtoit · 28/02/2026 11:09

They mean there's too many brown people in GB.

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Stop baiting there is more to that statement than racism

Dollymylove · 28/02/2026 11:12

I wonder what the arena bombers victims family thought when she came out with that little pearl?
I dont like her one bit. She comes across like an enthusiastic school girl who just scored at hockey rather than a serious politician.
Someone wake me up when its all over 😴

soddingspiderseason · 28/02/2026 11:11

AStonedRose · 28/02/2026 10:58

here's the clip about the Manchester bombings: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GJE8ZS52-U

I think you have to go some way to understand her as saying what the OP is suggesting. I think it's completely fair to suggest division is a cause of conflict.

It's also worth remembering that the Muslim community of Manchester completely rejected the MEN Bomber. The local mosques refused to allow him an islamic funeral.

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Absolutely. Tired of the right using this as a political football.

notmuchtoit · 28/02/2026 11:09

BIWI · 28/02/2026 09:25

Great Britain will never be great again.

What on earth do you mean by this?

They mean there's too many brown people in GB.

soddingspiderseason · 28/02/2026 11:09

yes, that was a stupid thing to say about the Arena bombing. But - people in Manchester have chosen to back the Greens, and to say no to the division and hate of Reform. There will have been many Labour voters voting tactically to keep Reform out - I would have do e so. One by election doesn’t mean Britain is “doomed”. Its just hyperbolic nonsense.

usedtobeaylis · 28/02/2026 11:07

Saved an entire constituency from Reform. Well done. Excellent tactical voting.

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2026 11:07

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:06

That comparison is in the eye of the beholder.

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Its really not

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:06

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2026 11:05

You don't see the issue with comparing a black woman to Enoch Powell?

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That comparison is in the eye of the beholder.

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:05

AStonedRose · 28/02/2026 10:58

here's the clip about the Manchester bombings: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/GJE8ZS52-U

I think you have to go some way to understand her as saying what the OP is suggesting. I think it's completely fair to suggest division is a cause of conflict.

It's also worth remembering that the Muslim community of Manchester completely rejected the MEN Bomber. The local mosques refused to allow him an islamic funeral.

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Division is a cause of conflict. Correct.

Does that make it OK in a Democracy to blow someone up if they're saying things and causing effects that you don't like?

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TheNuthatch · 28/02/2026 11:05

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 10:47

@TheNuthatch , Your username is awful btw. Why?
I have nothing against the person whose name it resembles even if I don't necessarily agree with her politics. Would SirEddaVey be awful too.

I agree that the tories were never in the race, they barely tried as its pointless in seats like this. Same for the Lib Dems.
I agree. I'm in a Labour 'safe seat' and the Conservative and Lib Dem candidates are not normally ones I'd choose to vote for.
At the last election the Labour's majority was drastically reduced by an 'independent' who was pushing the Gaza agenda. The constituency has a large Muslim population.

I don't really understand your fear of Reform winning the mayoralty, and I don't think that assumption is necessarily correct.
It might not be correct but Reform are too far right for my liking.

You don't see the issue with comparing a black woman to Enoch Powell?