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Gorton and Denton, what have you done?

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 08:53

You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

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Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:38

RunMeOver · 28/02/2026 11:38

Really pleased the Greens won. I don't agree with all of their policies but the fact that there is SOME electoral force emerging on the left, after Starmer did everything in his power to neuter it, is incredibly refreshing.

I would say though that the most perilous threat facing the country isn't Reform or Racism. It's idiots watching politically edited tiktok videos and thinking they're expressions of objective truth.

Agreed.

RunMeOver · 28/02/2026 11:38

Really pleased the Greens won. I don't agree with all of their policies but the fact that there is SOME electoral force emerging on the left, after Starmer did everything in his power to neuter it, is incredibly refreshing.

I would say though that the most perilous threat facing the country isn't Reform or Racism. It's idiots watching politically edited tiktok videos and thinking they're expressions of objective truth.

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:37

5128gap · 28/02/2026 11:36

Men anywhere they please, because no EA means no sex based rights?

Oh dont turn it all into this again. Give it a rest.

5128gap · 28/02/2026 11:36

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 09:49

Men in women's changing rooms?

Men anywhere they please, because no EA means no sex based rights?

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2026 11:35

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:18

It is. It's just a coincidence that the surname subdivides into two words that have an unfortunate connotation, @TheNuthatch .

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An unfortunate racist connotation. Not deliberate at all, I see.

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:34

saveforthat · 28/02/2026 11:13

Not sure if it was in the DM but it was absolutely true. Look it up. More recently ZP congratulated the lowlifes that got away with aggravated burglary and broke a policewoman spine. I don't know how anyone could vote for this party with such a leader.

I don't know much about him but the 'snake oil salesman' comparison rings true.
I wouldn't vote for his party any more than I'd vote for Farage's Far Right one.

I'm not comfortable with the way someone is seen as a good leader when they don't appear to me that they are good people.

People who are decent an intelligent are being criticised but the populist leaders seem to be revered.

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:34

Allisnotlost1 · 28/02/2026 11:30

Also untrue. He was a hypnotherapist, the ‘breast enlarging’ was done one time at the request of the client, who it turned out was a journalist.

Im starting to wonder if you’re part of the propaganda. Last few times I’ve seen you on threads you’ve been pro-immigration. Trojan horse?

Oh no. Not that old crap again. Change the record..

saveforthat · 28/02/2026 11:34

BoredZelda · 28/02/2026 11:28

Again, this is a (I assume deliberate) attempt to re-frame, by misreporting what actually happened. He did not congratulate them. Not even close.

https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/police-federation-rebukes-polanski-over-silence-on-sledgehammer-attack-at-elbit-protest/

PandoraSocks · 28/02/2026 11:32

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:31

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I can still see it.

BoredZelda · 28/02/2026 11:32

Bromptotoo · 28/02/2026 11:24

Is there a source for this with exact words used and context?

The whole debate is here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98q4e59rj9o

The part of the discussion this relates to starts at 33:25.

Five candidates for the Gorton and Denton By-election in the North West Tonight studio with its BBC election backdrop and the Houses of Parliament.
From left: Charlotte Cadden (Conservative) has short blonde hair, black glasses, a white top and bright...

Gorton and Denton by-election debate as candidates go head-to-head

Gorton and Denton by-election candidates from five parties go head to head in a BBC debate.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98q4e59rj9o

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:32

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:31

Allisnotlost1 · 28/02/2026 11:27

You should watch again and/or seek out varied sources. That’s not what was said. https://x.com/leeharris/status/2024109242651729946/mediaviewer

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Allisnotlost1 · 28/02/2026 11:30

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:01

How many people, I wonder, know that Zack Polanski used to make his living as David Paulden selling hypnotherapy to women as a way to increase their breast size?

Also untrue. He was a hypnotherapist, the ‘breast enlarging’ was done one time at the request of the client, who it turned out was a journalist.

Im starting to wonder if you’re part of the propaganda. Last few times I’ve seen you on threads you’ve been pro-immigration. Trojan horse?

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:29

soddingspiderseason · 28/02/2026 11:25

Yes, one vey ill judged remark. The quote I was responding to was that the Muslim community of Manchester were utterly horrified by the bombing, and Manchester as a city came together as one community to reject the kind of hate and division that the right tried to peddle at that time. Manchester rejected the right again on Thursday. And yet here you are, peddling that same division.

In what way am I peddling division? Have you made one huge and incidentally incorrect assumption that I wanted Reform to win?

I think Reform are a busted flush in terms of forming a government since they took in the Tory waifs and strays.

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BoredZelda · 28/02/2026 11:28

saveforthat · 28/02/2026 11:13

Not sure if it was in the DM but it was absolutely true. Look it up. More recently ZP congratulated the lowlifes that got away with aggravated burglary and broke a policewoman spine. I don't know how anyone could vote for this party with such a leader.

Again, this is a (I assume deliberate) attempt to re-frame, by misreporting what actually happened. He did not congratulate them. Not even close.

Allisnotlost1 · 28/02/2026 11:27

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 10:56

I watched the actual thing and I saw it in a TikTok snippet in my news feed again this morning. I don't have a TikTok login but you might be able to find it in A BBC Northwest Tonight feed.

Marr Goodwin asks Hannah Spencer what she think caused the Manchester Arena Bombing and she replies, as verbatim as I can remember "because people like you are dividing people".

I'm glad she explained, because I was pretty sure that Tony Blair helping the US bomb the shit out of Iraq after fabricating evidence of WMD had a fair bit more impact.

The arena bombing also predates all the divisive rhetoric other than the Brexit campaign.

Who wants an MP in Parliament who thinks blowing up people at a pop concert can be blamed on anyone but the people who made and placed the bombs?

You should watch again and/or seek out varied sources. That’s not what was said. https://x.com/leeharris/status/2024109242651729946/mediaviewer

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:25

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 28/02/2026 10:28

I absolutely don't want men in women's changing rooms.

But I want a Reform government even less.

I think a Green government would be incredibly damaging. A Reform government would be catastrophic.

Agree.

holdtheline11 · 28/02/2026 11:25

Oh what are you on about. It's a great result!

soddingspiderseason · 28/02/2026 11:25

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:13

I'll bet you are.

It was an utterly crass remark, which she handed to the right on a plate.

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Yes, one vey ill judged remark. The quote I was responding to was that the Muslim community of Manchester were utterly horrified by the bombing, and Manchester as a city came together as one community to reject the kind of hate and division that the right tried to peddle at that time. Manchester rejected the right again on Thursday. And yet here you are, peddling that same division.

Bromptotoo · 28/02/2026 11:24

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 08:53

You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

Is there a source for this with exact words used and context?

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:23

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 09:54

It's not a pivot at all. It's a Green policy and the poster said they would accept anything to keep Reform out. I want to know if she includes all the effects of defining female identified trans men as biological women.

On top of blaming a massacre of innocents at a pop concert on people concerned about immigration.

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Go Greens. Most sensible party out there. They are human scale. Not like other parties out to line their own pockets and their billionaire friends..Go Greens. Go all the way !!

ginasevern · 28/02/2026 11:23

80smonster · 28/02/2026 10:27

ARRGGGH! clutches pearls. NOT MEN?

I’ve used the men’s loos loads of times. Occasionally, if I’m really busting (and it’s empty), I use the disabled or baby change. Am I a man or a baby or a disabled person? Nope, do I need a piss - yes. But what’s your tangential point? Surely there must be one…

I'm assuming you can't see any negatives in men having totally unrestricted access to women's spaces or services? Even though men are women's greatest predator and violence against women and girls is at epidemic levels. I also assume that you'd be entirely comfortable sharing a rape crisis centre with men? If so, you really, really are quite the outlier. Your comment about pearl clutching is am immature attempt to diminish the obvious dangers of allowing men into any and all women only spaces. But if you (and your daughters if you have any) are happy to give men a free pass without question to those spaces and services then crack on.

Jlom · 28/02/2026 11:22

Om83 · 28/02/2026 10:53

My feeling about the greens policies are that most of them are good, as in they come from a place of ethics and morality, a focus on the environment and the people, a focus on moving closer to Europe, offer a welcome change. I don’t agree with everything- I don’t want self identification of men saying they are women, but this is one issue and as we know policies do get u turned or adapted in a way to best suit the feeling of the country.

I haven’t read anything about ‘open borders’ but do agree with them that we need a better way to handle migration than what is happening now- I have no problem at all with skilled ‘outsiders’ living in this country and working here and contributing to our economy, and the systems in place to support that properly.

I also like how they would stop the first past the post voting system we have and make sure the NHS and education improves.

I don’t see how greens are crazy for actually being decent human beings and wanting to put people’s needs and the environment first???

All parties want better education, better living standards, better environment, better nhs etc. why wouldn't they? It would be wonderful for everyone and keep them in power for ages. The problem is that those things cost a huge amount of money and someone has to pay for them. Apparently that is the Billionaires. If the Greens got in, the number of Billionaires in the UK would go from very few to none. Even if some billionaires stayed it wouldn't makea dent. Which means the Greens are lying or very bad at maths.

The reality of having the Greens in power is that the country would get poorer and everyone's standard of living would get worse, except for the Billionaires who would have moved to another country.

NoWordForFluffy · 28/02/2026 11:21

boredsolicitor · 28/02/2026 09:52

did You hear the reform candidates graceless speech about losing because of islamists ? Ugh what a relief they didn’t win . I’m scared of their idea about what makes Britain ‘great’ . Flag shagging misogynistic thick twats!

The Greens are also misogynistic, given they think that men can be women and wish to destroy women's rights (because there can be no women's rights if men are included).

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:19

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:18

Oh please. Ppl on GB news going on about family voting even before the result was out. Same old playbook. " oh dear, a green person has won. Oh. I know. Let's find any feeble thing we can to discredit her before she even gets starred" Yawn.

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