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Gorton and Denton, what have you done?

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Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 08:53

You have elected as an MP to stand in the UK&NI parliament a person who said in a panel interview with Annabel Tiffin from BBC Northwest Tonight that the Manchester Arena bombing was caused by people sewing division by questioning immigration.

That statement is so outrageous I don't even know where to start.

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80smonster · 28/02/2026 12:16

‘I saw it in a Tiktok snippet’, give me strength. The politically incompetent now soak up highly edited reels that deliberately seek to mislead and misrepresent the context. Then parrot them back to support their own views of bigotry and racism.

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2026 12:16

cricketnut77 · 28/02/2026 12:15

I feel quite nostalgic for the old Green Party, of organic farming, anti whaling, bicycles, nuclear disarmament, anti pollution and localism. The current incarnation is a dangerous mix of Marxism and Islamism. I can't believe any grown up adult would vote for them.

Me too. I quite liked the old version of the greens.

shuggles · 28/02/2026 12:16

Betterbelieveit · 28/02/2026 09:45

Who named Britain "Great"? And was it really great? Going around the world slaughtering people and stealing their land is not great by any standards.

It's "great" meaning "large" or "immense," not "excellent."

Great Britain is the big Britain, as opposed to Brittany, or little Britain

cricketnut77 · 28/02/2026 12:15

I feel quite nostalgic for the old Green Party, of organic farming, anti whaling, bicycles, nuclear disarmament, anti pollution and localism. The current incarnation is a dangerous mix of Marxism and Islamism. I can't believe any grown up adult would vote for them.

TrashHeap · 28/02/2026 12:13

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Marmalademorning · 28/02/2026 12:13

Wellthisisdifficult · 28/02/2026 12:11

So you think it’s ok to have sympathy with the Manchester arena bomber?

Exactly. These people are thick.

AStonedRose · 28/02/2026 12:13

Wellthisisdifficult · 28/02/2026 12:11

So you think it’s ok to have sympathy with the Manchester arena bomber?

what drugs are you on? Who has said that?

The Muslim community of Manchester completely rejected him. They refused him an islamic burial.

You're stirring hate. You should be ashamed. Stop it.

Wellthisisdifficult · 28/02/2026 12:12

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I think most people will cry about having an MP in parliament who seeks to justify terrorism on UK soil. Do you also think terrorism on UK soil is justified?

Wellthisisdifficult · 28/02/2026 12:11

easysundaytea · 28/02/2026 09:30

Go Greens!

So you think it’s ok to have sympathy with the Manchester arena bomber?

TrashHeap · 28/02/2026 12:10

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AStonedRose · 28/02/2026 12:09

cardibach · 28/02/2026 12:08

Lucky others have proved you alternative links to the whole discussion upthread then.

And I suggest people watch it. Because there's no way she's saying what the OP is (shitstirringly) suggesting she is. People can make their own minds up.

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 12:09

BeAmberZebra · 28/02/2026 12:02

Various sources including Zack/David confirmed this did happen.

It's such a minor thing he has already talked about. And the name difference is just about with him having taken other family name I think. Not some svengali identity trick. But hey, if it was in DM it must be gospell, right. Coz we all know DM hasnt got an agenda or anything like that. 😂

BeAmberZebra · 28/02/2026 12:09

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A completely reasonable and evidence based response 😂😂😂. Not at all unhinged. 🤷🏻‍♀️

placemats · 28/02/2026 12:09

HelenaWaiting · 28/02/2026 12:07

Who named Britain "Great"?
The Romans.

And was it really great?

Yes. "Great" refers to the size of the land mass in comparison to the other British Isles. HTH

What other British isles would those be?

Frugalgal · 28/02/2026 12:09

ThingsAreNotWhatTheyWere · 28/02/2026 11:00

I very much agree with this. Neither extreme is good, but if I were forced to choose, I'd have to take my chance with the Greens.
Not a great place for the country to be in.

Yes, same.

If you're concerned after all with the rights of women, a Farage led government would be a catastrophe. He's employed James Orr, a notorious far right anti women ideologue, who would ban all abortion even in cases of rape.

Farage is in the pocket of American religious extremists and is already talking about restricting abortion. They'll be keeping very quiet about it until they get elected.

I dont want men in women's spaces either but that's much easier dealt with.

cardibach · 28/02/2026 12:08

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:31

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Lucky others have proved you alternative links to the whole discussion upthread then.

cardibach · 28/02/2026 12:07

Imdunfer · 28/02/2026 11:29

In what way am I peddling division? Have you made one huge and incidentally incorrect assumption that I wanted Reform to win?

I think Reform are a busted flush in terms of forming a government since they took in the Tory waifs and strays.

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You don't like them because they’ve taken in some Tories? So you agree with their very right wing, divisive agenda then?

HelenaWaiting · 28/02/2026 12:07

Betterbelieveit · 28/02/2026 09:45

Who named Britain "Great"? And was it really great? Going around the world slaughtering people and stealing their land is not great by any standards.

Who named Britain "Great"?
The Romans.

And was it really great?

Yes. "Great" refers to the size of the land mass in comparison to the other British Isles. HTH

Happyjoe · 28/02/2026 12:06

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:55

@EasternStandard , the username was admittedly meant to be memorable.

I'm actually proud to see a woman who is intelligent and articulate leading a major party, proud to see that it's someone fom a STEM background not some cardboard cut-out public school-educated career politician who thinks he'd like to have a go at it because he might be rather good at being PM.

She didn't start of so well, I think she's been learning a lot recently and being a bit smarter. Tbh, I thought she was awful when the tories were in charge.

But I agree, nice to not see a public schoolboy toff in the seat.

pizzaHeart · 28/02/2026 12:03

TheNuthatch · 28/02/2026 10:10

Burnham is very popular in GM, and he is seen as separate to the government. He is already beaten Hannah Spencer in a mayoral election, she came fifth. Burnham was expected to win before he was blocked.
What is best for the country should come before what's best for Starmer., but we now know what his priorities are.

I don’t dispute that he is very popular, I think “expected to win” is not yet a guarantee. And even so there would be a question of mayoral election in the near future.
A lot happened between the moment he was refused and the day of by-election itself. And as we all know - there’s nowt so queer as folk.

BeAmberZebra · 28/02/2026 12:02

MrsBadEnoch · 28/02/2026 11:02

Did you read that in the Daily Mail?

Various sources including Zack/David confirmed this did happen.

BoredZelda · 28/02/2026 12:02

saveforthat · 28/02/2026 11:48

Yes. I already posted that. You haven’t addressed the rest of what I said.

5128gap · 28/02/2026 12:02

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 11:49

Because this is a thread about greens being elected and not specifically about that. Before you know it, the thread has gone off at a tangent and you've got 4,000 posts about that. Go and start another. It's boring it gets hijacked all the time by ppl just wanting to go on about that. Every bloody time. I think we all know plenty about it by now thank you very much..

Then you need to have a word with the OP who raised the issue in the first place. Can she be accused of hijacking her own thread?
This is a forum where most posters are women. It's not unreasonable that we may see the attitudes of various parties towards our rights as an important factor in deciding whether we are pleased or worried about their electoral success.
I referenced the intent of Reform towards the EA. Which I think is very important. Yes, I spoke about the impact on wonen, but given everyone of us has a PC, dispensing with it would impact us all. To me that's a very strong reason for me to be pleased this election showed the limits of their public support, and entirely relevent to the thread.

Mumof2heroes · 28/02/2026 12:01

BrendaThePoodle · 28/02/2026 10:02

I think if you consider the absolute hatred Muslims get just for being Muslim, the verbal, physical and online abuse they receive simply for daring to exist then we should honestly be concerned about young people being radicalised. I think back to the lovely young Muslim boy in my school who was verbally abused/punched/spat on and bullied so horrifically that Im not sure that (unlike him) I’d have become a functional and useful member of society. I think I’d have in some way been very easily manipulated into believing that the people who bullied me deserved retaliation. If we don’t treat people with dignity because of their beliefs or let’s be honest, skin colour, then we are going to suffer the consequences of easily radicalised people seeking revenge.
If we treat people respectfully and not with hatred because they’re not white, then we have less risk of kids being manipulated into radicalisation.
I can’t believe this is a controversial take, if you make life shit for people who simply want to exist, if they’re bullied and shunned from society for being different, then it ends badly.

A young butcher from a halal butcher on tiktok is doing the absolute most to prove how well his family have integrated into society. They are kind, charitable, celebrate Christmas, couldn’t do more to be decent society members. The abuse he gets from plebends that haven’t ever given anything to society but dealt weed to teenagers is shocking.

Maybe Britain needs more love and acceptance and less division to combat the current shit show.
I’ve voted green on and off since I turned 18, loved Caroline Lucas and I love Zach. Let’s be real, most people are politically homeless.

We have been dragged into wars/CoL/NHS failure. Why not try a different approach? I’d rather be taxed highly and have services I can use. I’d rather housing wasn’t a fucking luxury. Food and heat weren’t. Im sorry if your taxes are going to rise, but ultimately, like is said of the working classes also, you’ve had it too good for to long.

100% 🙏🙌👏

Daygloboo · 28/02/2026 12:01

Jlom · 28/02/2026 11:22

All parties want better education, better living standards, better environment, better nhs etc. why wouldn't they? It would be wonderful for everyone and keep them in power for ages. The problem is that those things cost a huge amount of money and someone has to pay for them. Apparently that is the Billionaires. If the Greens got in, the number of Billionaires in the UK would go from very few to none. Even if some billionaires stayed it wouldn't makea dent. Which means the Greens are lying or very bad at maths.

The reality of having the Greens in power is that the country would get poorer and everyone's standard of living would get worse, except for the Billionaires who would have moved to another country.

Good. Billionaires go..I'll buy them a ticket and give them a map. We dont need ppl who dont give a stuff about us. Let's have a nation of small businesses and well run nationalised businesses where profit goes back into the business for investment and infrastructure and not just into shareholders pockets. Look at thexl water comoanies rsil travel, tech stuff.......profit for them, no care for us. .We dont want big private business that just sucks us dry and gives nothing back. Sod off.