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Is it possible that Mandelson might bring Starmer down?

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CurlewKate · 03/02/2026 15:30

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Alexandra2001 · 10/02/2026 17:40

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:16

Well thats an Interesting comment too. Why would you dismiss it so easily by explaining what he was actually doing there? Surely that means you too must be a communist sympathiser seeking to bring down democracy in the UK and replacing it with a kleptocracy sympathetic to Putin in the vein of Belarus?? Its all Very Suspicious...

Sauce for the goose etc. Just following @Hazlenuts2016 example regarding Russian interference.

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You re getting there, develop a story line first, draw up your hero's and villains... defo promise!

Russian interference is happening, be in it elections, Summer and Winter Olympics, funding of political parties... only a complete idiot would dismiss the reach of the Kremlin.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 09:14

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 09:02

@Pineneedlesincarpet well that would have happened by now if it was true. Which it isn't. But over 30 people have witnessed Farage's racist bullying behaviour and he hasnt changed. And Starmer isn’t referenced in the Epstein files. But Farage is many a time and I'm just waiting for an investigation into why.

He's referred to by other people who are talking about him, as I understand it.

I dont think the right need to dredge up people from Starmer's schooldays to get rid of him. He seems to be doing a fairly good job of that himself.

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 09:02

@Pineneedlesincarpet well that would have happened by now if it was true. Which it isn't. But over 30 people have witnessed Farage's racist bullying behaviour and he hasnt changed. And Starmer isn’t referenced in the Epstein files. But Farage is many a time and I'm just waiting for an investigation into why.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:50

BIossomtoes · 10/02/2026 08:43

He clearly was a Communist Sympathiser in his youth

Was he? Is there any verifiable evidence of that?

Although Im sure we would be able to dredge up some right wing school friends of his youth that will allege that he was.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:49

BIossomtoes · 10/02/2026 08:43

He clearly was a Communist Sympathiser in his youth

Was he? Is there any verifiable evidence of that?

Exactly.

PoachedSmoke · 10/02/2026 08:48

We can only hope this manages to drive that spineless flip flop out. But sadly I suspect he'll find a way to stay.

BIossomtoes · 10/02/2026 08:43

He clearly was a Communist Sympathiser in his youth

Was he? Is there any verifiable evidence of that?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:35

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 08:20

@Pineneedlesincarpet I'm sure he has visited loads of countries.

Well you never can tell what he was up to in those days going behind the Iron Curtain. He clearly was a Communist Sympathiser in his youth (despite the Soviet Union being a mass-murdering tyrannical regime) and that will mean he must be a Communist Sympathiser now. I thought those were the rules these days?

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 08:20

@Pineneedlesincarpet I'm sure he has visited loads of countries.

BIossomtoes · 10/02/2026 08:17

On small boats - more arrivals than any other prime minister

You mean the exodus that began after Brexit - known as the Boris wave? Of course the fact that neither of the last two Tory PMs lasted 19 months might also be a factor.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:16

Alexandra2001 · 10/02/2026 08:11

You really do need to stop making things up.... Starmer went to help build a memorial to those murdered by the Nazi's.

You really do have a very fertile imagination..... wasted on a forum, maybe we could crowd fund a Creative writing course for you?

Well thats an Interesting comment too. Why would you dismiss it so easily by explaining what he was actually doing there? Surely that means you too must be a communist sympathiser seeking to bring down democracy in the UK and replacing it with a kleptocracy sympathetic to Putin in the vein of Belarus?? Its all Very Suspicious...

Sauce for the goose etc. Just following @Hazlenuts2016 example regarding Russian interference.

Alexandra2001 · 10/02/2026 08:11

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:03

Well its just Interesting, isn't it. I wonder what he was doing there? Why would he chose communist countries? Surely we can extrapolate that he was making contacts for future use, aimed at undermining the UK and supporting a tyrannical regime?

You really do need to stop making things up.... Starmer went to help build a memorial to those murdered by the Nazi's.

You really do have a very fertile imagination..... wasted on a forum, maybe we could crowd fund a Creative writing course for you?

EasternStandard · 10/02/2026 08:05

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 07:56

@Clavinova I don't know why you keep talking about Corbyn, who has been expelled from the labour party. I thought he was the worst thing to happen to Labour. And I will never listen to the Daily Mail on anything.

Which media do you rely on?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 10/02/2026 08:03

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 07:59

@Clavinovaand what has Starmer's trips to those European countries got to do with the price of fish? Talk about clutching at straws.

Well its just Interesting, isn't it. I wonder what he was doing there? Why would he chose communist countries? Surely we can extrapolate that he was making contacts for future use, aimed at undermining the UK and supporting a tyrannical regime?

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 07:59

@Clavinovaand what has Starmer's trips to those European countries got to do with the price of fish? Talk about clutching at straws.

Hazlenuts2016 · 10/02/2026 07:56

@Clavinova I don't know why you keep talking about Corbyn, who has been expelled from the labour party. I thought he was the worst thing to happen to Labour. And I will never listen to the Daily Mail on anything.

Alexandra2001 · 10/02/2026 06:03

Clavinova · 09/02/2026 21:01

Nope

My first link was published by the current government a few days ago;

Between 1 July 2024 and 31 January 2026, a total of 58,539 returns were recorded (including both enforced and voluntary returns). This is a 31% increase on the 44,626 returns recorded in the nineteen-month period ending June 2024. (1 December 2022 to 30 June 2024)

On small boats - more arrivals than any other prime minister;

More small boat migrants come to Britain under Starmer than any other PM.

A total of 65,922 people have made dangerous journey since Labour came to power in July 2024, data released on Monday shows.

This is an average of over 794 a week, despite Sir Keir coming in to Downing Street with a plan to “smash the gangs” that traffic people across the Channel.

Nope, More almost double, came to the UK under the Tories.

I also believe the highest yearly total was in 2022, significantly higher than in 2024 or 2025, over 45k in '22, 40k in 2025.....

Can't be helped your lot changed PM so often!

But X channel migrant is tiny in comparison to the totals the Tories under Sunak let in, no checks, nothing.... 1.5m in 2023, and 1.2m by June 2024, yet the Cons have the nerve to blame Labour for migrant violence on women.

Under the Labour, net migration has successfully fallen to around 220k, in the last year of Sunak, it was approx 1,000,000.....

NonComm · 10/02/2026 01:09

Following a petition with 114,000 signatures, MPs had a debate yesterday on Russian interference in Britain’s democracy.
Key point
Russian threat clear, present, serious
Chaired by MP Dawn Butler. Reform did not attend.
It’s on YouTube.

RedToothBrush · 09/02/2026 23:51

I think we have reached 'dead man walking' land in terms of Starmer's premiership.

Clavinova · 09/02/2026 23:41

Hazlenuts2016 · 09/02/2026 22:19

@Clavinova can't really bring myself to click on the Daily Fail links, which must surely be credible.

Surprising lack of curiosity in view of your previous posts. Why do you keep posting about possible Russian interference?

The photograph of Seumas Milne with Putin is real enough;

BBC Sounds
Last October Seumas Milne, a Winchester- and Oxford-educated left-winger, was granted unpaid leave from his position at The Guardian to enter the world of political spin as executive director of strategy and communications in Jeremy Corbyn's Labour Party. The appointment wasn't without controversy. Milne has been labelled a Stalinist by David Cameron and caused division at The Guardian for chairing an event with President Putin.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b07q2335

And this is a quote from the Guardian;
Never forget the far left’s soft spot for thieving autocrats. Jeremy Corbyn’s spokesman, Seumas Milne, flew to Sochi to bend his knee to Putin.

Corbyn's long-standing Euroscepticism is well known, plus his comments on NATO and the Salisbury poisoning:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2011/oct/25/mp-voted-for-eu-referendum
https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2017/07/jeremy-corbyn-wholesale-eu-immigration-has-destroyed-conditions-british
https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/brexit/2016/06/13/seven-or-seven-and-a-half-out-of-10-jeremy-corbyns-conspicuous-absence-from-the-referendum-campaign/
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60333340
https://news.sky.com/story/salisbury-attack-jeremy-corbyn-accused-of-appeasement-towards-russia-11289753

Seumas Milne on NATO;
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/sep/03/nato-peace-threat-ukraine-military-conflict

Starmer's trip to Hungary, Romania and Czechoslovakia aged 23 was detailed in his biography.

Hazlenuts2016 · 09/02/2026 22:19

@Clavinova can't really bring myself to click on the Daily Fail links, which must surely be credible.

Clavinova · 09/02/2026 22:00

Hazlenuts2016 · 09/02/2026 20:44

@Clavinova @1dayatatime @Pineneedlesincarpet
The following thread might just blow your minds
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5488033-reform-is-funded-by-putin-wake-up?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

Interesting.

Do you think Jeremy Corbyn could be a Russian stooge as well? Corbyn secretly supported leaving the EU and wanted to leave NATO. Do you remember Corbyn's Russian hat? Hiding in plain sight? Not to mention Seumas Milne, Labour's Executive Director of Strategy and Communications (October 2015 - April 2020);
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298550/Red-handed-Photograph-shows-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-pro-Kremlin-spin-chief-held-Putin-s-iron-grip-propaganda-summit.html

So many red flags - goodness knows why Keir Starmer thought Corbyn and Milne would be suitable occupants of Number 10 - another example of Starmer's poor judgement no doubt. Although I do sometimes wonder whether Starmer could be a spy himself, a double-agent perhaps - recruited by UK security services at Oxford - and by the Russians/communists when he attended that Czechoslovakian 'work camp' during the Cold War as a young man. Starmer's total lack of charisma could be a useful disguise;

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13532089/young-Sir-Keir-Starmer-ended-Communist-spy-files-Cold-War.html

What do you think?
It is very complicated.

Jeremy Corbyn's pro-Kremlin spin chief held in Putin's iron grip

Jeremy Corbyn's aide Seumas Milne was pictured shaking hands with the Russian president Vladimir Putin at last year's Sochi summit, which is designed to boost Putin's ego.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3298550/Red-handed-Photograph-shows-Jeremy-Corbyn-s-pro-Kremlin-spin-chief-held-Putin-s-iron-grip-propaganda-summit.html

000ForFucksSake000 · 09/02/2026 21:39

FFS Starmer is not in the bloody files! Will it bring that orange fuckwit down????

38thparallel · 09/02/2026 21:38

Having said that, with AI improving by the hour there are going to be a lot of photographs which might or might not be true.

38thparallel · 09/02/2026 21:37

But it was widely coveted by mainstream press.

According to the article there is photographic evidence - in which case why hasn’t it been printed?

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