Is it possible that Mandelson might bring Starmer down?

As far as I have heard theres been no references to Farage in his pants, getting JE to procure underage girls or giving state secrets to JE to pass on to whoever wants them. So thats wishful thinking on your part.

JE doesnt seem NF's style really but thats just my own opinion.

What's emerged now raises questions about Starmer's judgement in appointing Mandelson Ambassador to US. M is said to have lied, or at least been economical with the truth when asked whether there was anything in his past that might bite but one might expect there to be records held by the security services.

While those of us prepared to cut politicians who were misled some slack might sympathise a man with a bitten bum I don't think there's much doubt Starmer's credibility with the man on the street has taken a hit.

Analysis on lunchtime radio news was that he's now at a point where losing the Gorton by-election might be fatal.

Which law?

The Chagos Island ‘giveaway’ has been cancelled, just last week, after some harsh words from Trump ( the islands have an US air base on them ).

Starmer tried to head it off and was quick off the blocks to say he should quit the Lords.

So damage limitation was rolling fast. It might save Starmer. It might not.

Depends on how much he knew and when.

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Could it bring down Farage too? Lots of references to him. Possible Russian connections. They never did convincingly rule out Russian involvement in Brexit.

Breaking the law.

Mauritius are planning on sueing us now for millions. Well done David Lammy.

Starmer tried to head it off and was quick off the blocks to say he should quit the Lords.

So damage limitation was rolling fast. It might save Starmer. It might not.

Depends on how much he knew and when.

@StarChamber what will Boris be sent to jail for?

Truss was far, far worse than Starmer. Why do you suppose she only lasted a month and a half in the job?

Hope so. Both are traitors

The Chagos Island ‘giveaway’ has been cancelled, just last week, after some harsh words from Trump ( the islands have an US air base on them ).

Hope so. Both are traitors

I really hope so. With Starmer it's a series of incompetence judgements. He appointed RR as chancellor and she consistently lies from her CV to pretending to win a chess tournament when she was only something like 27th. He appointed Raynor tax dodger. He appointed Mandelson who had to resign once before due to dodgy behaviour so he definitely knew he was dodgy before he appointed him. Add that to taking a whole range of freebies from dresses for his wife, glasses, and suits to Arsenal hospitality and Ariana Grande tickets. Then there is his poor judgement and decision making in general, he also appointed Lammy who is giving away the Chargos Islands and paying billions to rent them back, which I really hope Trump puts a stop to. I read in the paper he is wanting to give asylum seekers new council houses above the people who have been on the wIting list for many years. He is the worst PM I can recall, worse than even Truss.

I really hope so. With Starmer it's a series of incompetence judgements. He appointed RR as chancellor and she consistently lies from her CV to pretending to win a chess tournament when she was only something like 27th. He appointed Raynor tax dodger. He appointed Mandelson who had to resign once before due to dodgy behaviour so he definitely knew he was dodgy before he appointed him. Add that to taking a whole range of freebies from dresses for his wife, glasses, and suits to Arsenal hospitality and Ariana Grande tickets. Then there is his poor judgement and decision making in general, he also appointed Lammy who is giving away the Chargos Islands and paying billions to rent them back, which I really hope Trump puts a stop to. I read in the paper he is wanting to give asylum seekers new council houses above the people who have been on the wIting list for many years. He is the worst PM I can recall, worse than even Truss.

I really hope so. With Starmer it's a series of incompetence judgements. He appointed RR as chancellor and she consistently lies from her CV to pretending to win a chess tournament when she was only something like 27th. He appointed Raynor tax dodger. He appointed Mandelson who had to resign once before due to dodgy behaviour so he definitely knew he was dodgy before he appointed him. Add that to taking a whole range of freebies from dresses for his wife, glasses, and suits to Arsenal hospitality and Ariana Grande tickets. Then there is his poor judgement and decision making in general, he also appointed Lammy who is giving away the Chargos Islands and paying billions to rent them back, which I really hope Trump puts a stop to. I read in the paper he is wanting to give asylum seekers new council houses above the people who have been on the wIting list for many years. He is the worst PM I can recall, worse than even Truss.

Only if it turns out Starmer knew all this detail about Epstein and Mandelson’s relationship.

But it seems unlikely.