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Importance of Gorton and Denton

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Acommonreader · 01/02/2026 10:48

I don’t want to get into the candidates or parties here! Please can someone tell me why huge attention is being given to this by election ?
I know that it’s been Labour for a long time but it seems to be publicised as hugely important to all concerned. Is it just a potential indication of future voting or something else?
I have been looking for information but it’s all about the candidates rather than the wider significance of the results beyond the victor. I’m genuinely just try to understand the wider picture. Thanks

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Additup · 16/02/2026 11:17

BIossomtoes · 16/02/2026 09:42

But it is. As a lifelong Labour voter I’d hold my nose and vote Tory if that was the only way of keeping Reform out. My aversion to Farage et al is visceral.

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Fair enough, to you, who you vote for is a defining part of your personality. For most people, many of who are floating voters, I don't think it's that tribal.

DiySteve · 16/02/2026 10:40

patooties · 16/02/2026 10:34

Except for me it really is.

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Why can you see a move away from Labour? For what reasons, please?

patooties · 16/02/2026 10:34

Additup · 16/02/2026 08:33

This is one of the most bizarre statements I've ever read re: voting. Who you vote for (in any election) isn't a defining part of your personality FGS !!

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Except for me it really is.

HopSpringsEternal · 16/02/2026 10:29

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DiySteve · 16/02/2026 10:09

BIossomtoes · 16/02/2026 09:42

But it is. As a lifelong Labour voter I’d hold my nose and vote Tory if that was the only way of keeping Reform out. My aversion to Farage et al is visceral.

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I can relate.

And if the polling data is a good guide, many feel the same way about Starmer. I don’t ‘do’ hate - but I utterly despise the person.

BIossomtoes · 16/02/2026 09:42

Additup · 16/02/2026 08:33

This is one of the most bizarre statements I've ever read re: voting. Who you vote for (in any election) isn't a defining part of your personality FGS !!

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But it is. As a lifelong Labour voter I’d hold my nose and vote Tory if that was the only way of keeping Reform out. My aversion to Farage et al is visceral.

Additup · 16/02/2026 08:33

patooties · 14/02/2026 11:42

Wild - you were never truly Labour if you can shoot to reform

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This is one of the most bizarre statements I've ever read re: voting. Who you vote for (in any election) isn't a defining part of your personality FGS !!

DiySteve · 15/02/2026 18:45

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 18:14

No one I know who voted Labour and claims to be disappointed is considering supporting Reform. Quite the opposite.

I expect.

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So, a handful of datapoints, then.

Hardly compelling.

EasternStandard · 15/02/2026 18:34

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 18:14

No one I know who voted Labour and claims to be disappointed is considering supporting Reform. Quite the opposite.

I expect.

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The voting has been tracked and more have switched from Labour to Reform than any other so it’s probably not that relevant.

Violetparis · 15/02/2026 18:28

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 18:14

No one I know who voted Labour and claims to be disappointed is considering supporting Reform. Quite the opposite.

I expect.

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Also to add, I have always voted Labour, was a member until Lisa Nandy said GC women shouldn't be in the party. I wouldn't vote Labour if there was an election soon due to them ignoring child abuse apologists, would never vote Reform, disgusted with all of the main parties.

MsJinks · 15/02/2026 18:27

Violetparis · 15/02/2026 18:10

I expect lots of former Labour voters will vote Reform because they feel like Labour has let them down and they don't like the 'woke' agenda from the Lib Dems and the Greens.

Well if I didn’t like Lib Dem or Green agendas for being too left then I would probably remain happiest with labour - if starting from there and likely being left of centre, or even centre considering there’s no right of centre any more just further right and further right.
Labour to Reform is far too much of a jump unless you’ve fallen for the con Reform is for the working man - which can happen (see Brexit!).
But I do doubt major numbers of labour voters would move drastically to the right now (which would need to happen as centre right has gone). Those who did move to the right (or to the populist agenda) did so in 2019 mainly.

Violetparis · 15/02/2026 18:23

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 18:14

No one I know who voted Labour and claims to be disappointed is considering supporting Reform. Quite the opposite.

I expect.

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Well that's your experience and the people you know. You may not like that some Labour voters will now vote Reform but it is happening. Some people chop and change which party they vote for, Labour wouldn't have won the last election otherwise.

SerendipityJane · 15/02/2026 18:14

Violetparis · 15/02/2026 18:10

I expect lots of former Labour voters will vote Reform because they feel like Labour has let them down and they don't like the 'woke' agenda from the Lib Dems and the Greens.

No one I know who voted Labour and claims to be disappointed is considering supporting Reform. Quite the opposite.

I expect.

Violetparis · 15/02/2026 18:10

I expect lots of former Labour voters will vote Reform because they feel like Labour has let them down and they don't like the 'woke' agenda from the Lib Dems and the Greens.

DiySteve · 14/02/2026 15:57

patooties · 14/02/2026 14:12

I can see a move to the greens or the Lib Dem’s at a push - but reform? Lol

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Why can you see a move away from Labour? For what reasons?

Wolmando · 14/02/2026 14:49

Probably because of Andy Burnham and the fuss around that, obviously it's important to the locals there but it was headlines for several days.

EasternStandard · 14/02/2026 14:39

patooties · 14/02/2026 14:12

I can see a move to the greens or the Lib Dem’s at a push - but reform? Lol

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’lol’ as you like but it’s happening. The flow of votes shows it in the council and by elections. It’s not just to Greens and Lib Dems.

patooties · 14/02/2026 14:12

EasternStandard · 14/02/2026 11:54

Loads of people who voted Labour in 2024 will vote for other parties, including the pp.

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I can see a move to the greens or the Lib Dem’s at a push - but reform? Lol

DiySteve · 14/02/2026 12:03

Acommonreader · 01/02/2026 10:48

I don’t want to get into the candidates or parties here! Please can someone tell me why huge attention is being given to this by election ?
I know that it’s been Labour for a long time but it seems to be publicised as hugely important to all concerned. Is it just a potential indication of future voting or something else?
I have been looking for information but it’s all about the candidates rather than the wider significance of the results beyond the victor. I’m genuinely just try to understand the wider picture. Thanks

Because it’s effectively a vote on Starmer’s leadership (note that he has been asked not to campaign in G&D).

Labour’s polling is so bad, that they will doubtless try to spin a Green win over Reform, as a Labour victory.

EasternStandard · 14/02/2026 11:54

patooties · 14/02/2026 11:42

Wild - you were never truly Labour if you can shoot to reform

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Loads of people who voted Labour in 2024 will vote for other parties, including the pp.

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 14/02/2026 11:43

1dayatatime · 14/02/2026 10:13

Does that mean that you feel that not all political parties are slippery and can be trusted?

My experience is that all political parties are slippery and can't be trusted and they have to be because if they ever told the truth then nobody would like what they were saying and they would never get elected to become politicians.

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Isn't that a question for BattyTwatty, who is the one who cited slipperiness as their reason for changing voting intentions?

patooties · 14/02/2026 11:42

Battytwatty · 13/02/2026 22:46

I am in that constituency and will be voting for Reform. Former Labour voter but can’t in all conscience vote for that shower of slippery fuckers.

Wild - you were never truly Labour if you can shoot to reform

soddingspiderseason · 14/02/2026 11:30

Battytwatty · 13/02/2026 22:46

I am in that constituency and will be voting for Reform. Former Labour voter but can’t in all conscience vote for that shower of slippery fuckers.

Read the article in The Mill today about the overt racism of Goodwin’s team. A number were kicked out of the Conservatives for racist social media. Do you support that?

1dayatatime · 14/02/2026 10:13

BalladOfBarryAndFreda · 14/02/2026 09:52

Does that mean that you feel Reform aren't slippery and can be relied upon to deliver on their promises?

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Does that mean that you feel that not all political parties are slippery and can be trusted?

My experience is that all political parties are slippery and can't be trusted and they have to be because if they ever told the truth then nobody would like what they were saying and they would never get elected to become politicians.

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