Trump calling Greenland “Iceland” and the rest

Tbf to the man, agreements can be consummated. Usually relating to completing a transaction. He definitely sees Greenland as a property asset.

Neither of us has a clue. Let's face it. The world is being run by a Big out of control Orange.

Indeed. Which was precisely my point in the first place.

I think Rory Stewart was still saying it was a mistake but a different kind of mistake. He was speculating that it wasn’t just a totally random “Trump doesn’t know the difference between Greenland and Iceland” but rather that Iceland was in his head because of discussions he’s been having around it, and thats why he said it when he meant Greenland.

He was definitely confused as he referred to the stock market going down over Iceland.

Rory Stewart had his moments and I really liked his book, but he is a big buyer into every Trump conspiracy theory.

I do think Trump is starting to show cognitive decline, which is a bit scary, but he is nowhere near as bad as Biden was.

Personally I think the so called checks and balances of having 3 arms of power which has been used as a demonstration of democracy and to avoid absolutism are in fact completely useless when put to the test. Congress, the senate and office of POTUS.
Trump is a useful idiot on behalf of extreme right wing. His cognitive decline is obvious and behaviour clearly narcissistic. The most dangerous human beings are this sort of psychopath who also hold power.

Well...if he decides to go after Canada he will. No different from any other country. Hes clearly lost the plot so theres no predicting what he will see in any country hes got his eye on.

Didn't he also talk about a potential agreement over Greenland being 'consummated', when I think he actually meant confirmed or ratified?!

There isn't a lot congress can do. The President has pretty substncial powers and can even begin military action without any requirement for congress to approve it.

Even in areas where congress has the power, the Trump administration has just ignored it. He is acting like a dictator in that he has ordered actions be taken even if outwith his powers as he knows it will take the Supreme Court months to get around to determining if it was legal or not. And even then they have packed the Supreme Court with right-leaning judges who are far more likely to come down on their side.

So how do you think he sees Canada?

Presumably you are aware that Canada, like Iceland, is a country?

My answer was to your assertion that Trump is after Greenland because it isn't a "real" country. (It is a real country). And it isn't "owned" by Denmark anymore either. It is an autonomous territory with its own government. I wasn't entering a discussion of which country would be better to annex, which is a rather weird tangent to take. Also, there has been already some talk about making Iceland the 52nd state, although the politician who said it later said he was joking.

Im genuinely not insinuating you dont know what Iceland is! But for some reason you seem really keen on letting me know? Im just teasing you. I do assume a basic knowledge on here of what is a country and what isn't. Of course you know Iceland is a country.

But the fact it is an independent country unlike Greenland is a factor in my view. He clearly sees Greenland as a leasehold territory. Run by another country. Quite different from Iceland. (As you of course know).

I know it is a real country - I have been there and I have never disputed that fact. I have no idea why you seem so keen to insinuate otherwise.

I just don't happen to think that the fact of it being an independent country is relevant.

As for whether Trump genuinely has designs on Iceland or not, or whether it would even be a good strategic move for him if he did, who knows? The guy is a lunatic and doesn't think like any normal person would.

Ok thanks for your correction. Its in the EEA, EFTA and Schengen though. So its a real country!!! 😉I hope you see my point now. No matter anyway.

Actually if we are keen on taking over real countries now, Norway would be a better target for a US takeover as it owns Svalbard. More useful to the US than Greenland. Plus it would get those mean Norwegians back for not giving Big Orange the Nobel Peace Prize.

Trump threatened to annex Canada, by military means if necessary. So the fully/semi autonomous state distinction doesn't matter to him. He really doesn't think so deeply. He sees or hears and he wants. Like a toddler.

I just don't agree that Iceland being a country would put him off. After all, he has made numerous statements about thinking that Canada should become part of the US.

Also, for future reference, Iceland is not part of the EU at present.

Well I suspect its the fact that Greenland is "owned" by another country that makes him think its up for grabs and could be owned by someone else. Technically the UK has first dibs on any sale anyway.

Many apologies for suggesting in some way that you didn't know what Iceland was. Apparently.

Well I suspect its the fact that Greenland is "owned" by another country that makes him think its up for grabs and could be owned by someone else. Technically the UK has first dibs on any sale anyway.

Many apologies for suggesting in some way that you didn't know what Iceland was. Apparently.

I'm well aware that Iceland is a country.

What makes you think that would put Trump off?

Iceland is a country in its own right, not an autonomous territory of another country. Its a member of the EU and NATO. It would be like Trump taking a fancy to Portgual or something. Deciding it would be helpful to own for "strategic" reasons.

I'd be concerned if I were from Iceland... might have been a slip of the tongue or it might be next in line.

It has been disappointing to see the failure of checks and balances in the US, but I think those closest to the president are probably quite happy to keep him in power for now - I imagine that they know very well how to manipulate him.

And in any case, if Trump is removed, we get Vance - and that worries me even more than Trump tbh.