Any Americans on here? What is the feeling in America regarding trump?

Well, they would need to be developed. And like it or not, the US has the resources to develop it. The Danes simply don't.

So again, if this were approached by actual adults, there is likely a way to make this a good deal for Greenlanders, Danes, NATO, and Americans. But instead, we are pissing off allies for literally no reason. And it is counterproductive. For all parties. I mean, you could make guarantees that Greenlanders and Danes would be entitled to resource profits etc... But instead, Trump is handling this like an idiot.

I think a lot of us believed that there were checks and balances built in to the US constitution, but we are not really seeing those in action. Trump seems to be doing whatever he likes, and the rest of the US system currently appears either unable or unwilling to stop him.

I have an American friend actively trying to leave by only dating Canadians (lives near the border) and another moving to France in March (she’s a dual National via her mum) she’s 71 and can’t stand it any more, her dc already live in 3 different European countries one left during the first Trump innings and the other 2 in the past year, but not every American has options like this

And if he then goes for Canada, what then? We let him have that as well?

What else would you be willing to hand over?

No argument from me.

But Trump does not have the constitutional authority to engage in this type of behavior.

Remember, the constitution is very clear. Treaties are controlled by the Senate. Not the President. Even the most conservative SC justices would oppose an explicit violation of the constitutional text. Thomas and Alito are textual purists. There is no way they could get past an explicit violation of very clear text.

So assuming our system will work, the SC would rule that treaty violations must be approved by 2/3 of Senators. In my experience, mainstream conservatives would back the Senate.

One of the problems with the Iran deal negotiated by Obama was that he did not take it to the Senate for approval. Had he done that, Trump would have absolutely no authority to violate the treaty. But because it wasn't ratified by the Senate, it wasn't a real treaty.

A fundamental problem is that the branches of government do not exercise their power. Senators and congresspeople love to complain about health care CEOs and billionaires. But, they have the power to change tax law. So if Bezos isn't paying enough, it is the fault of politicians. But too many members of congress are too cowardly to exercise their constitutional authority. It sucks.

Look at all the reform voters here who are basically wanting to follow suite. It’s depressing. We can’t look at the US and ask ‘but why are you voting for him’ when in 3 years time that will be us!

You can read and watch US media online in the UK and see for yourself what they are saying.

Also, the world runs on rare earth minerals. Would we rather these be controlled by Russia and China or the Americans?

where are the facilities to deal with the minerals? , it’s not something that can be built in the short term and will take billions

Trump is doing to well in Venezuela, no takers in the oil world for putting infrastructure into Venezuela for more than 1% of the oil to come out, to risky and unstable for companies to go in

Wow.

Well considering Trump declared military action could be used, then when some nato countries put a couple of boots on the ground from a few nato countries - trump turns to tariffs that hurt his own people just as much of those on the countries he is sanctioning

I am fully convinced that trump, Russia and China all got their colouring crayons and coloured in a map for which areas they want.

The USA aren't handling relative decline very well. But that's what it is. Trump is as much a symptom of that as he is the cause of its current problems.

IMO, Trump is bloviating. The actual chances of US military involvement are slim to none. Americans wouldn't tolerate it. Just look at the Republican senators who have come out an opposed the notion of using the military and tariffs. These aren't repub nobodies. They are Senators will significant political power.

So while some of us understand the policy rationale, we would oppose any use of the military against a NATO ally.

This an example of sensible policy approached in the most absurd way.

US control of Greenland isn't a new idea. American military presence would be a huge problem of Russian and China. Also, the world runs on rare earth minerals. Would we rather these be controlled by Russia and China or the Americans? All we hear these days is how Russia wants to invade Europe. US sovereignty over Greenland would significantly diminish their world power.

Greenland becoming part of the US isn't a crazy idea. It has almost happened before. We've purchased Alaska and Louisiana. This stuff happens all the time.

Trump is a moron his approach to this. We've bought territory before. And I'm confident that if we negotiated in good faith, made certain promises to Greenland, etc, we could make it a good deal for all involved.

But to impose tariffs and invoke the military? Absolute nonsense.

we are too intertwined with the U.S. to make support of the Danes a priority and as a sovereign state is it up to the Danes to defend their territory? Maybe it is time for the Danes to make the deal because what other alternative is there?

uk is part of NATO, an attack on one is an attack on all - of the nation asks for help article 5

I agree Trump is a bit of a dick but he is not hitler. This is about narcissism and mineral rights.

I just feel if Trump is determined to get Greenland should this be a hill we did on in support of Denmark and it's sovreignty of an arctic territory where historically the native people have not been treated well. (I don't remember swarms of European nations coming to our aid during the Falkands war as well.)

we are too intertwined with the U.S. to make support of the Danes a priority and as a sovereign state is it up to the Danes to defend their territory? Maybe it is time for the Danes to make the deal because what other alternative is there?

I'm an American. I hate what is happening. Even if I may support the underlying policy. I've no concerns about deporting people who are not legally authorized to be here. But it makes no sense to deport folks who have been in this country and contribute to society. Criminals, sure. Folks just trying to have a better life, it's terrible.

I'm in a pretty liberal State. Republicans here often describe ourselves as "California Republicans" because we love good tax policy, but also think abortion is essential to women's bodily autonomy. Some of us are religious, but not radically so.

Trump is gone in 2+ years. The American system is strong. Even die-hard republicans would oppose ignoring judicial rulings are congressional legislation.

But we've seen this before. Trump isn't the first president to behave as if the Executive branch has significant power. Nixon was in this camp. W. as well. But even those who support a strong executive understand that the US constitution defines 3 "co-equal" branches of government.

Another factor is State vs. Federal jurisdiction. "Trump is going to cancel the midterms!" Yeah, no. Elections are run by individual states and the feds aren't going to have much luck convincing California to cancel elections.

Mainstream republicans love the Constitution and believe it must be honored. Justice is achieved through fair and free process where every citizen has the same legal protection. If Trump tries to push this too far, he will absolutely lose support from the majority of Republicans. The radicals on the Right do not represent mainstream American conservative thought, IMO.

As an example, a few years ago the feds tried to enforce federal law on pot. This mean sending agents to interfere with shops in my state. When my republican buddies learned of this, we organized and surrounded the pot shops to prevent feds from entering. The 10th amendment is clear. Any power not given to feds explicitly, is controlled by states.

Outside the US, I don't know if there is an appreciation for how much power individual States have. Sure, there is the supremacy clause. But States beat feds all the time by showing that they don't have constitutional authority on what they are trying to enforce.

Really? You think he will stop once he’s got Greenland? It will be Canada next then Cuba… and then where? He’s a nasty bully and I think Denmark and the rest of the world must stand up to him. He’s so unpredictable with everything including tariffs that you can’t trust a word he says.

I listened last year, live, to ‘an old, no talent, leather skinned’ (paraphrasing) American musician discussing Trump for a few minutes.
It was the first time I saw his concert interrupted for his political views, and it was clear how heartbreaking he was finding the state of the USA under Trump. He said he’d sang for decades about the good/bad of America but now was a different and scary time - he repeated ‘this is happening now’ about various issues. He said he believed still there is more of the good of America and its citizens.
This was last June, and I found it quite powerful, nearly 40k silently listening even though that was in the U.K. and not the US.
I don’t generally see this larger scale and clear speaking out though, even from the Democrats, not in a way that cuts through at least. But I wondered if that’s just as I don’t live there. I see a fair few here, politicians, agitators, celebrities lately, both speaking out and the opposite speaking out so I guess that is possibly happening but outside my radar?
The polarities here are startling- and upsetting- but not sure this is as evident overtly in the US as in on the streets (barring certain states due to events) tv, news, social media? but as a PP said, a country divided is a country never going to cause serious issue for the government- an old Syrian friend told me a country of folk worrying enough about their next meal is never going to revolt - same principle, very distressing to see it so applied.
I hope everyone realises I went to see Springsteen - the absolute boss - and he is not talentless, and his skin and the whole of him was much more appealing to watch than the orange blob!

Why if you’ve said you’ll take Greenland by force, would you then use sanctions oa your allies when they put boots on the ground to defend Greenland?

its not down to Denmark to hand over another country, Greenland has a population to consider

usa had bases on Greenland and walked away, they’ve been offered the minerals but haven’t taken up the offer

I really think here it is time for Denmark to step down here and seek Greenland for the sake of the greater geopolitical picture in a world where power counts. If Trump is determined to get Greenland and all the signals point that way then in reality he will get it. We in the UK are poised to suffer some economic harm as tariffs are placed on us and we have to ask for UK citizens is getting involved in this colonial power play over an arctic land mass really in our best jnterests? Surely our best interest lies in ensuring the US remains a steadfast economic and military ally by acquiesing on this issue although it is painful.

In reality we are just setting up ourselves for humiliation as Europeans by potentially watching US troops land in Greenland, bloodlesly taking the taking the Island, and have to face the fact that the US is still the backbone of western security so NATO will stand and we go back to the status quo.

It’s crazy that there isn’t a real “opposition” leader in the us, to try and call him out with some sense of authority. Obama seems v quiet but I guess he is retired. The whole set up is too divisive imho