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Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 10:12

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Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 10:11

HopSpringsEternal · 17/01/2026 09:55

Right of centre, is correct I guess as far is technically right of centre.
Just because lots of people have fallen for the rhetoric, doesn't make it a good thing. Many people fall for populism, hence its name. They pertain to solve complex problems (that have been stoked up by creating fear) with simple solutions that resonate with people. Those people have been fed lots of propaganda making them easy targets.
The people at the head of the populist groups, don't give a monkeys about the issues themselves, but are just using it as a way to gain power.

Ah yes ‘populism’, otherwise known as giving the majority want they want in a democracy. The horror people like you must have of giving the majority what they want…

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 10:09

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TacticalFuckery · 17/01/2026 09:59

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:57

It’s exactly how the government operates and has done so ever since Blair. The separation of powers is broken and heavily skewed towards the judiciary: for further information see the Starmer government and its inability to gain traction…

With all due respect, it’s not.

Happyjoe · 17/01/2026 09:57

@Dollymylove

Lol, did he not spout some sort of nonsense like this with Brexit - how did that go? He said we will have control of our borders, lol, and folk on boats has risen significantly since brexit? Did we actually lose the right to return people because of brexit? Not to mention the financial harm brexit has caused the UK and all the other things that we no longer benefitted from.

Voting Farage just because of people coming on boats, (when vast majority of migration to the UK is controlled through visas) and literally ruining everything else in the UK is the epitome cutting nose off in spite your face.

Utter stupidity.

HopSpringsEternal · 17/01/2026 09:55

Mahanswarcanoe · 16/01/2026 22:50

He’s right of centre - as are apparently most of the country outside of your echo chamber (see the polls).

and about time too given at the end the tories were little more than the Lib Dem’s in drag.

as to the quote: you will find I am correct.

Right of centre, is correct I guess as far is technically right of centre.
Just because lots of people have fallen for the rhetoric, doesn't make it a good thing. Many people fall for populism, hence its name. They pertain to solve complex problems (that have been stoked up by creating fear) with simple solutions that resonate with people. Those people have been fed lots of propaganda making them easy targets.
The people at the head of the populist groups, don't give a monkeys about the issues themselves, but are just using it as a way to gain power.

Happyjoe · 17/01/2026 09:50

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:25

Yes you are right - those poor bands that can’t make it to their gigs without filling their paperwork in… literally peak middle class out of touch mumsnet. Go talk to some low skilled workers who can’t get jobs due to all our ‘imports’ and I will cry you a river.

You're actually quite nasty aren't you?

AnnasFangs · 17/01/2026 09:49

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Ignoring the horrible slur, how exactly is Farage going to stop the boats? What is his plan?

AnnasFangs · 17/01/2026 09:46

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 09:35

The A303 tunnel is a good example as are met police stop and search powers and the Rwanda asylum policy

The government cancelled the A303 and the Rwanda schemes, not the judiciary.

I am not quite sure what you are getting at with the stop and search example, can you explain, please?

Happyjoe · 17/01/2026 09:44

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 17/01/2026 08:32

Please explain ‘basically don’t give a fuck about anyone else’ ?

The Lefts whole mantra has been:

wE hATe ANyone that DoENt think Like us Or Agree with ANythin we’ve saID, if You don’t agree You ARe a Facist, raCIsT, TransPHobE BigOT and any other word that’s fashionable that week….

Again, writing bollocks.
The 'left' have brought you

National minimum wage, NHS, maternity leave, child benefit, decriminalisation of homosexuality, made racism illegal, brought in equal pay.... I could go on...

....but I fear that you're only interested in 'johnny foreigner' issues and spouting same old tired shit whenever someone may actually voice reason and facts to you.

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 09:35

AnnasFangs · 17/01/2026 08:59

Can you give an actual example of what you mean?

The A303 tunnel is a good example as are met police stop and search powers and the Rwanda asylum policy

Dollymylove · 17/01/2026 09:27

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hattie43 · 17/01/2026 09:22

caringcarer · 17/01/2026 09:05

Starmer is the biggest risk to this country. He is gifting the Chargos Islands 1600 miles from Mauritius to Mauritius who has never owned them before. They are worth billions and strategically important because of Diego Garcia air base. Mauritius are in bed with China. That is the security risk. Starmer just took them ck to see it. All of our military chiefs ar against it. Then he's wasting billions renting them back. No other politician is a greater risk to UK. He's also at th same time trying to make deals with EU to give up UK sovereignty.

I don’t think Starmer likes this country . The next big security risk is him signing off on this massive Chinese embassy when so many are saying he shouldn’t .

lljkk · 17/01/2026 09:10

ChanceOfALifeLine · 16/01/2026 22:53

I don’t get it. Yes, I already think he’s vile. But he was tricked in to saying this, he’s not actually praising him? So why would it change anyone’s mind on him?

yeah, doing Cameos is a bit gross, fair enough. Do people expect him to thoroughly vet all clients/associations? I doubt that's covered in a market competitive price for Cameo.

caringcarer · 17/01/2026 09:05

BelleEpoque27 · 16/01/2026 22:51

He's not a conservative. He is completely devoid of morals - he'd do or say anything if it got him money or notability. He's a confirmed racist, in the pocket of Russia, and is a national security risk to this country.

Starmer is the biggest risk to this country. He is gifting the Chargos Islands 1600 miles from Mauritius to Mauritius who has never owned them before. They are worth billions and strategically important because of Diego Garcia air base. Mauritius are in bed with China. That is the security risk. Starmer just took them ck to see it. All of our military chiefs ar against it. Then he's wasting billions renting them back. No other politician is a greater risk to UK. He's also at th same time trying to make deals with EU to give up UK sovereignty.

AnnasFangs · 17/01/2026 08:59

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:57

It’s exactly how the government operates and has done so ever since Blair. The separation of powers is broken and heavily skewed towards the judiciary: for further information see the Starmer government and its inability to gain traction…

Can you give an actual example of what you mean?

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:57

TacticalFuckery · 17/01/2026 08:53

This is the biggest load of tosh I’ve read. It’s simply not how our country operates.
Dictatorships aren’t to be envied. Especially when headed by self interested liars like Farage.

It’s exactly how the government operates and has done so ever since Blair. The separation of powers is broken and heavily skewed towards the judiciary: for further information see the Starmer government and its inability to gain traction…

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:54

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TacticalFuckery · 17/01/2026 08:53

Mahanswarcanoe · 16/01/2026 22:58

The UK is governed by quangos and arm length bodies. The judiciary has too much power and it has broken the traditional separation of powers between the executive, legislature and judiciary that made the system work. All courtesy of the Blair era which assumed we would play follow the leader to the EU forever and so could dispense with all that tedious governing stuff.

if farage can bulldoze through this and get our government actually governing again then yes, I believe him.

This is the biggest load of tosh I’ve read. It’s simply not how our country operates.
Dictatorships aren’t to be envied. Especially when headed by self interested liars like Farage.

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 08:52

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:38

What an interesting assumption… a reform voter must surely be either unemployed or low skilled… I am neither but what a fascinating insight into your bias

Whats good for the goose is good for gander... plus plenty of v well paid jobs involve "sitting on your arse...

You were very happy to call a pp M/C and peak out of touch.....

What a fascinating insight into your hypocrisy....

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:38

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 08:36

Stick to Reform, they are the party for you, sit on your arse, moaning, blaming your ills on migrants, instead of getting out there and competing in the jobs market.

What an interesting assumption… a reform voter must surely be either unemployed or low skilled… I am neither but what a fascinating insight into your bias

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 08:36

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:30

Utter nonsense. The judiciary runs this country and that is not how the unwritten constitution is supposed to function. See building of key infrastructure in the uk seeing obstruction, never mind letting every Tim dick or mohammed in.

Stick to Reform, they are the party for you, sit on your arse, moaning, blaming your ills on migrants, instead of getting out there and competing in the jobs market.

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 08:33

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:25

Yes you are right - those poor bands that can’t make it to their gigs without filling their paperwork in… literally peak middle class out of touch mumsnet. Go talk to some low skilled workers who can’t get jobs due to all our ‘imports’ and I will cry you a river.

Members of my family and myself went to work in Europe, we were def not M/C my brother worked in Germany on a building site, driving back monthly through Europe to spend a weekend with his family....
I initially worked in a bar...
No work in the UK in the mid 90s.

You re showing yourself to be a bit of an inverse snob

CrazyAboutFurBabies · 17/01/2026 08:32

Blump2783 · 17/01/2026 00:47

I don't know why people are proud to be right wing. You're basically saying you don't give a fuck about anyone else. Good work.

Please explain ‘basically don’t give a fuck about anyone else’ ?

The Lefts whole mantra has been:

wE hATe ANyone that DoENt think Like us Or Agree with ANythin we’ve saID, if You don’t agree You ARe a Facist, raCIsT, TransPHobE BigOT and any other word that’s fashionable that week….

Mahanswarcanoe · 17/01/2026 08:30

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 17/01/2026 00:56

Let me guess, the judicial rulings you don't like are the ones that stop migrants from being treated illegally? If the courts can't stop the Govt from breaking the law about treatment of migrants, they can't stop the Govt from breaking all the other laws too.

When the Govt can break the law, the Govt can do what it likes, including hurting you and yours. When the Govt can break the law, the Govt can round people it doesn't like up and put them in prison for no reason.

The judiciary, by ruling against the Govt when it breaks the law, are protecting you and me.

Utter nonsense. The judiciary runs this country and that is not how the unwritten constitution is supposed to function. See building of key infrastructure in the uk seeing obstruction, never mind letting every Tim dick or mohammed in.

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