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Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 22:42

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Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 22:40

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 22:39

That’s politics. Blame the game not the player.

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You’re not making any sense now, at all. Your points are not cohesive.

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 22:39

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 20:54

You will recall how Farage pulled his own MPs out of contesting certain constituencies so that Johnson could win the 2019 election, yes? Farage was happy with his Brexit plans, plus when it went wrong it meant Johnson got all the blame for it and Farage could claim it wasn’t done properly.

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That’s politics. Blame the game not the player.

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 22:38

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Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 22:37

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 19:01

Yes, it is. I was starting to think we’d have nothing to agree on, but it is desperate that Farage did that. It’s good that there are some things so over the line that we can all agree on them.

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I think you misunderstood me - I meant a desperate attempt on your part to find a gotcha on farage that few will care that much about

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 22:35

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 22:34

Reform are sensibly bringing in those with political experience to buttress their capabilities. That’s political maturity, not weakness

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Haha, ok. Sounds like a plan!

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 22:34

AnnasFangs · 18/01/2026 20:51

Farage is no "outsider". That's a daft statement. He has just welcomed yet another Tory into his ranks. Rum behaviour for a politician who claims to be fighting the political establishment.

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Reform are sensibly bringing in those with political experience to buttress their capabilities. That’s political maturity, not weakness

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:59

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 20:54

You will recall how Farage pulled his own MPs out of contesting certain constituencies so that Johnson could win the 2019 election, yes? Farage was happy with his Brexit plans, plus when it went wrong it meant Johnson got all the blame for it and Farage could claim it wasn’t done properly.

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He’s a snake.

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:58

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:44

You will of course recall that farage wasn’t a member of the government that implemented Brexit?

but you ignore my broader point: it will take an outsider to shake up a political establishment that has become very comfortable indeed with inactivity.

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I don’t know if you will recall that Farage was the leading figure, politically, that pushed for Brexit to happen.

Via UKIP, he incessantly drove it making it become a constant political conversation. His anti-EU rhetoric was part of what forced the referendum. He was instrumental in the Leave campaign and its inaccuracies and false promises.

When it came to the actual implementation, he was again incessant about a hard Brexit through his Brexit / Reform party. He counted the referendum going through as a political victory for himself before he immediately fucked off. Never mind though, seems like he might be back again for more of the same. Maybe we need to keep a few buses free for him to put ads on.

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 20:54

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:44

You will of course recall that farage wasn’t a member of the government that implemented Brexit?

but you ignore my broader point: it will take an outsider to shake up a political establishment that has become very comfortable indeed with inactivity.

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You will recall how Farage pulled his own MPs out of contesting certain constituencies so that Johnson could win the 2019 election, yes? Farage was happy with his Brexit plans, plus when it went wrong it meant Johnson got all the blame for it and Farage could claim it wasn’t done properly.

AnnasFangs · 18/01/2026 20:53

yellowspanner · 18/01/2026 20:50

Anyone who doesn't vote Reform is not just devoid of a moral compass but doesn't care about the way this country is being destroyed

So why is Farage joining forces with those he claims "broke Britain?"

AnnasFangs · 18/01/2026 20:51

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:44

You will of course recall that farage wasn’t a member of the government that implemented Brexit?

but you ignore my broader point: it will take an outsider to shake up a political establishment that has become very comfortable indeed with inactivity.

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Farage is no "outsider". That's a daft statement. He has just welcomed yet another Tory into his ranks. Rum behaviour for a politician who claims to be fighting the political establishment.

yellowspanner · 18/01/2026 20:50

Anyone who doesn't vote Reform is not just devoid of a moral compass but doesn't care about the way this country is being destroyed

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:44

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:20

So, you think the man that falsely advertised how great Brexit was going to be and then promptly fucked off is the candidate for the job? Just checking.

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You will of course recall that farage wasn’t a member of the government that implemented Brexit?

but you ignore my broader point: it will take an outsider to shake up a political establishment that has become very comfortable indeed with inactivity.

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:20

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:09

It’s not - that’s why we need an insurgent reform government to hit the reset button. Liblabcon/ the blob are incapable of self reform.

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So, you think the man that falsely advertised how great Brexit was going to be and then promptly fucked off is the candidate for the job? Just checking.

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:09

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:08

And how’s that going?

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It’s not - that’s why we need an insurgent reform government to hit the reset button. Liblabcon/ the blob are incapable of self reform.

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:08

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:06

No. The most important factor is not having supranational government from Brussels. Our political class needs to grow up and start governing again. That means giving quangos, the treasury, the judiciary and arms length bodies a bloody constitutional nose.

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And how’s that going?

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:06

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:04

What has improved since Brexit? You don’t think that the loss of freedom to live, work and travel extensively in the EU is a shame? If not for you then for the younger generation?

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No. The most important factor is not having supranational government from Brussels. Our political class needs to grow up and start governing again. That means giving quangos, the treasury, the judiciary and arms length bodies a bloody constitutional nose.

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 20:04

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:01

Brexit was the right move, just poorly executed by a political class who are happy to take the money, but can’t or won’t govern without a cookie cutter EU policy to follow

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What has improved since Brexit? You don’t think that the loss of freedom to live, work and travel extensively in the EU is a shame? If not for you then for the younger generation?

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 20:01

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 19:41

I totally believe enough deluded, or rich enough to only care about themselves, people will actually vote for him — even after the Brexit debacle that he was a good part responsible for.

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Brexit was the right move, just poorly executed by a political class who are happy to take the money, but can’t or won’t govern without a cookie cutter EU policy to follow

Vastimprovement · 18/01/2026 19:41

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 19:28

So you say - stay complacent kids…

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I totally believe enough deluded, or rich enough to only care about themselves, people will actually vote for him — even after the Brexit debacle that he was a good part responsible for.

AnnasFangs · 18/01/2026 19:39

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 19:28

So you say - stay complacent kids…

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A wee bit patronising of you. Not complacent. Just quietly hopeful.

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 19:28

AnnasFangs · 18/01/2026 19:23

Plenty of Tories wouldn't vote Reform. If Reform has momentum, why is its polling going the wrong way just now?

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So you say - stay complacent kids…

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 19:28

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 19:25

You are way too far gone, clearly. Never mind.

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Tell me more once farage is prime minister.

Teanbiscuits33 · 18/01/2026 19:25

Mahanswarcanoe · 18/01/2026 19:22

Fascinating hysterics…

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You are way too far gone, clearly. Never mind.

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