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Good on Kemi!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/01/2026 15:17

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch, but I'm even less of a fan of Robert Jenrick, and I'm rather delighted to see that she has sacked him and withdrawn the whip before he could jump to Reform.

She has definitely had the last laugh here. He must be spitting bullets!!

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Pineneedlesincarpet · 18/01/2026 07:17

Alexandra2001 · 18/01/2026 06:59

So they don't want to grow their business then? thats what your saying and these are exactly the same arguments put forward by the Tories in the 2000s when the NMW was first introduced too.

Its too early to say what the long term impact is, Tariffs and AI will have impacted employers decisions, taxes raised will also improve growth too, assuming Trump doesn't fuck up the world first...

The 'right always complain about taxes but want higher spending, so we had Badenoch moaning about lack of Defence spend... no clue on she would pay for it.
Please don't say growth, she was in Govt for 5 years, in which time we had tiny growth, zero growth and a recession in the last 12 months of Tory Govt.

She also back Truss "100%" not sure if she has deleted that tweet.... good judge of economic policy and character (Jenrick) - is your Kemi...

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Yes. If you can't afford to grow your business by employing more people which RR has made it more expensive to do, then you can't grow your business. As an employer myself that is the sad situation Labour has put me in.

I think Kemi wants more spending on defence which seems sensible in the current climate. But less on benefits for working age people rather than Labours expansion of the welfare state. Seems logical. Better to defend us against invasion, because I doubt the Russians will be interested in our welfare.

Alexandra2001 · 18/01/2026 07:03

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 20:10

There’s literally nothing to report. The accused men pleaded guilty in November and go to trial in April. And there’s been no suggestion in any media outlet that they’re rent boys.

This what i meant by Tories/right wing will lie..... they've already suggested Starmers son is Trans, now its using Prostitutes....

Zero evidence, just slurs, no boundaries... with a nod and wink.

Alexandra2001 · 18/01/2026 06:59

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 13:09

Its not exploiting people. Its weighing up the cost of the increased ENI and the potential for vexatious claims or for getting the new rules wrong or for employing the wrong person for the job and then getting stung. And this is before an employee may have settled in and made any positive contribution.

So an employer may just think its not worth the cost or potential hassle and just not employ anyone new. Its their choice not to hire. Which, if you are a young person with no track record to prove you are a good potential employee, is not great.

So they don't want to grow their business then? thats what your saying and these are exactly the same arguments put forward by the Tories in the 2000s when the NMW was first introduced too.

Its too early to say what the long term impact is, Tariffs and AI will have impacted employers decisions, taxes raised will also improve growth too, assuming Trump doesn't fuck up the world first...

The 'right always complain about taxes but want higher spending, so we had Badenoch moaning about lack of Defence spend... no clue on she would pay for it.
Please don't say growth, she was in Govt for 5 years, in which time we had tiny growth, zero growth and a recession in the last 12 months of Tory Govt.

She also back Truss "100%" not sure if she has deleted that tweet.... good judge of economic policy and character (Jenrick) - is your Kemi...

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 22:38

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 20:03

What would there be to talk about. Hmm..

The alleged offences carried out by the rent boys relate to three fires including one at Starmer’s house in Kentish Town, and another involving a car previously owned by him but sold. A third fire was at a house also linked to Starmer.

Normally the press would be all over this for months. Interesting it's been kept fairly low key.

Normally the press would be all over this for months. Interesting it's been kept fairly low key

Perhaps you are not familiar with sub judice?

Letskeepcalm · 17/01/2026 22:12

Hollybollyhughes · 17/01/2026 20:47

Thatcher if I recall, sold off utility companies so they apparently created profit, but not for consumers but share holders of water, electric, gas etc. End of manufacturing in this country too. Decimated communities and lives and they haven't recovered. Levelling up, cheers Boris for absolutely f all. If you remember the failure of governments under Labour and never the positives then this might help.

Austerity wasn't we're in this together Cameron was it? More like your communities will struggle to recover but I couldn't care less, May, Truss, Johnson and the Tory in waiting Farage. I encountered him once when he was leader of Ukip, nasty, cruel man. Cheer up eh, things can only get better.

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Hollybollyhughes · 17/01/2026 20:47

Thatcher if I recall, sold off utility companies so they apparently created profit, but not for consumers but share holders of water, electric, gas etc. End of manufacturing in this country too. Decimated communities and lives and they haven't recovered. Levelling up, cheers Boris for absolutely f all. If you remember the failure of governments under Labour and never the positives then this might help.

Austerity wasn't we're in this together Cameron was it? More like your communities will struggle to recover but I couldn't care less, May, Truss, Johnson and the Tory in waiting Farage. I encountered him once when he was leader of Ukip, nasty, cruel man. Cheer up eh, things can only get better.

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 20:19

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 20:15

It can't be right. You don't have a trial if you plead guilty. Unless it's a typo for not guilty, or they've had a very delayed sentencing.

You’re right it’s a typo. They pleaded not guilty.

Two men plead not guilty over fires at homes linked to PM https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypmenlzddo

A composite image of Petro Pochynok and Roman Lavrynovych

Two men plead not guilty over fires at homes linked to PM Starmer

The charges relate to a vehicle fire and blazes at properties linked to Sir Keir Starmer.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypmenlzddo

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 20:15

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 20:14

Yes Im sure you're right.

It can't be right. You don't have a trial if you plead guilty. Unless it's a typo for not guilty, or they've had a very delayed sentencing.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 20:14

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 20:10

There’s literally nothing to report. The accused men pleaded guilty in November and go to trial in April. And there’s been no suggestion in any media outlet that they’re rent boys.

Yes Im sure you're right.

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 20:10

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 20:03

What would there be to talk about. Hmm..

The alleged offences carried out by the rent boys relate to three fires including one at Starmer’s house in Kentish Town, and another involving a car previously owned by him but sold. A third fire was at a house also linked to Starmer.

Normally the press would be all over this for months. Interesting it's been kept fairly low key.

There’s literally nothing to report. The accused men pleaded guilty in November and go to trial in April. And there’s been no suggestion in any media outlet that they’re rent boys.

Dragonflytamer · 17/01/2026 20:04

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 19:16

Maybe you think the Telegraph, Mail, Sun, Express, plus their online editions are only slightly to the left of the Socialist Worker...?

No but the Guardian/Independent are very critical of Starmer too. When the Observer is questioning how long he will be there you kind of know the writings on the wall.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 20:03

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 19:38

The reason it’s “gone quiet” is probably because their trial isn’t until April. What would there be to talk about?

What would there be to talk about. Hmm..

The alleged offences carried out by the rent boys relate to three fires including one at Starmer’s house in Kentish Town, and another involving a car previously owned by him but sold. A third fire was at a house also linked to Starmer.

Normally the press would be all over this for months. Interesting it's been kept fairly low key.

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 19:38

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 19:27

Well your last line sort of indicates that the things you have claimed are "lies" by the media may actually have some truth to them.

Luckily its all on record anyway. Apart from the Ukranian boys who set fire to Keir Starmer's car which has gone a bit quiet for some reason.

The reason it’s “gone quiet” is probably because their trial isn’t until April. What would there be to talk about?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 19:27

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 18:23

So what? You re still wrong.

Like i said, for every Labour cock up, they'll be a bigger Tory one....

But the right wing media have done a sterling job on Starmer and Reeves, that much is obvious, they'll lie, twist and distort anything at all and public have lapped it up.
Though its also true that Starmer/Reeves have not made it hard for them...

Well your last line sort of indicates that the things you have claimed are "lies" by the media may actually have some truth to them.

Luckily its all on record anyway. Apart from the Ukranian boys who set fire to Keir Starmer's car which has gone a bit quiet for some reason.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 19:24

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 18:12

And not been able to back up your claims of widespread power cuts under Labour.

Perhaps the Home Counties' electricity supply was running on a rickety wee generator?

I already said that I experienced many and regular power cuts under labour in the home counties. Got no proof obvs. So no need to believe or not believe.

Ive also already said that the 3 day week was due to strikes organised by Labour supporting unions.

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 19:16

Dragonflytamer · 17/01/2026 18:53

I suppose if you view the "right wing media" as anything to the right of the Socialist Worker that is true.

Maybe you think the Telegraph, Mail, Sun, Express, plus their online editions are only slightly to the left of the Socialist Worker...?

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 19:01

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 18:23

So what? You re still wrong.

Like i said, for every Labour cock up, they'll be a bigger Tory one....

But the right wing media have done a sterling job on Starmer and Reeves, that much is obvious, they'll lie, twist and distort anything at all and public have lapped it up.
Though its also true that Starmer/Reeves have not made it hard for them...

I don't need the press to tell me how shit Labour is. I can see it with my own eyes, and from reports from some of my clients (national retailers) re redundancies as a direct result of Labour's policies.

NoWordForFluffy · 17/01/2026 18:59

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:31

It is great. We need strong unions.

Perhaps if Thatcher hadn't taken away so much of their powers, wages wouldn't have plummeted. We wouldn't have the situation where the state is subsidising low paying employers.

Yeah, women really need unions like Unison who are unbelievably anti-woman. 🙄

https://x.com/womensrightsnet/status/2010324166805770743?s=46

Good on Kemi!
Good on Kemi!
Good on Kemi!
Dragonflytamer · 17/01/2026 18:53

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 18:23

So what? You re still wrong.

Like i said, for every Labour cock up, they'll be a bigger Tory one....

But the right wing media have done a sterling job on Starmer and Reeves, that much is obvious, they'll lie, twist and distort anything at all and public have lapped it up.
Though its also true that Starmer/Reeves have not made it hard for them...

I suppose if you view the "right wing media" as anything to the right of the Socialist Worker that is true.

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 18:23

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 18:05

Ive commented on this already subsequently.

So what? You re still wrong.

Like i said, for every Labour cock up, they'll be a bigger Tory one....

But the right wing media have done a sterling job on Starmer and Reeves, that much is obvious, they'll lie, twist and distort anything at all and public have lapped it up.
Though its also true that Starmer/Reeves have not made it hard for them...

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 18:12

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 18:05

Ive commented on this already subsequently.

And not been able to back up your claims of widespread power cuts under Labour.

Perhaps the Home Counties' electricity supply was running on a rickety wee generator?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 18:05

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 17:58

Nope, obviously local ones, tree across the line sort of thing... but the power cuts caused by power stations unable to meet demand, were under Heath...

Main miners strikes were 1972 and 74 and again in 1984 and 85... there were power cuts then (under the Tories) maybe you re getting your dates mixed up?

You can Google it, if you don't believe me.

Ive commented on this already subsequently.

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 17:58

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:28

Hang on....someone has just said there were no power cuts in the Labour years and I'm the one making thing up?

You lefties don't help yourselves.

Nope, obviously local ones, tree across the line sort of thing... but the power cuts caused by power stations unable to meet demand, were under Heath...

Main miners strikes were 1972 and 74 and again in 1984 and 85... there were power cuts then (under the Tories) maybe you re getting your dates mixed up?

You can Google it, if you don't believe me.

Dragonflytamer · 17/01/2026 17:01

He is the second best that Labour has...he'd Deputy Prime Minister. The Labour talent pool is about as shallow as it can get. Maybe Raynor will step up to the plate.

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 16:44

Dragonflytamer · 17/01/2026 15:19

I think that gives him too much credit! He too wishy washy to have any real opinions to be lying about. He needs to go. They should let Lammy have a go.

I think Starmer is very skilled at letting others take the flak by appearing to have no opinion.

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