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Good on Kemi!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/01/2026 15:17

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch, but I'm even less of a fan of Robert Jenrick, and I'm rather delighted to see that she has sacked him and withdrawn the whip before he could jump to Reform.

She has definitely had the last laugh here. He must be spitting bullets!!

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Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 11:12

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:56

Due to the miners strikes. Thatcher had to sort that out for the country. Shame the current Labour government are strengthening union powers again.

Thank goodness for the unions.

Those of us who grew up in working class communities in northern mining towns during the 1980s, we have a very different experience and perspective on what happened around us and what Thatcher did. I won’t bother you with the particulars and the list of Thatcher’s legacies in so many of those towns, as I know that you will not hear it, recognise it or understand it. Oh to have that level of blind arrogance.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:08

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 11:04

Thatcher had nothing to do with the sorting out the three day week.

She sorted out the miners unions though. Sorry. I was unclear.

As I said, shame Labour is going back to the bad old days of excessive union power. That will be bad for all of us.

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 11:04

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:56

Due to the miners strikes. Thatcher had to sort that out for the country. Shame the current Labour government are strengthening union powers again.

Thatcher had nothing to do with the sorting out the three day week.

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 11:03

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 10:42

The Winter of discontent under James Callaghan's Labour party involved widespread strikes, especially by public sector workers - which brought services to a standstill with rubbish piling up and limited heating/electricity for homes and businesses.

There were significant power cuts and blackouts. Under Labour.

James Callaghan was trying - and failing - to control inflation - RPI was 16.5% year-on-year. It led to Thatcher getting in.

The Winter of Discontent was bloody awful, but there were no organised power cuts along the lines of the three day week put in place during the Heath government. At worst, there were some localised electricity shortages caused in part by the unusually severe winter weather.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 10:59

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 10:58

Why does anyone think this is an OK thing to say?

Labour are truly the Nasty Party.

Yep

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 10:58

Snakebite61 · 17/01/2026 10:43

Like reform, all tories are scumbags.

Why does anyone think this is an OK thing to say?

Labour are truly the Nasty Party.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:56

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 10:54

And the three day week was Conservative.

Due to the miners strikes. Thatcher had to sort that out for the country. Shame the current Labour government are strengthening union powers again.

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 10:54

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 10:47

Yep winter of discontent was Labour. Huge amount of days lost to strikes.

And the three day week was Conservative.

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 10:53

Dragonscaledaisy · 15/01/2026 19:38

I recall the Louise Haigh and Angela Rayner debacles dragging on endlessly so we have very different memories. Both perfect examples of Starmer's weak, ineffective leadership.

You have incredibly selective recollection, then.

Remember how long it took to get Owen Paterson out once the Randox scandal came to light, and how Johnson threw the whole government and a three line whip around attempts to keep him in? How Johnson backed Dominic Cummings when he broke lockdown rules and only booted him when he fell out with him? How Rob Roberts was only suspended for 12 weeks after being found guilty of sexual misconduct to staff members? How he appointed Simon Case to investigate lockdown parties when Case had hosted at least one himself? How he reappointed Pincher to the whips' office after he had previously been made to resign for sexual harassment of a party volunteer, and was found to have actively lied about knowing about this?

And how could you forget that it took the resignation of unprecedentedly high numbers of ministers and senior Party figures before Johnson's own hands could be prised loose from the Premiership?

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 10:47

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 10:42

The Winter of discontent under James Callaghan's Labour party involved widespread strikes, especially by public sector workers - which brought services to a standstill with rubbish piling up and limited heating/electricity for homes and businesses.

There were significant power cuts and blackouts. Under Labour.

James Callaghan was trying - and failing - to control inflation - RPI was 16.5% year-on-year. It led to Thatcher getting in.

Yep winter of discontent was Labour. Huge amount of days lost to strikes.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:46

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:45

I am interested because I grew up in Wales ( South, semi-rural) and although we had power cuts during storms etc, there weren't "regular" power cuts in the 70s apart from the three day week etc. I can only assume the infrastructure where you were was much poorer, or you were very rural or both.

Neither.

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:45

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:33

Not really. I dont want to give too much information away online. Suffice to say it was the Home counties.

Again. Why do you want to know? Were some home counties more prone to power cuts in the 1970s than others?

I am interested because I grew up in Wales ( South, semi-rural) and although we had power cuts during storms etc, there weren't "regular" power cuts in the 70s apart from the three day week etc. I can only assume the infrastructure where you were was much poorer, or you were very rural or both.

Snakebite61 · 17/01/2026 10:43

MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/01/2026 15:17

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch, but I'm even less of a fan of Robert Jenrick, and I'm rather delighted to see that she has sacked him and withdrawn the whip before he could jump to Reform.

She has definitely had the last laugh here. He must be spitting bullets!!

Like reform, all tories are scumbags.

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 10:42

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 10:14

There were no power cuts in the Labour years. Please stop gaslighting.

The Winter of discontent under James Callaghan's Labour party involved widespread strikes, especially by public sector workers - which brought services to a standstill with rubbish piling up and limited heating/electricity for homes and businesses.

There were significant power cuts and blackouts. Under Labour.

James Callaghan was trying - and failing - to control inflation - RPI was 16.5% year-on-year. It led to Thatcher getting in.

Good on Kemi!
EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 10:34

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:31

Interesting that you don't want to say.

Surely people don’t need to be specific online just because someone wants to know.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:33

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:31

Interesting that you don't want to say.

Not really. I dont want to give too much information away online. Suffice to say it was the Home counties.

Again. Why do you want to know? Were some home counties more prone to power cuts in the 1970s than others?

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 10:32

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 10:20

Tories like nothing better than lying and making things up...

And while it’s satisfying to see Badenoch get one over on Jenrick and Farage, it’s also worth noting that she didn’t sack him for his racist tropes, or his lies, or his corruption - they tolerated all of that. It’s less about strong leadership and more about damage limitation.

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 10:32

Freud2 · 16/01/2026 19:29

What's your evidence that they're only out for themselves- seems more like a feeling than facts.
And Nigel Farage was the campaigner for Brexit, he was not in government so couldn't implement it. In spite of the government at the time not making the most of the Brexit freedoms it allowed us to be the first country to roll out the covid vaccine. Also lower tariffs in the trade agreement with America. The EU is a failing institution - most other countries in the EU are doing badly.

You only have to look at the sheer hypocrisy of the way Farage lives. MP for Clacton but hardly ever goes there, complains he can't ask PM questions but never tables them, claimed maximum allowances from the EU Parliament as an MEP but rarely attended, gets most of his earnings outside Parliament, claims to be a proud patriot but has children with dual citizenship, claims to be anti EU but his family claim all the benefits of EU membership, including freedom of movement, wants to sell off the NHS because he has no problem paying for healthcare, etc etc etc.

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:31

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:30

Why? Were some areas round London more prone to power cuts than other areas of the UK in the 70s?

Interesting that you don't want to say.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:30

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:28

Whereabouts were you living?

Why? Were some areas round London more prone to power cuts than other areas of the UK in the 70s?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:28

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 10:20

Tories like nothing better than lying and making things up...

Hang on....someone has just said there were no power cuts in the Labour years and I'm the one making thing up?

You lefties don't help yourselves.

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 10:28

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:26

Hilarious! I did live through the 70s. There may not have been power cuts where you were. There were plenty of frequent regular power cuts where I was.

Please stop gaslighting.

Whereabouts were you living?

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 10:26

Freud2 · 16/01/2026 18:00

Definitely good news for Reform as they'll have people with more experience- which they're honest about needing. I think Nigel Farage is an honest and brave politician and will be a great prime minister. He's able to connect with all groups in society.

They'll have people with a track record of betrayal and making 180 degree U turns in terms of their professed belief.

Do you really want to be in a country where you have to pay for health care?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 10:26

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 10:14

There were no power cuts in the Labour years. Please stop gaslighting.

Hilarious! I did live through the 70s. There may not have been power cuts where you were. There were plenty of frequent regular power cuts where I was.

Please stop gaslighting.

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 10:23

Alexandra2001 · 17/01/2026 10:20

Tories like nothing better than lying and making things up...

I don’t think that’s fair. There are quite a few Tory voters on MN who can debate coherently without resorting to untruths and who back their assertions up with evidence.