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Good on Kemi!

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MrsBennetsPoorNervesAreBack · 15/01/2026 15:17

I'm no fan of Kemi Badenoch, but I'm even less of a fan of Robert Jenrick, and I'm rather delighted to see that she has sacked him and withdrawn the whip before he could jump to Reform.

She has definitely had the last laugh here. He must be spitting bullets!!

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PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 12:22

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 12:18

Why a change of direction? Weren't we just discussing low paying jobs?

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We were talking about unions, the long term effects of Thatcher's actions on their powers and the impact on wages and welfare. You then switched to immigration, Brexit and Reeves.

I will leave you to your fun.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 12:20

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 12:19

You want me to elaborate so that you can report me? 🤣

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Funny. I just notice you do as @Sherbs12did when you don’t like views. A typical Labour thing. Why is that?

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 12:19

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 12:16

Agree what? You can’t read other views without concluding that, why?

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You want me to elaborate so that you can report me? 🤣

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 12:18

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 12:12

Nice swerve and change of direction. I agree with @Sherbs12 , but I expect that post will be reported.

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Why a change of direction? Weren't we just discussing low paying jobs?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 12:16

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 12:06

Game’s up - this has to be parody account, surely? ‘A Bridget P type’… Such niche trolling.

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You literally just said...."you’d also find me as ‘chippy’ as Bridget Phillipson:

Are you backing down on that statement?

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 12:16

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 12:12

Nice swerve and change of direction. I agree with @Sherbs12 , but I expect that post will be reported.

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Agree what? You can’t read other views without concluding that, why?

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 12:12

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:58

Immigration isn't going to help that. Everyone knew that a long time ago. Hence Brexit.

Anyway Rachel Reeves has scuppered recruitment in even those low paying jobs.

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Nice swerve and change of direction. I agree with @Sherbs12 , but I expect that post will be reported.

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 12:06

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:48

Well obviously you are left wing and of a Bridget P type so I don't know why you would bother announcing that you won't vote for Reform, Reform being on the right?

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Game’s up - this has to be parody account, surely? ‘A Bridget P type’… Such niche trolling.

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 11:59

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:58

Immigration isn't going to help that. Everyone knew that a long time ago. Hence Brexit.

Anyway Rachel Reeves has scuppered recruitment in even those low paying jobs.

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Yes low paying and graduate included.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:58

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:56

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Immigration isn't going to help that. Everyone knew that a long time ago. Hence Brexit.

Anyway Rachel Reeves has scuppered recruitment in even those low paying jobs.

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:57

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:50

Thats called the public sector?

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Industries also show significant variation in low pay levels. While they all experienced a rise in low-paid jobs, the hospitality industry remains the worst affected, with nearly half of its workers earning below the real Living Wage. The wholesale and retail sector has the highest number of low paid jobs due to its large size, with over a million low paid jobs in 2024.

www.livingwage.org.uk/news/current-state-low-pay-uk

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:56

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Sadcafe · 17/01/2026 11:55

Really didn’t think Kemi Bandenoch was the right choice as leader of the party, but the more time goes on, the better she seems. Having said that, I really cant see the conservatives making any significant comeback at the next election, nor labour having anything like the success they had. Will reform walk away with things, again I honestly don’t see it, they’ve hardly made a massive difference in the local councils they took control of. A hung Parliament seems a real possibility and if so, it’s the libdems who will probably be the deciding factor

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:50

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:31

It is great. We need strong unions.

Perhaps if Thatcher hadn't taken away so much of their powers, wages wouldn't have plummeted. We wouldn't have the situation where the state is subsidising low paying employers.

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Thats called the public sector?

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 11:50

Freud2 · 17/01/2026 11:41

Yes they really are.

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And yet Reform are racist dog-whistling on a regular basis and they have just welcomed with open arms a Tory who ordered that murals at an asylum children’s unit should be painted over in case they felt too welcomed - too weak to stand up to Musk on safeguarding women and children though. Behave with the pearl clutching, go and spend some time looking at the cesspit that is a loud section of Reform supporters on social media.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:49

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:28

Yep, that is correct, however much pp wants to rewrite history.

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Er...how? I havent denied there was a 3 day week. Ive just highlighted that was the fault of the Labour backed unions?

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:48

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 11:30

I haven’t got the time or stomach for this debate today, but safe to say I think you’d also find me as ‘chippy’ as Bridget Phillipson…

My advice to anyone, especially if the prospect of a Reform government seems possible, would be: join a union!

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Well obviously you are left wing and of a Bridget P type so I don't know why you would bother announcing that you won't vote for Reform, Reform being on the right?

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 11:46

Freud2 · 17/01/2026 11:41

Yes they really are.

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More are realising this.

Freud2 · 17/01/2026 11:41

strawberrybubblegum · 17/01/2026 10:58

Why does anyone think this is an OK thing to say?

Labour are truly the Nasty Party.

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Yes they really are.

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:31

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:26

Because of the miners unions supported by Labour.

Which Thatcher eventually had to sort out once she came to power by reducing the power of the unions.

And which Labour are currently are increasing again. Great.

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It is great. We need strong unions.

Perhaps if Thatcher hadn't taken away so much of their powers, wages wouldn't have plummeted. We wouldn't have the situation where the state is subsidising low paying employers.

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 11:30

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:16

Had to be done sadly. For the sake of the country. And the leaders of the unions acted against their members interests.

And yes I do hear it and recognise it, for reasons I won't share on here.

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I haven’t got the time or stomach for this debate today, but safe to say I think you’d also find me as ‘chippy’ as Bridget Phillipson…

My advice to anyone, especially if the prospect of a Reform government seems possible, would be: join a union!

PandoraSocks · 17/01/2026 11:28

Fulmine · 17/01/2026 11:03

The Winter of Discontent was bloody awful, but there were no organised power cuts along the lines of the three day week put in place during the Heath government. At worst, there were some localised electricity shortages caused in part by the unusually severe winter weather.

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Yep, that is correct, however much pp wants to rewrite history.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:26

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 11:19

But no three day week and planned national power blackouts.

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Because of the miners unions supported by Labour.

Which Thatcher eventually had to sort out once she came to power by reducing the power of the unions.

And which Labour are currently are increasing again. Great.

BIossomtoes · 17/01/2026 11:19

EasternStandard · 17/01/2026 10:47

Yep winter of discontent was Labour. Huge amount of days lost to strikes.

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But no three day week and planned national power blackouts.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 17/01/2026 11:16

Sherbs12 · 17/01/2026 11:12

Thank goodness for the unions.

Those of us who grew up in working class communities in northern mining towns during the 1980s, we have a very different experience and perspective on what happened around us and what Thatcher did. I won’t bother you with the particulars and the list of Thatcher’s legacies in so many of those towns, as I know that you will not hear it, recognise it or understand it. Oh to have that level of blind arrogance.

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Had to be done sadly. For the sake of the country. And the leaders of the unions acted against their members interests.

And yes I do hear it and recognise it, for reasons I won't share on here.

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