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Iran and the western left?

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rickyrickygrimes · 14/01/2026 14:15

Can someone explain the background to this? I keep reading snippets online but I can’t get my head around comments like this:

‘It is striking how few of those who most loudly called for a ‘Free Palestine’ are now calling for a ‘Free Iran’

is it as simple as Gaza = Islam, therefore Islam = good? But Iran also = Islam, but clearly in this case Islam = bad?

genuine question.

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TeenagersAngst · 15/01/2026 06:51

Bromptotoo · 14/01/2026 17:19

@rickyrickygrimes

I mean exactly that; the two are not really comparable.

If the Iranians were suppressing particular ethnic groups within their country, starving them and bombing them back to the Stone Age then the situation would be comparable.

So far as I can see the situation in Iran is more one of a popular uprising similar to the one that unseated the Shah in 1979.

Meanwhile Iran is hanging people from cranes in the public square and beat women to death for not covering their hair properly.

Hmm, I can see exactly why Jeremy Corbyn feels no need to censure them.

strawberrybubblegum · 15/01/2026 06:25

You might find this article on the hypocrisy interesting

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/cfd8b674df67b834

The omnicause deems America, Israel and the capitalist world as the epitome of Westernness, the fount of all evil, guilty of every “ism” and “cide”, and thus promotes and supports third worldist regimes and causes that undermine our societies. It is nihilistic and shape-changing, embracing any doctrine that advances its ends, regardless of contradictions.

This is why so few Western activists support Iran’s freedom-fighters. These dissidents are pro-freedom, pro-America and pro-democracy. They curse Hamas and Hezbollah,and demand the end to Tehran’s handouts to its proxies, anathema to our useful idiots.

Bromptotoo · 14/01/2026 17:19

@rickyrickygrimes

I mean exactly that; the two are not really comparable.

If the Iranians were suppressing particular ethnic groups within their country, starving them and bombing them back to the Stone Age then the situation would be comparable.

So far as I can see the situation in Iran is more one of a popular uprising similar to the one that unseated the Shah in 1979.

rickyrickygrimes · 14/01/2026 17:03

Bromptotoo · 14/01/2026 16:40

@rickyrickygrimes

You're comparing Bananas with Elephants as if they were the same thing.

Please explain, I am genuinely trying to understand the comments I've read - such as the one above. like the specific criticism directed at someone like Jeremy Corbyn or Greta Thunberg for not protesting / not shouting loud enough for the Iranian protestors.

You mean that the Gaza / Palestine 'issue' and the Iran protests 'issue' are not related or similar at all? So people can protest one and be silent on the other, and that's okay? (I'm not disagreeing btw - just trying to understand where the criticism of people who do this comes from).

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Bromptotoo · 14/01/2026 16:40

@rickyrickygrimes

You're comparing Bananas with Elephants as if they were the same thing.

strawberrybubblegum · 14/01/2026 15:24

That's certainly how it seems to me.

rickyrickygrimes · 14/01/2026 15:17

So:

My / me = western, Palestinian supporting, socialist worker buying, left leaning person

My enemy = Israel? US? Capitalist ideology?

Enemy of my enemy = my friend = Islam / islamists / Islamic government? Socialist ideology?

is that the thinking?

Hamas and Hezbollah are kind of ‘good’ if they are supporting the Palestinians in Gaza, so that excuses their propping up / enabling / supporting a brutal regime in Iran?

can’t these people hold more than one thought in their head at any one time?

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strawberrybubblegum · 14/01/2026 15:04

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

Unfortunately, despite being Westerners themselves, they see the West as the enemy. And their feelings for Hamas and Iran's regime follow from that. (Pretty sure those feelings are one way, but they'll never need to put that to the test, safe in their western democracies...)

The interesting question is how and when such self-abnegation became so entrenched. And by whom, and to what end.

rickyrickygrimes · 14/01/2026 14:37

Or is it because the western left is anti-capitalism and therefore aligns itself with any other anti-capitalist forces in the world - like the Islamic republic in Iran? Who they see as preventing capitalists taking over in Iran? They can’t be that blinkered, can they? 🤷‍♀️

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