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Conservatives closing the gap on reform

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Pinkponyclub3 · 21/12/2025 01:23

Any conservative supporters here ?
Recent reports say the gap on reform is closing
Having watched some clips of kemi in action,I was quite impressed
But I don't know much about the party having never voted conservative,
Have they more of an insight in to current feeling than labour?

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ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:38

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:36

You’ve just said they’d just get a new leader. If someone can’t be found to stabilise the markets they won’t last.

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You said the markets would go into ‘meltdown’ at a new government.

They have never gone into ‘meltdown’ at a new government. They have reacted as they react to everything. But they don’t ‘meltdown’

ThisQuirkyHare · 22/12/2025 11:38

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:30

Theres no guarantee a civilisation continues. Especially if its people change. History shows us that.

Why do you think civil war cant happen?

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Because there isn't enough funding, military support, political will or religious zeal.

If you studied your military history, you'd see that civil wars involved significant access to resources and localised centres of power to enable the mobilisation of military power to fight an opponent. The UK has a centralised military chain of command which is answerable to the crown and government. Any uprising would be quelled very swiftly due to the lack of credible opposition (inadequate military training, funding and an opposition seat of power).

Think you need to revisit your history books.

At best it would be a few scuffles in the streets by some disorganised thugs which would lead to arrests and prison terms.

But hey, you do you 😆

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:36

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:35

I said meltdown, not react.

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You’ve just said they’d just get a new leader. If someone can’t be found to stabilise the markets they won’t last.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:35

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:33

This is bizarre. You know that the markets already react to anything to the left of Reeves. They don’t care about new governments just the return and conditions.

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I said meltdown, not react.

ItsFridayIminLoveJS · 22/12/2025 11:35

Friendlygingercat · 21/12/2025 02:36

Ive been a conservative voter all my life although always very much to the right of the party. I would rather cut my throat with a rusty saw than vote Labour. I voted Reform in the last GE. I dont agree with all their policies but I do support their stance on immigration, I dont personally like Farage but I recognise his appeal. He has great charisma and is a brilliant communicator. I have also been quite impressed with Kemi recently. She has done some good speeches in parliament. If the Tories can get it together in the next few years I will be back voring for them in the next GE.

Ditto.

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:34

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:33

This is bizarre. You know that the markets already react to anything to the left of Reeves. They don’t care about new governments just the return and conditions.

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What about the "moron premium"?

Glitchymn1 · 22/12/2025 11:33

Always voted Labour. But they’ve pissed me off. Will never vote reform. Watching with interest!

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:33

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:30

I’ve never seen the markets go into meltdown over a new government. Ever.

Im 62.

This is bizarre. You know that the markets already react to anything to the left of Reeves. They don’t care about new governments just the return and conditions.

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:33

ThisQuirkyHare · 22/12/2025 11:23

😂🤣😂🤣

Employers couldn't even get their employees to go back to the office after lockdown without a fight and you think people would go out to fight in a civil war!!

Idiots throwing rocks in the streets and terrorising migrants isn't a civil war. They're just idiots.

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I disagree. There are plenty of people who are very angry. You live in a bubble if you don't see it. Once AI decimate jobs and Labour crash the economy. And we are then a weak and vulnerable country. We are only 3 meals away from civil war remember. Why would you assume it could never happen?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:32

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:30

Theres no guarantee a civilisation continues. Especially if its people change. History shows us that.

Why do you think civil war cant happen?

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Because most people really can’t be bothered.

It’s just the racist thugs stirring things up. So the civil war would be started by them.

I never said it couldn’t happen. But Britain has never had a revolution. And isn’t known for it’s rebellious nature.

Why are you agitating for a civil war?

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:32

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:28

Same way the got over the last one. Appoint a new leader.

The markets can’t go into meltdown over a new government. They have to take it on the chin as they’re stuck with them.

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A new leader within a left coalition? They’ll all be markets what markets.

As for your last line of course they can. Why not? It’s just the cost of borrowing and the pound that will cause a major issue that needs to be resolved.

And if they can’t get someone to do that it’ll continue to put practical pressure on until someone can.

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:30

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:12

Yeah civil war😂

So Reform voters get a mard on as the majority of the country don’t support them.

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Theres no guarantee a civilisation continues. Especially if its people change. History shows us that.

Why do you think civil war cant happen?

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:30

I’ve never seen the markets go into meltdown over a new government. Ever.

Im 62.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:28

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:27

Who will take over if they react?

I suppose it’s a way to get past the left / liberal coalition pdq

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Same way the got over the last one. Appoint a new leader.

The markets can’t go into meltdown over a new government. They have to take it on the chin as they’re stuck with them.

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:27

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:25

Like Truss you mean?

Who was responsible for rhe mess the current government are trying to repair?

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Who will take over if they react?

I suppose it’s a way to get past the left / liberal coalition pdq

FiveFoxes · 22/12/2025 11:26

The gap between Conservatives and Reform isn't closing.

Voting intention shows:
13 January 2025:
Labour: 26%
Reform: 24%
Conservatives: 22%

15 December 2025:
Reform: 27%
Labour: 18%
Conservatives: 17%

Reform support has increased by 3%.
Labour support has decreased by 8%.
Conservative support has decreased by 5%.

The gap between Labour and Reform was 2% in favour of Labour and is now 9% in favour of Reform.

The gap between Conservatives and Reform was 2% in favour of Reform and is now 10% in favour of Reform.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/voting-intention

Voting intention

If there were a general election held tomorrow, which party would you vote for?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/voting-intention

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:25

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:13

Good luck with that. You’d not last long with the markets.

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Like Truss you mean?

Who was responsible for rhe mess the current government are trying to repair?

ThisQuirkyHare · 22/12/2025 11:23

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:09

Then its civil war. You can see theres something brewing. And if the democratic system cant solve the issues, people look elsewhere.

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😂🤣😂🤣

Employers couldn't even get their employees to go back to the office after lockdown without a fight and you think people would go out to fight in a civil war!!

Idiots throwing rocks in the streets and terrorising migrants isn't a civil war. They're just idiots.

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:13

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:09

Because the liberal and left parties have more voters overall than Reform or Cons.

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Good luck with that. You’d not last long with the markets.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:12

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:09

Then its civil war. You can see theres something brewing. And if the democratic system cant solve the issues, people look elsewhere.

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Yeah civil war😂

So Reform voters get a mard on as the majority of the country don’t support them.

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 11:09

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:03

Time for Labour with their massive majority to change the voting system to PR.

That should keep Reform out.

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Then its civil war. You can see theres something brewing. And if the democratic system cant solve the issues, people look elsewhere.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:09

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:05

Why would it? You’d just end up with coalitions anyway.

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Because the liberal and left parties have more voters overall than Reform or Cons.

EasternStandard · 22/12/2025 11:05

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:03

Time for Labour with their massive majority to change the voting system to PR.

That should keep Reform out.

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Why would it? You’d just end up with coalitions anyway.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 22/12/2025 11:03

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 10:58

Got to be done. Otherwise we are heading for civil war.

The old system of government has failed. If it cant cope with this issue its not fit for purpose sadly.

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Time for Labour with their massive majority to change the voting system to PR.

That should keep Reform out.

Snowonground · 22/12/2025 10:58

Beentheredonethat98 · 22/12/2025 10:23

How exactly do you think they will do this?

Farage said he would have the small boats issue resolved within a fortnight of taking power. He then changed this to within a fortnight of having changed all the laws which make this difficult. Anyone with even the vaguest understanding of the UK political process knows this will be impossible within the lifetime of a parliament.

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Got to be done. Otherwise we are heading for civil war.

The old system of government has failed. If it cant cope with this issue its not fit for purpose sadly.