Conservatives closing the gap on reform

Totally different set of people.

Did you just block out the previous 14 years they were in? Austerity, university fees up massively (plus interest on the loans ), Brexit, Covid mishandling…

Prior to fear selling off of council houses without replacing, selling of utilities so everything costs more now, selling of water industry, transport…

I think Kemi is basically the second coming of Thatcher, which is essential with our enormous non-working population and ‘you can’t make me’ mindset.

Absolutely this

Yes the Telegraph poll puts the Conservatives ahead of Labour on 18.5%. Labour on 18%. Reform on 29.3%. I think they use the data from Yougov, Opinium and Savnta.

From the same article, a survey by Lord Ashcroft Polls put Labour in fourth place on 18 per cent of the vote – behind Reform (25 per cent), the Tories (22 per cent) and the Greens (19 per cent).

Makes sense.

Maybe ‘class’ isn’t needed there at the end.

Firstly are we really happy with creating an underclass of society that arent from here and that do the jobs "white" people wont? Is that really what our immigration policy is?

Secondly Labours employment reforms and tax together with AI will mean that soon UK citizens will be perfectly happy to do those jobs. Or go on benefits which is what Labour are encouraging people to do. Which is of course immoral. But that's Labour for you. No longer the party for the working class.

Have the Conservatives learned to listen to the masses? Tis the only way to win a GE in a democracy surely-if they have I’ll vote for them again.

YouGov voting intentions has Reform on 27%, Labour 18%, Tories 17%.

Very few polls show the gap closing, the poll that did, was commissioned by the Express.

Its sad when people admit to voting for 'anyone that keeps Reform/Labour etc out'.
It seems we are resigned to unspiring/incompetent/lacklustre politicians who do nothing to attract our vote. It"s more of a hold your nose, vote for the least worst option. I think that's why the attraction of Reform stays stubbornly high. They are the red emergency button, people don't care about their record, they just want a change from the same old parties forming the same old incompetent governments.

People in the U.K. won’t do the jobs that immigrants are doing.

If they would why’s there such a care sector shortage?

You are living in a very privileged bubble if you dont. We have an unprecedented situation at the moment. Vast immigration taking low paid jobs. And coming Ai which will transform white collar jobs and mean people will also want those low paid jobs. Don't bother studying law for example. The industry is going to contract.

The British arent all passive sheep. Some are.

Kemi is saying the right things to get back all the voters that defected away due to the hopeless Sunak who caused their vote to collapse. Once voters have forgotten about Sunak, a lot of the defected Tory voters will go back to vote Tory next time if their leader and manifesto are half way sensible, rather than Farage/Reform.

We dont have enough of an army to defend our country. There are more illegal young men who have come in than the whole headcount of the army. What if Russia attacks NATO? Who will be left defending us at home
I can easily see the shit hitting the fan. A lot of people detest this government and want an alternative. And if Labour gerrymander the election or cancel elections (ahem) then people will seek alternative methods to register their dissatisfaction.

No. Im angry and Im not a Reform voter.

There will be plenty of young people twiddling their thumbs looking for something to do and blame once Ai takes hold. And Labours employment policies.

Theres plenty of religious zeal. Just perhaps not the onr you are thinking of.

We've already got sectarian politics. 5 MPs supporting another country for religious reasons. Interesting to see how many more will be elected in 2029.

The study of military history is the development of weapons, tactics and manoeuvres. Plus the armed forces.

That is not the study of what causes, develops and resolves war. Which is what you were taking about. Civil war is hardly military.

Clue is in the title: civil war

Socio-economic and political factors lead to war. But it's ultimately armed conflict that turns it into war.

'War is the extension of politics by other means' Von Clausewitz

Redundant question. The answer is in the post you quoted.

It’s not even military history.

Its political and social.

I very much doubt there’ll be a civil war. There was one in Northern Ireland for 40 years and nobody gave a shit about that. Who would be fighting whom?

Oh I don't know maybe nearly two decades in the military and multiple deployments involving real wars. That and studying military history for a good portion of that.

You are living in a very privileged bubble if you think lack of jobs and economic challenges are enough to make people angry enough to fight and risk their lives and their families. Civil disorder at best.

You are listening to hyperbole that is generated from a very insular view of the world.

You mean plenty of Reform voters?

They reacted to Reeves tears and a story on her being sidelined. Yes it’s entirely possible a whole Gov filled with politicians to the left will cause a meltdown or whatever you need to call it.

Basically a reaction to the pound and borrowing costs that would require a change of leadership and maybe party.

Markets don’t care whether it’s day 1 or day 200 they’re looking at potential policies.

I’ll vote for whoever keeps Reform out. In my area that’s Conservative. We have a good and very proactive MP here.

However I don’t like Kemi, or any idiot saying publicly (as Kemi has) that you get Motability for ADHD. That’s bollocks and even worse is that she knows it’s bollocks but said it anyway….it placed her in the “nasty bitch” category of female politicians . I have a separate list for utter dicks (Farage)