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Rachel Reeves - potential successor?

214 replies

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 16:27

Apparently, the Tories have launched a petition www.sackreeves.com urging the PM to sack the Chancellor, after she was accused of misleading the public over the state of the UK’s finances.

If she is sacked, who could/should replace her?

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redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:30

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:10

The Tories have stated policies - they are evidently on their website.

Posters ‘earn a wage by posting’? Really? I have not seen that.

If you are so politically informed what are these policies? Or Reform policies?

Lou7171 · 29/11/2025 18:27

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:10

The Tories have stated policies - they are evidently on their website.

Posters ‘earn a wage by posting’? Really? I have not seen that.

Yes they do earn money. New 'transparency features' have exposed this (not specifically on this site, but I doubt MN is immune!).

Posters operate overseas (usually from the global south) and make money by posting right wing content, specifically targeting the people of the UK and US. Apparently, it has something to do with the fact we're very politically illiterate! I'm not sure how they make money from it though, but they do.

twistyizzy · 29/11/2025 18:27

Sesma · 29/11/2025 16:46

There is someone called Torsten in the wings

He is more than "in the wings" at this point. RR is merely a figurehead. This budget was a Resolution Foundation budget that she merely delivered.

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:26

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:05

'SackReeves.com' is that all the Conservatives have got..how about some real suggestions as to how they might fund the NHS, Defence and bring children out of poverty...Also so much poorly informed posting on MN just a lot of 'opinion', bits of information from twitter..and labour bashing (inter -dispersed with posters who earn a wage by posting this stuff).

Are you happy she fabricated figures to raise taxes? That is ok with you?

It matters not one bit where she is spending the money - "raising children out of poverty". It doesn't matter, she fabricated a situation to get that money. That is 100% wrong.

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:25

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:24

In any other arena, or business, you would be fired immediately if you had lied to such an extent

I cannot imagine a scenario when I was presenting to clients (us, the citizens in this case) and I completely fabricated figures to get a deal through where I would not be dismissed immediately

Absolutely the same in my sector - finance.

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hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:24

In any other arena, or business, you would be fired immediately if you had lied to such an extent

I cannot imagine a scenario when I was presenting to clients (us, the citizens in this case) and I completely fabricated figures to get a deal through where I would not be dismissed immediately

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:22

YellowCherry · 29/11/2025 16:31

The Tories don't get to decide this. I think she should stay - she has a background in economics, which is more than many other potential candidates.

You do know what "her background in economics" actually entailed?

She literally lied on her cv / LinkedIn profile - she was in customer complaints.

She has about as much experience as my DS23 - well actually he has more because he has an economic degree and real life work experience already.

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:11

MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 18:09

Despite what the chancellor’s supporters on MN believe, this is quite a serious matter, sanctioned by the government. So it wasn’t just Rachel Reeves.

Serious enough for the OBR to expose them!

Will she take the hit? With this government I doubt it.

Agreed.

How much more deceit must the electorate be forced to take?

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:10

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:05

'SackReeves.com' is that all the Conservatives have got..how about some real suggestions as to how they might fund the NHS, Defence and bring children out of poverty...Also so much poorly informed posting on MN just a lot of 'opinion', bits of information from twitter..and labour bashing (inter -dispersed with posters who earn a wage by posting this stuff).

The Tories have stated policies - they are evidently on their website.

Posters ‘earn a wage by posting’? Really? I have not seen that.

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MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 18:09

Despite what the chancellor’s supporters on MN believe, this is quite a serious matter, sanctioned by the government. So it wasn’t just Rachel Reeves.

Serious enough for the OBR to expose them!

Will she take the hit? With this government I doubt it.

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:05

'SackReeves.com' is that all the Conservatives have got..how about some real suggestions as to how they might fund the NHS, Defence and bring children out of poverty...Also so much poorly informed posting on MN just a lot of 'opinion', bits of information from twitter..and labour bashing (inter -dispersed with posters who earn a wage by posting this stuff).

LlynTegid · 29/11/2025 18:04

I don't think there will be a vacancy for a while. Other than his or her constituents and political nerds, I doubt that whoever ends up as Chancellor will be well known to many people. John Major was not when he became Chancellor, neither was Alistair Darling, or indeed Rishi Sunak.

Bromptotoo · 29/11/2025 17:59

safetyfreak · 29/11/2025 16:49

I have never been anti-Rachel however, I am now because of the OBR leak. There was no black hole to fill; she raised our taxes to fund the cut of the 2-child tax benefit and the minimum wage.

Can you spell out the rationale/arithmetic there?

The taxpayer is on the hook for scrapping the two child limit and rightly so as it was never justified and was political theatre from Osborne.

The min wage isn't paid by the government except for its own employees/contractors.

GeneralPeter · 29/11/2025 17:51

safetyfreak · 29/11/2025 16:49

I have never been anti-Rachel however, I am now because of the OBR leak. There was no black hole to fill; she raised our taxes to fund the cut of the 2-child tax benefit and the minimum wage.

I agree. I was pretty dismal
about Reeves but I assumed she had been caught by her initial over-promising and then trapped by her back-benchers.

Lying about the OBR position to justify her choices on something as material as this, makes me reevaluate entirely.

She wasn’t caught in a lie by a surprise interview question, it was the core justification for a major announcement she made of her own will on TV and to parliament. And it was false.

To me that crosses a line into resignation territory.

Also, talking about the shrinking headroom and the black hole and tough choices on tax has itself caused economic damage. Causing economic damage by being truthfully negative is one thing (still unwise for a chancellor), to do it on a falsehood is wilful economic vandalism.

ThisQuirkyHare · 29/11/2025 17:39

if she has a background in economics, she needs to get a refund from whatever university she studied at. Either that or they are hanging their heads in shame.

She's an utter disgrace and no amount of whatabboutery regarding what the Tories did or didn't do diminishes that fact.

From a UK investment perspective on the world stage, she is causing the country irreparable harm the longer she stays.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 29/11/2025 17:35

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 17:15

Yours a small minority then, even those on benefits are starting ro express concern, that the money they are being given is from average working peiple who now can’t afford food or heating.

Are they? I’m on full PIP. I feel sorry for them, but feel sorry for me too,

Ive paid enough tax to receive this. I’m not expressing any concern. My concern is about greedy employers paying shit wages. Maybe they should step up to reduce the benefits burden?

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 17:34

Crikeyalmighty · 29/11/2025 17:20

Ah this would be the Tory’s who allowed substantial unchecked lending during covid to company’s that hadn’t been in business for several years, totally faked turnover ( which everyone and his mother can see on companies house site) many of which went into very quick liquidation having sucked the cash out- including onessunakswife had involvement with - did no due diligence on company’s supplying PPE, paid substantial amounts to Johnson’s knock offs for a bit of random consultancy, lied about various get togethers during covid, and to be frank didn’t have the caps in for years and years.

and Unite? They hate anyone who isn’t one of their ‘are you with us brothers’ mentality -anyone who actually has a bit of commercial acumen and is a fiscal realist - personally would serve them right if they brought Wes streeting in who isn’t the most likeable person but I think is rather capable, a good communicator and would think bollocks to them .I don’t agree with everything they have done and personally I wouldn’t have lifted that benefits cap but for the Tory’s to try and present themselves as more fiscally responsible is laughable - they have cost the country£400bn on Brexit for a start by even having a referendum and decimated GDP by 6 to 8% and effectively ended the Dublin agreement on right to return of non permitted asylum seekers by default . Most of the big issues were caused by them going right back to the 80s - be it selling off social housing or utilities. They have some cheek -

This is so typical of the hard core Labour supporter. No matter how bad it gets. Blame the tories.

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 17:32

tobee · 29/11/2025 17:11

I'm happy enough

Sadly, many are not - they have been adversely impacted by Reeves’s policies (or will be).

Including many ‘working people’ - whatever that does/does not mean, currently.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 17:30

Graciously · 29/11/2025 17:18

I don’t think she has any hand in it. She’s just a figurehead for the team behind it

Does that absolve her of any responsibility, then?

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FordsTowel · 29/11/2025 17:23

I'm not sure who would, or Indeed should, replace her... but both her and Starmer are well overdue being sacked. It's pretty impressive to have managed to form a government even worse than the Tories!

Crikeyalmighty · 29/11/2025 17:20

Ah this would be the Tory’s who allowed substantial unchecked lending during covid to company’s that hadn’t been in business for several years, totally faked turnover ( which everyone and his mother can see on companies house site) many of which went into very quick liquidation having sucked the cash out- including onessunakswife had involvement with - did no due diligence on company’s supplying PPE, paid substantial amounts to Johnson’s knock offs for a bit of random consultancy, lied about various get togethers during covid, and to be frank didn’t have the caps in for years and years.

and Unite? They hate anyone who isn’t one of their ‘are you with us brothers’ mentality -anyone who actually has a bit of commercial acumen and is a fiscal realist - personally would serve them right if they brought Wes streeting in who isn’t the most likeable person but I think is rather capable, a good communicator and would think bollocks to them .I don’t agree with everything they have done and personally I wouldn’t have lifted that benefits cap but for the Tory’s to try and present themselves as more fiscally responsible is laughable - they have cost the country£400bn on Brexit for a start by even having a referendum and decimated GDP by 6 to 8% and effectively ended the Dublin agreement on right to return of non permitted asylum seekers by default . Most of the big issues were caused by them going right back to the 80s - be it selling off social housing or utilities. They have some cheek -

Puppylucky · 29/11/2025 17:18

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 17:05

I am not familiar with who in the Labour Party has the requisite experience, hence my question - I am aware that Torsten Bell was apparently one of the architects of the budget.

Who do you think should replace Reeves, and why?

You obviously aren't remotely familiar with British politics as Mel Stride ( Conservative) and Richard Tice (Reform) aren't even in the Labour party!

Graciously · 29/11/2025 17:18

I don’t think she has any hand in it. She’s just a figurehead for the team behind it

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 17:15

tobee · 29/11/2025 17:11

I'm happy enough

Yours a small minority then, even those on benefits are starting ro express concern, that the money they are being given is from average working peiple who now can’t afford food or heating.

MrsPrendergast · 29/11/2025 17:15

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 16:54

The lying about the black hole is one of the worst lies I’ve seen and that’s saying something, but I really beleive she didn’t act alone, starmer needs to go with her and the back benches who were complicit.

it’s utterly appalling to say there is a deficit and she needs to tax the arse off the working person when she knew it wasn’t the case, it was the opposite as she anted to give 15 billion more in welfare.

i honestly think Charles needs to step in now; even unite has said enough and the lead for that is one of the biggest lefties there is. When unite say they lied, and are penalising the average working person to give the money out in benefits you know we are now in the 7th circle of hell.

Oh don't be ridiculous. The King's not going to step in. Flipping heck. Read some history !

Of course Unite isn't going to support a generally right leaning Labour party. Unite is generally left leaning although it does have hard left elements too. Why would Unite support Reeves? Read some politics!