Page 7 | Rachel Reeves - potential successor?

luckylavender · 29/11/2025 19:01

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:41

Boris is gone, and has nothing to do with this (although he did actually resign over a piece of cake if you remember?)

See if you can answer the question - are you happy that even though it’s clear RR raised taxes by lying, she’s still good for the job?

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Oh Lord the piece of cake lie. He resigned because all of his Cabinet refused to serve.

twistyizzy · 29/11/2025 19:00

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:55

I do wonder when the obsession with the previous Tory government, and Reform, will end.

It’s a focus on the perceived negatives of the opposition, rather than the Labour positives - you rarely hear about the latter anymore, ahem.

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It's all whataboutery and deflection. Labour leadership do it and all their comms is "what about the Tories/Reform" so it's obvious their minions will copy.
To a certain extent its expected with any new administration but we are now 17 months in to the Labour regime, they really need to start taking ownership and responsibility for the current fuckcluster

orangewasp · 29/11/2025 18:58

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 16:27

Apparently, the Tories have launched a petition www.sackreeves.com urging the PM to sack the Chancellor, after she was accused of misleading the public over the state of the UK’s finances.

If she is sacked, who could/should replace her?

Regardless of what you think of Reeves, after years of their disasters and much worse lying, the Tories have got an absolute fucking cheek to do this

xanthomelana · 29/11/2025 18:57

luckylavender · 29/11/2025 18:47

Well that’s a shame. In a democracy you have to take what the public serves up. They have a big majority & have currently served 16 months out of 5 years. Those of us who are left leaning have suffered for the past 14 years. Suck it up.

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They have a big majority because they lied in their manifesto. I was glad to see Beth Rigby call Starmer out over this but he still can’t admit it even though she interviewed him before the election and they promised not to put up taxes. Name me one thing the public can trust this government with? It’s just lie after lie and if we had an election now I doubt they’d even come second.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:55

twistyizzy · 29/11/2025 18:50

In case you hadn't noticed though, the Tories aren't in power any more. Labour are.
Tories rightly lost the last election.
This is all on Labour

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I do wonder when the obsession with the previous Tory government, and Reform, will end.

It’s a focus on the perceived negatives of the opposition, rather than the Labour positives - you rarely hear about the latter anymore, ahem.

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EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 18:54

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:50

Asking the growing number of people adversely impacted by Reeves’s policies to ‘suck it up’ is pretty offensive.

Your values, my values.

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How are people feeling that immune?

twistyizzy · 29/11/2025 18:50

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:43

I have an idea! Lets discuss all the dodgy Chancellors we had under the Conservative government.

In case you hadn't noticed though, the Tories aren't in power any more. Labour are.
Tories rightly lost the last election.
This is all on Labour

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:50

luckylavender · 29/11/2025 18:47

Well that’s a shame. In a democracy you have to take what the public serves up. They have a big majority & have currently served 16 months out of 5 years. Those of us who are left leaning have suffered for the past 14 years. Suck it up.

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Asking the growing number of people adversely impacted by Reeves’s policies to ‘suck it up’ is pretty offensive.

Your values, my values.

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EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 18:49

luckylavender · 29/11/2025 18:47

Well that’s a shame. In a democracy you have to take what the public serves up. They have a big majority & have currently served 16 months out of 5 years. Those of us who are left leaning have suffered for the past 14 years. Suck it up.

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Surely they’d rather not piss everyone off so they get only one term.

And local elections don’t tank to the point leaders are feeling ready to be ousted.

You might feel great with that but Labour will be out for a while if they stick to this or get worse.

MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 18:49

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:43

I have an idea! Lets discuss all the dodgy Chancellors we had under the Conservative government.

Go for it! You should start a new thread.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:48

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:43

I have an idea! Lets discuss all the dodgy Chancellors we had under the Conservative government.

Feel free to start a thread for that.

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luckylavender · 29/11/2025 18:47

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 17:32

Sadly, many are not - they have been adversely impacted by Reeves’s policies (or will be).

Including many ‘working people’ - whatever that does/does not mean, currently.

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Well that’s a shame. In a democracy you have to take what the public serves up. They have a big majority & have currently served 16 months out of 5 years. Those of us who are left leaning have suffered for the past 14 years. Suck it up.

ThisQuirkyHare · 29/11/2025 18:46

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:43

I have an idea! Lets discuss all the dodgy Chancellors we had under the Conservative government.

Time we raised our bar then, starting with this one.

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:43

I have an idea! Lets discuss all the dodgy Chancellors we had under the Conservative government.

luckylavender · 29/11/2025 18:42

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 16:54

The lying about the black hole is one of the worst lies I’ve seen and that’s saying something, but I really beleive she didn’t act alone, starmer needs to go with her and the back benches who were complicit.

it’s utterly appalling to say there is a deficit and she needs to tax the arse off the working person when she knew it wasn’t the case, it was the opposite as she anted to give 15 billion more in welfare.

i honestly think Charles needs to step in now; even unite has said enough and the lead for that is one of the biggest lefties there is. When unite say they lied, and are penalising the average working person to give the money out in benefits you know we are now in the 7th circle of hell.

Unite always argues with Labour. It’s not an easy relationship.

MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 18:41

@hamstersarse, yes we need to move on from this “well the tories did worse”.

@redwinecheeseandothersnacks, in this present time, our current government have been exposed in a lie. Let’s discuss this!

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:41

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:38

You mean like we had under Boris Johnson?

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Boris is gone, and has nothing to do with this (although he did actually resign over a piece of cake if you remember?)

See if you can answer the question - are you happy that even though it’s clear RR raised taxes by lying, she’s still good for the job?

luckylavender · 29/11/2025 18:40

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 16:27

Apparently, the Tories have launched a petition www.sackreeves.com urging the PM to sack the Chancellor, after she was accused of misleading the public over the state of the UK’s finances.

If she is sacked, who could/should replace her?

How did politics come to this & why are you following like a sheep? The Tories need to take a long look at themselves & why we’re in this mess. Kemi served in government so she cannot absolve herself of blame.

EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 18:38

tobee · 29/11/2025 17:11

I'm happy enough

Why? There’s not many left who are, maybe a few public sector or ex that.

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:38

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:34

@redwinecheeseandothersnacks

At this point right now, it doesn’t really matter what the policies are of other parties.
It’s really a matter of whether you are ok with having a repeated provable liar of quite extraordinary levels in charge of the country’s finances. Are you?

You mean like we had under Boris Johnson?

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:37

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:34

@redwinecheeseandothersnacks

At this point right now, it doesn’t really matter what the policies are of other parties.
It’s really a matter of whether you are ok with having a repeated provable liar of quite extraordinary levels in charge of the country’s finances. Are you?

Well said.

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EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 18:37

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 17:34

This is so typical of the hard core Labour supporter. No matter how bad it gets. Blame the tories.

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Yep

hamstersarse · 29/11/2025 18:34

@redwinecheeseandothersnacks

At this point right now, it doesn’t really matter what the policies are of other parties.
It’s really a matter of whether you are ok with having a repeated provable liar of quite extraordinary levels in charge of the country’s finances. Are you?

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:33

Lou7171 · 29/11/2025 18:27

Yes they do earn money. New 'transparency features' have exposed this (not specifically on this site, but I doubt MN is immune!).

Posters operate overseas (usually from the global south) and make money by posting right wing content, specifically targeting the people of the UK and US. Apparently, it has something to do with the fact we're very politically illiterate! I'm not sure how they make money from it though, but they do.

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Interesting.

I just wondered how you would know, for certain.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 18:32

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 29/11/2025 18:30

If you are so politically informed what are these policies? Or Reform policies?

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Reform? No idea - why the obsession with Reform?
As to Tories policies, would you like me to send you the link?

And…..back to the thread topic. What’s your view?

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