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Rachel Reeves - potential successor?

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 16:27

Apparently, the Tories have launched a petition www.sackreeves.com urging the PM to sack the Chancellor, after she was accused of misleading the public over the state of the UK’s finances.

If she is sacked, who could/should replace her?

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TomPettysBrokenHeart · 29/11/2025 22:14

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 21:56

Funny you say that, because look how Labour shifted their position on immigration, under pressure from Reform, the Tories, and public opinion.

I will put good money on the same thing happening on welfare, too.

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I thought the thread was about whether Reeves will be replaced rather than policy decisions? The Tories have no sway over whether Reeves stays. Neither does the not-so-fragrant Farage.

Did Badenoch sign the petition?

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 22:14

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 22:09

Amber Rudd (Con.) and ‘there is no magic money tree’ was equally an egregious lie. She was also equally pushing gender woo ideology.

Isn’t the real issue how do we prevent Reform taking over without having to ‘tactically’ vote for liars and lunatics?

It’s a bloody awful situation.

Labour won the GE because of voter disenfranchisement with the Tories (after 14 years).

Reform are polling to win the next GE because of voter disenfranchisement with Labour (after 16 months, actually prior).

Labour and their voters will only have themselves to blame for a Reform Govt.

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MrsZiggywinkle · 29/11/2025 22:13

Because the Tories did such a great job, didn’t they?

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 22:09

Amber Rudd (Con.) and ‘there is no magic money tree’ was equally an egregious lie. She was also equally pushing gender woo ideology.

Isn’t the real issue how do we prevent Reform taking over without having to ‘tactically’ vote for liars and lunatics?

It’s a bloody awful situation.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 22:03

coolmum123 · 29/11/2025 22:01

This. It’s outrageous- is anyone going to believe her next time she says there is a black hole? She needs to go and Starner signed off on this also knowing that it was a lie

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Yes, Starmer has now been implicated, which escalates matters.

Starmer will not hesitate to throw Reeves under the bus.

Odds of Reeves going next week? They must have just shortened.

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coolmum123 · 29/11/2025 22:01

TheRealGoose · 29/11/2025 16:54

The lying about the black hole is one of the worst lies I’ve seen and that’s saying something, but I really beleive she didn’t act alone, starmer needs to go with her and the back benches who were complicit.

it’s utterly appalling to say there is a deficit and she needs to tax the arse off the working person when she knew it wasn’t the case, it was the opposite as she anted to give 15 billion more in welfare.

i honestly think Charles needs to step in now; even unite has said enough and the lead for that is one of the biggest lefties there is. When unite say they lied, and are penalising the average working person to give the money out in benefits you know we are now in the 7th circle of hell.

This. It’s outrageous- is anyone going to believe her next time she says there is a black hole? She needs to go and Starner signed off on this also knowing that it was a lie

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 21:56

TomPettysBrokenHeart · 29/11/2025 21:52

The Tories can set up as many petitions as they like. They don't have a say.

Funny you say that, because look how Labour shifted their position on immigration, under pressure from Reform, the Tories, and public opinion.

I will put good money on the same thing happening on welfare, too.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 21:54

MayaPinion · 29/11/2025 21:51

She’s doing a good enough job to rattle your cage.

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What an utterly juvenile comment.

Disrespectful to those who are suffering real consequences, too.

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TomPettysBrokenHeart · 29/11/2025 21:52

The Tories can set up as many petitions as they like. They don't have a say.

MayaPinion · 29/11/2025 21:51

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 17:07

You believe that she is doing a great job then?

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She’s doing a good enough job to rattle your cage.

MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 20:59

@GroundZero, they are so traumatised by the past 14 years, they have to believe, like disciple's, that Labour will deliver.

They are blinded and blinkered! This government is lying. No growth, no investment, low expectation and aspiration.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:51

dottiehens · 29/11/2025 20:48

OMG 😦 really is infuriating.

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It is.

I am genuinely perplexed that some posters appear unable or unwilling to accept Labour’s duplicity.

When will the penny drop? What will it take?

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dottiehens · 29/11/2025 20:48

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:03

Ok, putting aside Reeves’s mendacity and questionable competence, and addressing her pandering to the back benches.

A family with three children that has at least one parent claiming the average rates of Universal Credit (UC), combined with other benefits, will receive up to £46,000 by next year, according to the Centre for Social Justice (CSJ).

That compares with the £28,000 take-home earnings of a family where one adult is working full-time, and another part-time, on the national living wage.

Let that sink in.

This is why many - genuinely working - people, are apoplectic.

OMG 😦 really is infuriating.

dottiehens · 29/11/2025 20:45

tobee · 29/11/2025 17:11

I'm happy enough

You are happy that she/ they lie? Do you think that is acceptable but we’re happy to criticise the Tories when they did?

MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 20:42

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:40

McFadden would be the obvious choice.

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Absolutely!

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:40

MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 20:38

Who would you put forward as “a left winger” though?

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McFadden would be the obvious choice.

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MNLurker1345 · 29/11/2025 20:38

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:29

It’s a Hobson’s Choice for Starmer - he will be compelled to put in a left winger in an attempt to placate the back benches, further alienating the electorate in the process.

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Who would you put forward as “a left winger” though?

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 20:37

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:33

Well, you could vote tactically at the next GE.

It’s how Labour got in, after all.

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I’ve already said I’d consider it in a reply to you, to (try to) keep out Reform.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:33

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 20:31

No.

And see above ^^ I’m politically homeless.

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Well, you could vote tactically at the next GE.

It’s how Labour got in, after all.

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Vitriolinsanity · 29/11/2025 20:32

Elmo!

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:31

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 20:28

Labour were absolute wusses over the EU referendum and Brexit but they were not in government. The Conservatives were and are responsible for Brexit.

Brexit has affected all of us, significantly. As has the infiltration of British institutions by gender identity ideology.

I’ll not be voting for Labour, haven’t for many years, have never voted Conservative, and would only ever contemplate voting for either as a tactical vote to keep out a Reform candidate in a general election. I am politically homeless.

A petition against a democratically elected and appointed cabinet minister, though? Who the fuck do the Conservatives think they are? The Oxford Union?

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To answer your question, given Reeves lied during campaigning, and has lied subsequently - numerous times, I think the outrage against the Tories, faux or otherwise, is no longer applicable.

That train has long left the station.

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EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 20:31

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:29

It’s a Hobson’s Choice for Starmer - he will be compelled to put in a left winger in an attempt to placate the back benches, further alienating the electorate in the process.

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Yes I think his brief was save my leadership. Bell was chosen for backbenchers. That’s not going to work with voters and you can see it with this budget.

TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 20:31

EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 20:11

Are you immune to Labour’s impact? Why?

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No.

And see above ^^ I’m politically homeless.

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GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:29

EasternStandard · 29/11/2025 20:16

Sure same thing. His policies won’t get the electorate onside. They haven’t this time with his involvement.

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It’s a Hobson’s Choice for Starmer - he will be compelled to put in a left winger in an attempt to placate the back benches, further alienating the electorate in the process.

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TheAutumnCrow · 29/11/2025 20:28

GroundZero · 29/11/2025 20:09

@TheAutumnCrow

What was Labour’s voting record during that period?

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Labour were absolute wusses over the EU referendum and Brexit but they were not in government. The Conservatives were and are responsible for Brexit.

Brexit has affected all of us, significantly. As has the infiltration of British institutions by gender identity ideology.

I’ll not be voting for Labour, haven’t for many years, have never voted Conservative, and would only ever contemplate voting for either as a tactical vote to keep out a Reform candidate in a general election. I am politically homeless.

A petition against a democratically elected and appointed cabinet minister, though? Who the fuck do the Conservatives think they are? The Oxford Union?