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Why do the very same British leftists who claim that Britain needs to be in the EU as it is too small to go it alone want to constantly further diminish Britain’s power by giving up Chagos and other territories?

60 replies

boltj · 17/11/2025 05:05

These people hate their country so much. Why would you want to make it weak by giving up land when no other country would willingly give up territories for “feelgood” reasons then complain you need to be in the EU as you’re now too weak?

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MissCharlotteLutterell · 17/11/2025 08:48

Leavesfalling · 17/11/2025 08:35

The Chagos deal can be a duff deal entirely on it's own . I'm more concerned about the £30billion we are paying for the privilege of giving away our own territory and that the Maruritians (ally of China) are now able to lower their own income tax based on a (potential) rise of ours and our children's.

Pathetic Labour strikes again.

Labour signed the deal due to timing but it was negotiated by the previous Conservative government.

I don't know enough about it to know whether it was good, bad or indifferent, but you clearly know even less than I do if you don't even know how it came into existence.

CrispShirt · 17/11/2025 08:42

Dodonutty · 17/11/2025 08:33

They are practising debating skills for a hypothetical degree course

Snort.

CrispShirt · 17/11/2025 08:42

BishyBarnyBee · 17/11/2025 08:27

Are you the "Why can't we go back to Victorian times when Britain ruled the world" poster? Because you kind of got your arse handed to you on a plate on that thread. Most reasonable people, left or right, recognise that holding onto a handful of territories nowhere near Britain makes no geographic or political sense and in no way increases our standing in world affairs.

Yes, I thought I recognised the tone.

Boy, are they going to get a shock at university when they discover that a history degree doesn’t involve mourning the end of British world domination in every essay.

itsthetea · 17/11/2025 08:38

Theft isn’t right

trying to defend theft seems very odd

are they paying compensation then?

do you think victims should not be compensated?

Leavesfalling · 17/11/2025 08:35

The Chagos deal can be a duff deal entirely on it's own . I'm more concerned about the £30billion we are paying for the privilege of giving away our own territory and that the Maruritians (ally of China) are now able to lower their own income tax based on a (potential) rise of ours and our children's.

Pathetic Labour strikes again.

Dodonutty · 17/11/2025 08:33

They are practising debating skills for a hypothetical degree course

BishyBarnyBee · 17/11/2025 08:27

boltj · 17/11/2025 05:05

These people hate their country so much. Why would you want to make it weak by giving up land when no other country would willingly give up territories for “feelgood” reasons then complain you need to be in the EU as you’re now too weak?

Are you the "Why can't we go back to Victorian times when Britain ruled the world" poster? Because you kind of got your arse handed to you on a plate on that thread. Most reasonable people, left or right, recognise that holding onto a handful of territories nowhere near Britain makes no geographic or political sense and in no way increases our standing in world affairs.

itsthetea · 17/11/2025 08:23

Your idea of being strong is to act dishonourably ?

And to force nations - I am guessing taken against their will - to stay part of Britain

where is your pride in being British ? Your British values of fair play? Of acting with honour ? You want Britain to return to thuggish behaviour? That’s not my Britain

Dodonutty · 17/11/2025 08:10

You really need to broaden your understanding of current affairs if you are going to thrive at your eventual university. How are the applications going this year?

We don't hate our country. We are disappointed to see the rise of the likes of Farage and Jenrick and the inability of some (like you) to accept that people can have different views & a healthy debate without using words like hate. Quite sad views really.

Walkden · 17/11/2025 05:13

You don't have to be a leftist to recognise that Britain historically thrived on trade but by leaving EU we have made trade with our nearest neighbours more difficult and harmed our economy, and continues to do so on an ongoing basis.

We also used to attract investment as the low regulation / employment rights gateway to the European market and that has largely stopped. Now companies that invest do so to access the UK market only.

Not sure what chagos has to do with this. I believe that the conservatives did most of the negotiation / groundwork.